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CarGuru > Formula-1 > If Renault/Alonso keep this up.... 7 April 2005 10:46:34

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If Renault/Alonso keep this up....

David W. 4 April 2005 05:54:52
 .will people hate on them the way they do on Ferrari/Schumacher?­

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CFster 4 April 2005 06:27:33 permanent link ]
 
"David W." <NetZeroWard@webtv.­net> wrote in message
news:3987-42509E6C-­34@storefull-3336.ba­y.webtv.net...> .will people hate on them the way they do on Ferrari/Schumacher?­

No because Renault/Alonso does it fairly.

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Tussock 4 April 2005 07:14:21 permanent link ]
 David W. wrote:> ..will people hate on them the way they do on Ferrari/Schumacher?­

Depends on how much more "bad luck" Fisi has I'd reckon, plus
weather McLaren can sort out their qualifying, and if Toyota can close
that last little bit.
Plus, you know who still looks kinda quick.

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Vile Merchant 4 April 2005 08:07:35 permanent link ]
 
"David W." <NetZeroWard@webtv.­net> wrote in message
news:3987-42509E6C-­34@storefull-3336.ba­y.webtv.net...> .will people hate on them the way they do on Ferrari/Schumacher?­

I would rather any other driver on the grid win the championship than Alonso
:\


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Falcon Freak 4 April 2005 14:37:06 permanent link ]
 
"Vile Merchant" <nospam@f1.com> wrote in message
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"David W." <NetZeroWard@webtv.­net> wrote in message> news:3987-42509E6C-­34@storefull-3336.ba­y.webtv.net...>> .will people hate on them the way they do on Ferrari/Schumacher?­>
I would rather any other driver on the grid win the championship than > Alonso> :\>

The Alonso hate mongers have started already!

FF


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Bigbird 4 April 2005 16:06:47 permanent link ]
 
"Alexandre" <totaltrek2000@yaho­o.com> wrote in message
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Falcon Freak wrote:>> "Vile Merchant" <nospam@f1.com> wrote in message>> news:4250bd59$1_2@n­ews.melbourne.pipene­tworks.com...>> >
"David W." <NetZeroWard@webtv.­net> wrote in message>> > news:3987-42509E6C-­34@storefull-3336.ba­y.webtv.net...>> >> .will people hate on them the way they do on Ferrari/Schumacher?­>> >
I would rather any other driver on the grid win the championship> than>> > Alonso>> > :\>> >
The Alonso hate mongers have started already!>>
That's a good sign. That means they fear him already at age 23.> Certainly Alonso has got a bright future in front of him. Schumi's> records could last very little.>

Surely the (s)tifosi cannot be worried about that they have been swearing
blind for years that the rules have been changed to prevent domination.


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FooAtari 4 April 2005 16:11:14 permanent link ]
 "Vile Merchant" <nospam@f1.com> wrote in
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"David W." <NetZeroWard@webtv.­net> wrote in message> news:3987-42509E6C-­34@storefull-3336.ba­y.webtv.net...>> .will people hate on them the way they do on Ferrari/Schumacher?­>
I would rather any other driver on the grid win the championship than> Alonso >:\>

I think Alonso deserves it, he has made his up the grid from Minardi.

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Von Fourche 4 April 2005 21:42:02 permanent link ]
 
"David W." <NetZeroWard@webtv.­net> wrote in message
news:3987-42509E6C-­34@storefull-3336.ba­y.webtv.net...> .will people hate on them the way they do on Ferrari/Schumacher?­>


Well, if the championship goes down to the last race of the season and
Alonso slams into his opponet and wins the championship like Schumacher,
then why not hate him?


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Iain Miller 4 April 2005 23:11:25 permanent link ]
 
"David W." <NetZeroWard@webtv.­net> wrote in message
news:3987-42509E6C-­34@storefull-3336.ba­y.webtv.net...> .will people hate on them the way they do on Ferrari/Schumacher?­

Unlikely, seems like a nice bloke, doesn't whine, drives well & keeps it
clean on the track.

Good luck to him

I.


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Ben Thomas 5 April 2005 02:10:07 permanent link ]
 David W. wrote:> .will people hate on them the way they do on Ferrari/Schumacher?­>

For how long? If it's only one season, I doubt he'll be hated, except by MSC fans.

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Mk IV 5 April 2005 02:39:20 permanent link ]
 David W. <NetZeroWard@webtv.­net> scribbled:
.will people hate on them the way they do on Ferrari/Schumacher?­

People hate Ferrari?

Gee, where the hell are they getting all their money from?



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Bigbird 5 April 2005 04:19:03 permanent link ]
 
"MK IV" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:h6KdnYxazMySX8­zfRVn-oA@igs.net...>­ David W. <NetZeroWard@webtv.­net> scribbled:>
.will people hate on them the way they do on Ferrari/Schumacher?­>
People hate Ferrari?>
Gee, where the hell are they getting all their money from?>
Fiat pension fund?


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Dave R knows who 5 April 2005 18:36:45 permanent link ]
 
"Vile Merchant" <nospam@f1.com> wrote in message
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"David W." <NetZeroWard@webtv.­net> wrote in message> news:3987-42509E6C-­34@storefull-3336.ba­y.webtv.net...>> .will people hate on them the way they do on Ferrari/Schumacher?­>
I would rather any other driver on the grid win the championship than > Alonso> :\

It does sting me that others, including Fisico, have been waiting for so
long to get with the right team at the right time and the youngest kid comes
in and wins it in only his second year trying. However this is no ordinary
kid, obviously.


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Dave R knows who 5 April 2005 18:38:19 permanent link ]
 
"FooAtari" <alistair_fraser81R­EMOVE@THISyahoo.co.u­k> wrote in message
news:Xns962E86227DD­3Calistairfraser81RE­MO@194.106.32.13...>­ "Vile Merchant" <nospam@f1.com> wrote in> news:4250bd59$1_2@n­ews.melbourne.pipene­tworks.com:>
"David W." <NetZeroWard@webtv.­net> wrote in message>> news:3987-42509E6C-­34@storefull-3336.ba­y.webtv.net...>>> .will people hate on them the way they do on Ferrari/Schumacher?­>>
I would rather any other driver on the grid win the championship than>> Alonso>>:\>>
I think Alonso deserves it, he has made his up the grid from Minardi.

Many have. I don't have the list but I think over the weekend Speedtv
counted five on the grid today, IIRC.


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Geoff May 5 April 2005 19:15:55 permanent link ]
 Dave R knows who wrote:> "FooAtari" <alistair_fraser81R­EMOVE@THISyahoo.co.u­k> wrote in message > news:Xns962E86227DD­3Calistairfraser81RE­MO@194.106.32.13...>­
"Vile Merchant" <nospam@f1.com> wrote in>>news:4250bd59$1­_2@news.melbourne.pi­penetworks.com:>>
"David W." <NetZeroWard@webtv.­net> wrote in message>>>news:3987­-42509E6C-34@storefu­ll-3336.bay.webtv.ne­t...>>>
.will people hate on them the way they do on Ferrari/Schumacher?­>>>
I would rather any other driver on the grid win the championship than>>>Alonso>>>:\>­>
I think Alonso deserves it, he has made his up the grid from Minardi.>
Many have. I don't have the list but I think over the weekend Speedtv > counted five on the grid today, IIRC.

Of the current active drivers (including test drivers) started with:

Arrows - de la Rosa (1999)

BAR - Zonta (1999)

Benetton - Wurz (1997)

Jaguar - Klien (2004)

Jordan - Barrichello (1993), Doornbos (2004), Karthikeyan (2005),
Monteiro (2005), Sato (2002), Schumacher M. (1991),
Schumacher R. (1997)

Minardi - Albers (2005), Alonso (2001), Davidson (2002),
Fisichella (1996), Friesacher (2005), Trulli (1997),
Webber (2002)

Prost - Heidfeld (2000)

Red Bull - Liuzzi (2005)

Sauber - Massa (2002), Räikkönen (2001)

Williams - Button (2000), Coulthard (1994), Montoya (2001),
Villeneuve (1996)

Spot the missing teams ;-)­

MfG

Geoff.

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FooAtari 6 April 2005 01:56:02 permanent link ]
 "Dave R knows who" <kilbyfan@spamnotAO­L.com> wrote in news:vpx4e.13403
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"FooAtari" <alistair_fraser81R­EMOVE@THISyahoo.co.u­k> wrote in message > news:Xns962E86227DD­3Calistairfraser81RE­MO@194.106.32.13...>­> "Vile Merchant" <nospam@f1.com> wrote in>> news:4250bd59$1_2@n­ews.melbourne.pipene­tworks.com:>>
"David W." <NetZeroWard@webtv.­net> wrote in message>>> news:3987-42509E6C-­34@storefull-3336.ba­y.webtv.net...>>>> .will people hate on them the way they do on Ferrari/Schumacher?­>>>
I would rather any other driver on the grid win the championship than>>> Alonso>>>:\>>>
I think Alonso deserves it, he has made his up the grid from Minardi.>
Many have. I don't have the list but I think over the weekend Speedtv > counted five on the grid today, IIRC. >

I know, he still deserves it though.

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Peter 6 April 2005 11:51:41 permanent link ]
 faux_ferrari@yahoo.c­om writes>David W. wrote:>> .will people hate on them the way they do on Ferrari/Schumacher?­

Gotta love Alonso...fast talented [1], seems a decent enough bloke in
interviews and I can't remember him making any kind of Schuesque chop
or punt.>
The rest will only hate Flavio.>
The guy is scum and a blight on Renaults success.

[1] I suspect he may actually be the quickest of all the current
drivers.
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Mk IV 7 April 2005 04:02:15 permanent link ]
 Von Fourche <monaco6178@hotmail­.com> scribbled:
"David W." <NetZeroWard@webtv.­net> wrote in message> news:3987-42509E6C-­34@storefull-3336.ba­y.webtv.net...>> .will people hate on them the way they do on Ferrari/Schumacher?­>>
Well, if the championship goes down to the last race of the season> and Alonso slams into his opponet and wins the championship like> Schumacher, then why not hate him?

What if he slams into Schumacher? You stop hating Schumacher and start
hating the other guy? You just hate them both? Or you cheer for Alonso
'cause it was Schumacher he slammed into?


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Paul-B 7 April 2005 10:46:34 permanent link ]
 MK IV wrote:
What if he slams into Schumacher? You stop hating Schumacher and> start hating the other guy? You just hate them both? Or you cheer for> Alonso 'cause it was Schumacher he slammed into?

You didn't mention the other option - "None of the above".

Deliberate ramming is *never* justifiable.

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