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CarGuru > Formula-1 > Coulthard: "Michael accepts he moved, effectively, twice" 22 March 2005 08:10:40

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Coulthard: "Michael accepts he moved, effectively, twice"

Phil Newnham 20 March 2005 00:37:34
 Can we stop arguing about it now?

http://news.bbc.co.­uk/sport1/hi/motorsp­ort/formula_one/4363­945.stm

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Chen Fang Li 20 March 2005 01:05:52 permanent link ]
 Phil Newnham dont_you_spam_me@bt­internet.com wrote in message:
news:<3a3gscF67112m­U1@individual.net>> Can we stop arguing about it now?>

"Schumacher has been accused in the past of employing aggressive tactics on
the track. "

- not according to his fans, who believe his dung smells rosy.
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Neutron 20 March 2005 01:31:05 permanent link ]
 
"Chen Fang Li" <chenfangli@hotmail­.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ca65e3e2d­6132899898b0@news.in­dividual.net...> Phil Newnham dont_you_spam_me@bt­internet.com wrote in message:> news:<3a3gscF67112m­U1@individual.net>> > Can we stop arguing about it now?> >
"Schumacher has been accused in the past of employing aggressive tactics
the track. ">
- not according to his fans, who believe his dung smells rosy.

Rosy, everyone's dung smells.


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Falcon Freak 20 March 2005 05:22:39 permanent link ]
 
"neutron" <neutron(not real)@a.b.c.co.uk> wrote in message
news:d1i5mo$qcg$1@s­parta.btinternet.com­...>
"Chen Fang Li" <chenfangli@hotmail­.com> wrote in message> news:MPG.1ca65e3e2d­6132899898b0@news.in­dividual.net...>> Phil Newnham dont_you_spam_me@bt­internet.com wrote in message:>> news:<3a3gscF67112m­U1@individual.net>>>­ > Can we stop arguing about it now?>> >
"Schumacher has been accused in the past of employing aggressive tactics> on>> the track. ">>
- not according to his fans, who believe his dung smells rosy.>
Rosy, everyone's dung smells.>

Yes mine smelled really good this morning. Like roses.

FF


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F2004: 15 of 17*** 20 March 2005 05:28:33 permanent link ]
 On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:37:34 +0000, Phil Newnham
<dont_you_spam_me@b­tinternet.com> wrote:>Can we stop arguing about it now?

You pigs don't believe Coulthard when he says he brake checked MS in
the rain at Spa, why should anyone believe what he says he thinks MS
"accepts" today?

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John Smith 20 March 2005 07:48:01 permanent link ]
 time for a new name Marky?? F2004: 00 of 19!!


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Guest 20 March 2005 07:50:10 permanent link ]
 
F2004: 15 of 17*·** wrote:
You pigs don't believe Coulthard when he says he brake checked MS in> the rain at Spa,

The telemetry shows that he didn't. BTW, it's impossible for a driver
to press on the brake and not have it show up on the telemetry. There
was an incident almost identical to the MS-DC collision a few minutes
later in that race, so why haven't gone all Tourette's over Shinji
Nakano?

bp

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John Smith 20 March 2005 08:13:21 permanent link ]
 
<posner889@yahoo.co­m> wrote in message
news:1111290610.438­449.169940@f14g2000c­wb.googlegroups.com.­..

F2004: 15 of 17*·** wrote:
You pigs don't believe Coulthard when he says he brake checked MS in> the rain at Spa,

The telemetry shows that he didn't. BTW, it's impossible for a driver
to press on the brake and not have it show up on the telemetry. There
was an incident almost identical to the MS-DC collision a few minutes
later in that race, so why haven't gone all Tourette's over Shinji
Nakano?

bp

Mark doesn't comprehend facts, you'll have to do better. It's fun though to
get his bp up!


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Bob Dubery 20 March 2005 08:20:30 permanent link ]
 
F2004: 15 of 17*·** wrote:> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:37:34 +0000, Phil Newnham> <dont_you_spam_me@b­tinternet.com> wrote:> >Can we stop arguing about it now?>
You pigs don't believe Coulthard when he says he brake checked MS in> the rain at Spa,
Probably because he never said that.

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C Story 20 March 2005 08:54:04 permanent link ]
 "F2004: 15 of 17*·**" <Ron.Dennis@LyingCh­eatingSwine.com> wrote in
news:ldkp31p0qcn49b­mucu91e446ngbcerskje­@4ax.com:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:37:34 +0000, Phil Newnham> <dont_you_spam_me@b­tinternet.com> wrote:>>Can we stop arguing about it now?>
You pigs don't believe Coulthard when he says he brake checked MS in> the rain at Spa,

Except, he never said that ..

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Engelkott 20 March 2005 11:17:58 permanent link ]
 On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:37:34 +0000, Phil Newnham
<dont_you_spam_me@b­tinternet.com> wrote:
Can we stop arguing about it now?>

Nah. always room for argument! :)­

So, if 19 people got together and said you did something you thought
you did not do would you accept that you did it?

Even in a court of law people are found guilty who are innocent.
Birmingham 6, Guildford 4 to name but two cases.

Therefore it is not a concrete fact Schumacher is guilty!

:)­

Engelkott



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Engelkott 20 March 2005 11:18:43 permanent link ]
 On 19 Mar 2005 20:20:30 -0800, "Bob Dubery" <megapode@gmail.com­>
wrote:
F2004: 15 of 17*·** wrote:>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:37:34 +0000, Phil Newnham>> <dont_you_spam_me@b­tinternet.com> wrote:>> >Can we stop arguing about it now?>>
You pigs don't believe Coulthard when he says he brake checked MS in>> the rain at Spa,>Probably because he never said that.

No, he said he lifted IIRC or did not accelerate fully. One of the
two.

Engelkott

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BigBird 20 March 2005 15:59:09 permanent link ]
 
"Engelkott" <nomail@hotmail.com­> wrote in message
news:8p8q31hmau9mfe­aj58ipa0756e1omukv89­@4ax.com...> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:37:34 +0000, Phil Newnham> <dont_you_spam_me@b­tinternet.com> wrote:>
Can we stop arguing about it now?>>
Nah. always room for argument! :)­>
So, if 19 people got together and said you did something you thought> you did not do would you accept that you did it?>
Even in a court of law people are found guilty who are innocent.> Birmingham 6, Guildford 4 to name but two cases.>
Therefore it is not a concrete fact Schumacher is guilty!>

It's funny what passes for logic with some people.



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Paul-B 20 March 2005 16:24:25 permanent link ]
 Phil Newnham wrote:
Can we stop arguing about it now?>



This *is* rasf1!

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Paul-B
The original and the best
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Engelkott 20 March 2005 20:09:08 permanent link ]
 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:59:09 -0000, "BigBird" <bigbird@int.net> wrote:
"Engelkott" <nomail@hotmail.com­> wrote in message >news:8p8q31hmau9mf­eaj58ipa0756e1omukv8­9@4ax.com...>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:37:34 +0000, Phil Newnham>> <dont_you_spam_me@b­tinternet.com> wrote:>>
Can we stop arguing about it now?>>>
Nah. always room for argument! :)­>>
So, if 19 people got together and said you did something you thought>> you did not do would you accept that you did it?>>
Even in a court of law people are found guilty who are innocent.>> Birmingham 6, Guildford 4 to name but two cases.>>
Therefore it is not a concrete fact Schumacher is guilty!>>
It's funny what passes for logic with some people.>
Hey, i am not saying Schumacher is innocent! I am just saying that
nothing is beyond an argument and nothing is beyond doubt.

Engelkott

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Phil Newnham 21 March 2005 00:19:26 permanent link ]
 Engelkott wrote:> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:37:34 +0000, Phil Newnham> <dont_you_spam_me@b­tinternet.com> wrote:>
Can we stop arguing about it now?>>
Nah. always room for argument! :)­>
So, if 19 people got together and said you did something you thought> you did not do would you accept that you did it?>
Even in a court of law people are found guilty who are innocent.> Birmingham 6, Guildford 4 to name but two cases.

I believe they pleaded innocent.
Therefore it is not a concrete fact Schumacher is guilty!

If he accepts that he's guilty, and apologises, then he's guilty. That
sounds like MJF's argument over Jerez 97 - even though Schumacher
publicly admitted driving into Villeneuve in an attempt to win the WDC,
he wasn't guilty, because the video tape proves it. Or some such.

--
Phil

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Engelkott 21 March 2005 01:02:12 permanent link ]
 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:19:26 +0000, Phil Newnham
<dont_you_spam_me@b­tinternet.com> wrote:
Engelkott wrote:>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:37:34 +0000, Phil Newnham>> <dont_you_spam_me@b­tinternet.com> wrote:>>
Can we stop arguing about it now?>>>
Nah. always room for argument! :)­>>
So, if 19 people got together and said you did something you thought>> you did not do would you accept that you did it?>>
Even in a court of law people are found guilty who are innocent.>> Birmingham 6, Guildford 4 to name but two cases.>
I believe they pleaded innocent.

So did Schumacher! :)­
Therefore it is not a concrete fact Schumacher is guilty!>
If he accepts that he's guilty, and apologises, then he's guilty. That >sounds like MJF's argument over Jerez 97 - even though Schumacher >publicly admitted driving into Villeneuve in an attempt to win the WDC, >he wasn't guilty, because the video tape proves it. Or some such.

I am not referring to Jerez '97 whatsoever! I was commenting on
Australia '05 and the fact that nothing is ever beyond an argument.

Engelkott

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Ts 21 March 2005 03:16:09 permanent link ]
 On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:02:12 +0100, Engelkott wrote:
I am not referring to Jerez '97 whatsoever! I was commenting on> Australia '05 and the fact that nothing is ever beyond an argument.

Man, are you ever in the right place!

-ts
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Phil Newnham 21 March 2005 14:03:23 permanent link ]
 Engelkott wrote:> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:19:26 +0000, Phil Newnham> <dont_you_spam_me@b­tinternet.com> wrote:>
Engelkott wrote:>>
Even in a court of law people are found guilty who are innocent.>>>Birming­ham 6, Guildford 4 to name but two cases.>>
I believe they pleaded innocent.>
So did Schumacher! :)­

Only to begin with; according to DC he did eventually see the other
point of view, and apologised.

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Phil

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Mark Jones 22 March 2005 08:10:40 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:03:23 +0000, Phil Newnham
<pnewnhamat@yahoodo­t.com> wrote:>Engelkott wrote:>> On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:19:26 +0000, Phil Newnham>> <dont_you_spam_me@b­tinternet.com> wrote:>>>Engelkott wrote:>>>>Even in a court of law people are found guilty who are innocent.>>>>Birmin­gham 6, Guildford 4 to name but two cases.>>>
I believe they pleaded innocent.>>
So did Schumacher! :)­>
Only to begin with; according to DC he did eventually see the other >point of view, and apologised.

Well, I don't know. He apologised but he did vote against being
wrong. I think it's possible he just apologised because he wanted it
to be over and done with.

- Jones
FORZA!
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Phil Newnham 22 March 2005 13:14:51 permanent link ]
 Mark Jones wrote:> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:03:23 +0000, Phil Newnham> <pnewnhamat@yahoodo­t.com> wrote:>>Only to begin with; according to DC he did eventually see the other >>point of view, and apologised.>
Well, I don't know. He apologised but he did vote against being> wrong. I think it's possible he just apologised because he wanted it> to be over and done with.

It's not really an apology unless he meant it, though. I know what you
mean, it's possible he apologised just to save face, and next time
someone comes up behind him he's going to do the same thing - but he'll
look a bit of a fool if he does, IMO.

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Phil

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