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IRL Popular In England?
Hello 3 March 2005 00:52:04
	In article <qalVd.93702$Th1.69502@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Carey Akin" <cmakin@att.net> wrote: BTW, I just got back from a trip to the UK. The upcoming Homestead race is> receiving quite a bit of promotion on Sky Sports over there.> Carey in Manvel Well, let's see. Lots of Brits in ras.f1. Let's see how popular oval racing has become there, shall we?
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Probert 3 March 2005 01:17:36 [ permanent link ]
	"Hello" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote in message news:1109796724.062d90072cd3a66e9963ee5a7ed44b2a@teranews...> In article <qalVd.93702$Th1.69502@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,> "Carey Akin" <cmakin@att.net> wrote:> BTW, I just got back from a trip to the UK. The upcoming Homestead race >> is>> receiving quite a bit of promotion on Sky Sports over there.>> Carey in Manvel> Well, let's see. Lots of Brits in ras.f1. Let's see how popular oval> racing has become there, shall we? What's oval racing? I watch cricket when I go to The Oval. Cheers, Probert.
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Emma 3 March 2005 01:37:43 [ permanent link ]
	Hello <nobody@nospam.com> writes> "Carey Akin" <cmakin@att.net> wrote:> BTW, I just got back from a trip to the UK. The upcoming Homestead race is>> receiving quite a bit of promotion on Sky Sports over there.> Well, let's see. Lots of Brits in ras.f1. Let's see how popular oval>racing has become there, shall we? I love oval racing, stayed up until the early hours last weekend to watch the Nascar Busch race from Fontana and have just re-subbed to Sky Sports in time for this weekend's IRL race. Just wish they'd also show the Grandam championship! But that's not really what you wanted to hear when you cross posted this troll, was it? -- Emma - The Chocolate Monster - http://www.chocmonster.rules.it Alternative Gallery - http://www.altgallery.shows.it - updated for 2005!
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F2004: 15 of 17* 3 March 2005 02:10:12 [ permanent link ]
	On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 22:04:29 -0000, "Probert" <nick.wf1commdept2@btinternet.com> wrote:>As far as most of us are concerned, IRL isn't even the best open-wheel >series in the US - CART is (or was). ...And yet it is the very model for Formula England, set to completely subsume Formula 1 in 2006.
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Phillip M 3 March 2005 03:11:16 [ permanent link ]
	F2004: 15 of 17* Ron.Dennis@LyingCheatingSwine.com wrote in message: news:<ndec21da2tcd60fedb1004g0skba9a722s@4ax.com> <blah-blah!> Fuckwit.
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Sam Sung 3 March 2005 03:50:20 [ permanent link ]
	F2004: 15 of 17* wrote:> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 22:04:29 -0000, "Probert"> <nick.wf1commdept2@btinternet.com> wrote:> As far as most of us are concerned, IRL isn't even the best open-wheel >>series in the US - CART is (or was).> ...And yet it is the very model for Formula England, set to completely> subsume Formula 1 in 2006.> So open wheel is dying in the UK, too?
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Pete Fenelon 3 March 2005 03:57:22 [ permanent link ]
	In rec.autos.sport.f1 Sam Sung <please.spam.me@thisaddress.com> wrote:> So open wheel is dying in the UK, too? Yes. Formula 3 is a mix of "Formula Pushy Dad" youngsters, underfunded no-hopers who can't afford a full season, and tuggers in "Scholarship Class" cars. Formula Ford went crap when it acquired slick tyres and heavy Zetec engines. Formula BMW is for arrogant, charisma-free whiny teenagers who believe that if you've got a big hospitality facility you're a Real Racing Driver and must scowl at the public and not overtake. Formula Renault is just about holding its own as the only decent mainstream single-seater category. On the clubbie scene, there is some excellent single-seater racing - FFord 1600, Monoposto (which essentially lets any smallish single seater in) etc. But mainstream single-seater racing? Nobody cares. F3 races are an excuse to go for a pie and a pint when they're on the bill with the GT championship. pete -- pete@fenelon.com "Send lawyers, guns and money...."
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JohnM 3 March 2005 13:58:36 [ permanent link ]
	"Probert" <nick.wf1commdept2@btinternet.com> wrote in news:38n7bbF5nd10oU1@individual.net: "Carey Akin" <cmakin@att.net> wrote in message > news:TZqVd.313312$w62.242887@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...>> "Probert" <nick.wf1commdept2@btinternet.com> wrote in message>> news:38mrihF5pbdflU1@individual.net... <Snip>and we are still the World Champions!). Yeah, yeah. But what have you done lately? Grin [Humming "The Fields of Athenry"to myself smugly] -- JohnM
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Phil Newnham 3 March 2005 15:18:06 [ permanent link ]
	JohnM wrote:> "Probert" <nick.wf1commdept2@btinternet.com> wrote in> news:38n7bbF5nd10oU1@individual.net: > "Carey Akin" <cmakin@att.net> wrote in message >>news:TZqVd.313312$w62.242887@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...>> "Probert" <nick.wf1commdept2@btinternet.com> wrote in message>>>news:38mrihF5pbdflU1@individual.net...> <Snip>and we are still the World Champions!).> Yeah, yeah. But what have you done lately? Grin Suffered from injury problems (another one announced this morning). Where would Ireland be if you couldn't field O'Driscoll, O'Gara, and half your first choice forwards? Anyway, the best game of the weekend wasn't at Landsdowne Road. Wales for the Grand Slam! -- Phil http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/31307.html
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Hello 3 March 2005 17:33:29 [ permanent link ]
	In article <TZqVd.313312$w62.242887@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Carey Akin" <cmakin@att.net> wrote: In fact, the audience for IRL is so tiny here, it's unmeasurable (except> by> > Sky - and they won't publicly release the figures). It's cheap time filler> > programming.> But I was actually surprised to see it advertised.> > Carey in Manvel You didn't say "advertised"; you said "it's receiving quite a bit of promotion" in England. Obviously, Sky isn't going to dump a lot of their ad budget into an IRL race.
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Hello 3 March 2005 17:35:33 [ permanent link ]
	In article <2tj50d.oab.ln@fenelon.com>, Pete Fenelon <pete@fenelon.com> wrote: F3 races are> an excuse to go for a pie and a pint when they're on the bill with the> GT championship.> pete I got pint, what's "pie"?
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Peter Rogers 3 March 2005 17:47:05 [ permanent link ]
	"JohnM" <madeupanme@madeupaccount.com> wrote in message news:Xns960E65184998Djohniewowmailcom@130.133.1.4...> "Probert" <nick.wf1commdept2@btinternet.com> wrote in> news:38n7bbF5nd10oU1@individual.net:> "Carey Akin" <cmakin@att.net> wrote in message> > news:TZqVd.313312$w62.242887@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...> >> "Probert" <nick.wf1commdept2@btinternet.com> wrote in message> >> news:38mrihF5pbdflU1@individual.net...> <Snip>and we are still the World Champions!).> Yeah, yeah. But what have you done lately? Grin> [Humming "The Fields of Athenry"to myself smugly]> -- > JohnM Klingon Opera
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BeeJ 3 March 2005 18:07:54 [ permanent link ]
	Hello wrote: I got pint, what's "pie"? 3.14 to 2 decimal places
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Carey Akin 3 March 2005 18:10:23 [ permanent link ]
	"Hello" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote in message news:1109856811.c1a9fa1a0f2ec2546cc2d0513d26ce8e@teranews...> In article> You didn't say "advertised"; you said "it's receiving quite a bit of> promotion" in England. I would call a teaser for the series and a promo for the Homestead race, each on a couple of times an hour a fair amount of promotion.> Obviously, Sky isn't going to dump a lot of their ad budget into an IRL> race. Why is it obvious? Carey in Manvel
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Sam Sung 3 March 2005 18:14:32 [ permanent link ]
	Hello wrote:> In article <5$XDgVEnIjJCFwOm@excalvehs.demon.co.uk>,> Emma <Emma@excalvehs.demon.co.uk> wrote:> Hello <nobody@nospam.com> writes>> "Carey Akin" <cmakin@att.net> wrote:>>> BTW, I just got back from a trip to the UK. The upcoming Homestead race is>>>>receiving quite a bit of promotion on Sky Sports over there.>>> Well, let's see. Lots of Brits in ras.f1. Let's see how popular oval>>>racing has become there, shall we?>> I love oval racing, stayed up until the early hours last weekend to >>watch the Nascar Busch race from Fontana and have just re-subbed to Sky >>Sports in time for this weekend's IRL race. Just wish they'd also show >>the Grandam championship!>> But that's not really what you wanted to hear when you cross posted this >>troll, was it?> You're a Racing fan. Glad you liked the NASCAR races, but that's not > really responsive to the question, is it? Its very responsive. NASCAR probably defines oval racing in the UK as much as it is the defining oval racing body in North America. Open wheel would hardly qualify as a support race to NASCAR.
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Emma 3 March 2005 18:36:30 [ permanent link ]
	Hello <nobody@nospam.com> wrote:> Emma <Emma@excalvehs.demon.co.uk> wrote:>> Hello <nobody@nospam.com> writes>> > "Carey Akin" <cmakin@att.net> wrote:>> > BTW, I just got back from a trip to the UK. The upcoming >> >>Homestead race is>> >> receiving quite a bit of promotion on Sky Sports over there.>> > Well, let's see. Lots of Brits in ras.f1. Let's see how popular oval>> >racing has become there, shall we?>> I love oval racing, stayed up until the early hours last weekend to>> watch the Nascar Busch race from Fontana and have just re-subbed to Sky>> Sports in time for this weekend's IRL race. Just wish they'd also show>> the Grandam championship!>> But that's not really what you wanted to hear when you cross posted this>> troll, was it?> You're a Racing fan. Glad you liked the NASCAR races, but that's not>really responsive to the question, is it? I posted my experiences as a "Brit in ras.f1" who likes at least three series which race on ovals. How much more response did you require from each of us? -- Emma - The Chocolate Monster - http://www.chocmonster.rules.it
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Boosbeck. Alex 4 March 2005 01:33:17 [ permanent link ]
	Will channel 5 be showing the IRL this year in the UK? thanks, Alex.
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Sam Sung 4 March 2005 02:18:11 [ permanent link ]
	Carey Akin wrote:> "Sam Sung" <please.spam.me@thisaddress.com> wrote in message> news:9%EVd.4036$8d4.2332@fe04.lga...> Because the Brits are smart enough to recognize a loser when they see one.> Better go back and check your history books.> Carey in Manvel> They recognize you. That's a good example.
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Hello 4 March 2005 02:39:38 [ permanent link ]
	In article <u0QmpwMuDyJCFAMS@excalvehs.demon.co.uk>, Emma <Emma@excalvehs.demon.co.uk> wrote: Hello <nobody@nospam.com> wrote:> > Emma <Emma@excalvehs.demon.co.uk> wrote:> >> Hello <nobody@nospam.com> writes> >> > "Carey Akin" <cmakin@att.net> wrote:> >> > BTW, I just got back from a trip to the UK. The upcoming > >> >>Homestead race is> >> >> receiving quite a bit of promotion on Sky Sports over there.> >> > Well, let's see. Lots of Brits in ras.f1. Let's see how popular oval> >> >racing has become there, shall we?> >> I love oval racing, stayed up until the early hours last weekend to> >> watch the Nascar Busch race from Fontana and have just re-subbed to Sky> >> Sports in time for this weekend's IRL race. Just wish they'd also show> >> the Grandam championship!> >> But that's not really what you wanted to hear when you cross posted this> >> troll, was it?> > You're a Racing fan. Glad you liked the NASCAR races, but that's not> >really responsive to the question, is it?> I posted my experiences as a "Brit in ras.f1" who likes at least three > series which race on ovals. How much more response did you require from > each of us? I didn't solicit an "each"response. I asked: "Let's see how popular oval racing has become there [England], shall we?" Thanks to your response, we now now there's at least one oval fan in England, but I'm looking for a broader brush. Is the IRL race receiving "quite a bit of promotion", by an honest assessment, in England?
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Hello 4 March 2005 02:41:30 [ permanent link ]
	In article <d0790j$t83$1@titan.btinternet.com>, "Dean Smith $MRDSUK Auto Imports$" <mrdsukautos@btinternet.com> wrote: Gotta agree with Emma here> I regularly stay up late to watch Nascar and all other forms of motorsport> on terrestrial TV So you now agree with Emma that you like oval racing. That's two. The discussion is about how popular oval racing is in England. Is the British Grand Prix likely to be placed atop the Rockingham oval, anytime soon?
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Hello 4 March 2005 02:42:31 [ permanent link ]
	In article <8cijf2-tto.ln1@violator.borg>, BeeJ <bryan@the-jackson-familydotcodotuk> wrote: Hello wrote:> I got pint, what's "pie"?> 3.14 to 2 decimal places No, that's "Pi."
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Hello 4 March 2005 02:44:09 [ permanent link ]
	In article <jVEVd.317272$w62.281683@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Carey Akin" <cmakin@att.net> wrote: "Hello" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote in message> news:1109856811.c1a9fa1a0f2ec2546cc2d0513d26ce8e@teranews...> > In article> > You didn't say "advertised"; you said "it's receiving quite a bit of> > promotion" in England.> I would call a teaser for the series and a promo for the Homestead race,> each on a couple of times an hour a fair amount of promotion. Now we're down to "fair bit." Last stop on the way to "some?" Obviously, Sky isn't going to dump a lot of their ad budget into an IRL> > race.> Why is it obvious?> Carey in Manvel Because I know more about Racing than you.
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Paul-B 4 March 2005 02:49:55 [ permanent link ]
	Hello wrote: In article <d0790j$t83$1@titan.btinternet.com>,> "Dean Smith $MRDSUK Auto Imports$" <mrdsukautos@btinternet.com> > wrote:> Gotta agree with Emma here> > I regularly stay up late to watch Nascar and all other forms of> > motorsport on terrestrial TV> So you now agree with Emma that you like oval racing. That's two. The > discussion is about how popular oval racing is in England.> Is the British Grand Prix likely to be placed atop the Rockingham> oval, anytime soon? Why should it be? Nothing wrong with oval racing, ISTR being mesmerized by Nigel driving the ovals in CART... like all open-wheel racing the fascination is in watching how the race develops, not the number of times driver x overtakes driver y. In the same way street and non-oval races are fascinating to watch (even Monaco). -- Paul-B The original and the best
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Dean Smith 4 March 2005 04:08:40 [ permanent link ]
	"Hello" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote in message news:1109889691.53bbf69365b6a563c4fe4b6e877fbe36@teranews...> In article <d0790j$t83$1@titan.btinternet.com>,> "Dean Smith $MRDSUK Auto Imports$" <mrdsukautos@btinternet.com>> wrote:> Gotta agree with Emma here> > I regularly stay up late to watch Nascar and all other forms of motorsport> > on terrestrial TV> So you now agree with Emma that you like oval racing. That's two. The> discussion is about how popular oval racing is in England. MMmmmmmmmmm I did actually say a lot of my friends are doing the same thing now as well But maybe you chose to ignore that! Also i never said i didnt like it either........Why are you not reading what people post dude??? Is the British Grand Prix likely to be placed atop the Rockingham oval,> anytime soon?
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Hello 4 March 2005 04:40:02 [ permanent link ]
	In article <d088u8$8ju$1@titan.btinternet.com>, "Dean Smith $MRDSUK Auto Imports$" <mrdsukautos@btinternet.com> wrote: "Hello" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote in message> news:1109889691.53bbf69365b6a563c4fe4b6e877fbe36@teranews...> > In article <d0790j$t83$1@titan.btinternet.com>,> > "Dean Smith $MRDSUK Auto Imports$" <mrdsukautos@btinternet.com>> > wrote:> > Gotta agree with Emma here> > > I regularly stay up late to watch Nascar and all other forms of> motorsport> > > on terrestrial TV> > So you now agree with Emma that you like oval racing. That's two. The> > discussion is about how popular oval racing is in England.> MMmmmmmmmmm> I did actually say a lot of my friends are doing the same thing now as well> But maybe you chose to ignore that!> Also i never said i didnt like it either........Why are you not reading what> people post dude??? Perhaps understand the question before submitting irrelevant replies. ...Dude.
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F2004: 15 of 17* 4 March 2005 04:41:13 [ permanent link ]
	On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 16:18:11 -0600, Sam Sung <please.spam.me@thisaddress.com> wrote:>Carey Akin wrote:>> "Sam Sung" <please.spam.me@thisaddress.com> wrote in message>> news:9%EVd.4036$8d4.2332@fe04.lga...>>>Because the Brits are smart enough to recognize a loser when they see one.>> Better go back and check your history books.>> Carey in Manvel> They recognize you. That's a good example. OH! ...I say! Marvelous riposte, Potsie ...simply smashing!
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William Lynch 4 March 2005 10:15:54 [ permanent link ]
	in article 1109796724.062d90072cd3a66e9963ee5a7ed44b2a@teranews, Hello at nobody@nospam.com wrote on 3/2/05 12:52 PM: In article <qalVd.93702$Th1.69502@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,> "Carey Akin" <cmakin@att.net> wrote:> BTW, I just got back from a trip to the UK. The upcoming Homestead race is>> receiving quite a bit of promotion on Sky Sports over there.>> Carey in Manvel> Well, let's see. Lots of Brits in ras.f1. Let's see how popular oval> racing has become there, shall we? If it is popular in the UK, that would raise the number of countries for that to . . . um, one.
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Wobbly Pop 4 March 2005 10:31:35 [ permanent link ]
	william lynch x@y.z wrote in message: news:<BE4D3D0C.2490%x@y.z>> in article 1109796724.062d90072cd3a66e9963ee5a7ed44b2a@teranews, Hello at> nobody@nospam.com wrote on 3/2/05 12:52 PM:> In article <qalVd.93702$Th1.69502@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,> > "Carey Akin" <cmakin@att.net> wrote:> > BTW, I just got back from a trip to the UK. The upcoming Homestead race is> >> receiving quite a bit of promotion on Sky Sports over there.> >> Carey in Manvel> > Well, let's see. Lots of Brits in ras.f1. Let's see how popular oval> > racing has become there, shall we?> If it is popular in the UK, that would raise the number of countries> for that to . . . um, one.> The IRL is not all that popular in Canada either. TSN treats it like Sky Digital in the UK, more or less filler. Sometimes they don't show the races when they're on ESPN through TSN at all, sometimes they show them 2 days later during the afternoon. Now that Patrick Carpentier is in the IRL and the series is holding road races, that will no doubt change. Canada has 3 Champcar races that are well attended, the IRL has none. On a different note, I understand that NASCAR might be coming to Circuit Gilles Villeneuve in Montreal, which should raise the profile of that growing sport. France's old man used to consider Watkins Glen as a Canadian race, but now that Nextel is the chief sponsor and not Winston, Nextel (a telecom company) wants exposure outside of the USA, while Winston was only concerned about domestic American races. The IRL once considered racing at Mosport back in 1997 on an road course oval, but that never came about because the track was purchased by Dr. Don Panoz.
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Guest 4 March 2005 22:54:24 [ permanent link ]
	Hello <nobody@nospam.com> wrote: In article ><jVEVd.317272$w62.281683@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,> "Carey Akin" <cmakin@att.net> wrote:> "Hello" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote in message>> news:1109856811.c1a9fa1a0f2ec2546cc2d0513d26ce8e@teranews...>> > In article>> > You didn't say "advertised"; you said "it's receiving quite a bit of>> > promotion" in England.>> I would call a teaser for the series and a promo for the Homestead race,>> each on a couple of times an hour a fair amount of promotion.> Now we're down to "fair bit." Last stop on the way to "some?"> Obviously, Sky isn't going to dump a lot of their ad budget into an IRL>> > race.>> Why is it obvious?>> Carey in Manvel> Because I know more about Racing than you. And more importantly because THEY know more about racing than does Carey. Gary
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Sam Sung 4 March 2005 23:26:18 [ permanent link ]
	gshell@fuse.net wrote:> Hello <nobody@nospam.com> wrote:> In article >><jVEVd.317272$w62.281683@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,>>"Carey Akin" <cmakin@att.net> wrote:>> "Hello" <nobody@nospam.com> wrote in message>>>news:1109856811.c1a9fa1a0f2ec2546cc2d0513d26ce8e@teranews...>>> In article>>>> You didn't say "advertised"; you said "it's receiving quite a bit of>>>>promotion" in England.>>> I would call a teaser for the series and a promo for the Homestead race,>>>each on a couple of times an hour a fair amount of promotion.>> Now we're down to "fair bit." Last stop on the way to "some?">> Obviously, Sky isn't going to dump a lot of their ad budget into an IRL>>>>race.>>> Why is it obvious?>>> Carey in Manvel>> Because I know more about Racing than you.> And more importantly because THEY know more about racing than does> Carey.> Gary That isn't much of a challenge. The average Buick owner knows more about racing than Carey.
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Wayne Stuart 5 March 2005 03:38:49 [ permanent link ]
	Hello <nobody@nospam.com> wrote: In article <u0QmpwMuDyJCFAMS@excalvehs.demon.co.uk>,> Emma <Emma@excalvehs.demon.co.uk> wrote:> I posted my experiences as a "Brit in ras.f1" who likes at least three> > series which race on ovals. How much more response did you require from> > each of us?> I didn't solicit an "each"response. I asked: "Let's see how popular oval> racing has become there [England], shall we?" Thanks to your response,> we now now there's at least one oval fan in England, but I'm looking for> a broader brush. > Is the IRL race receiving "quite a bit of promotion", by an honest > assessment, in England? No. I've seen a couple of TV adverts for it, but no more than simply to inform the tiny minority of motorsport fans who subscribe to Sky Football... erm... I mean, Sky Sports, that they're showing something for us for a change. I wouldn't exactly describe that as "quite a bit", and frankly, it'd be hard pushed to be described as "promotion". -- This message was brought to you by Wayne Stuart - Have a nice day!
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Racefan_Dan 6 March 2005 00:38:49 [ permanent link ]
	"Probert" <nick.wf1commdept2@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:38mrihF5pbdflU1@individual.net...>So, if 12 percent of the maximum audience is watching it and we extrapolate >the Sky figures, (7.6 million homes @ 12%), 910,000 Sky Sport subscribers >should be available to watch IRL (or NASCAR or CART (if it's still alive)).> In fact, the audience for IRL is so tiny here, it's unmeasurable (except > by Sky - and they won't publicly release the figures). It's cheap time > filler programming. That's funny -- last year in the USA, average IRL IndyCar Series viewership was 881,475. The 2nd last race of the year at California did a whopping 0.1 share on ESPN -- that's 102,200 households.. out of a nation of how many?!! That would be hilarious if there were more Brits watching IRL than in America!
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Dean Smith 6 March 2005 03:36:44 [ permanent link ]
	"Probert" <nick.wf1commdept2@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:38uqn5F5ugfnlU1@individual.net...> "Racefan_Dan" <Race_news@focusit.cjb.net> wrote in message> news:fe2dnfwvnoEvh7ffRVn-rQ@aci.on.ca...> > "Probert" <nick.wf1commdept2@btinternet.com> wrote in message> > news:38mrihF5pbdflU1@individual.net...> >>So, if 12 percent of the maximum audience is watching it and we> >>extrapolate the Sky figures, (7.6 million homes @ 12%), 910,000 Sky Sport> >>subscribers should be available to watch IRL (or NASCAR or CART (if it's> >>still alive)).> >> In fact, the audience for IRL is so tiny here, it's unmeasurable (except> >> by Sky - and they won't publicly release the figures). It's cheap time> >> filler programming.> > That's funny -- last year in the USA, average IRL IndyCar Series> > viewership was 881,475.> > The 2nd last race of the year at California did a whopping 0.1 share ESPN -- that's 102,200 households.. out of a nation of how many?!!> > That would be hilarious if there were more Brits watching IRL than in> > America!> I know it was bad, but I had no idea the home viewing figures were so low!> However, that said, there is absolutely no way that anything approaching> even 10% of the notional 910,000 homes will be watching IRL on a Sunday> night at anywhere between 6pm and 2am (on the Monday morning). I'd be> surprised of the actual figure was anything higher than 0.1% (about 1000> homes).> Sky go apeshit with delerium when one of Sky Sport's main reasons for> exisiting (Premiership football) gets an audience above 300,000. And that> 300,000 is individual viewers - which would, under normal circumstances,> equate to around 200,000 homes. The footy on Sky, though, isn't mearsured a normal way, since most of the bigger audiences are for the Sunday> afternoon match and a significant proportion are watching it in the pub.> The highlights of IRL and CART and NASCAR were shown - last year by the> terrestrial broadcaster, Channel 5; usually at about 2 am in the morning> sometime during the week after the race. Their audiences were also so low be officially unmeasurable.> Do they include video recorders as viewers though???
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Probert 6 March 2005 04:00:48 [ permanent link ]
	"Dean Smith (MRDSUK Auto Imports)" <mrdsukautos@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:d0dfqc$16t$1@hercules.btinternet.com...> "Probert" <nick.wf1commdept2@btinternet.com> wrote in message> news:38uqn5F5ugfnlU1@individual.net...>> "Racefan_Dan" <Race_news@focusit.cjb.net> wrote in message>> news:fe2dnfwvnoEvh7ffRVn-rQ@aci.on.ca...>> > "Probert" <nick.wf1commdept2@btinternet.com> wrote in message>> > news:38mrihF5pbdflU1@individual.net...>> >>So, if 12 percent of the maximum audience is watching it and we>> >>extrapolate the Sky figures, (7.6 million homes @ 12%), 910,000 Sky> Sport>> >>subscribers should be available to watch IRL (or NASCAR or CART (if >> >>it's>> >>still alive)).>> >> In fact, the audience for IRL is so tiny here, it's unmeasurable> (except>> >> by Sky - and they won't publicly release the figures). It's cheap time>> >> filler programming.>> > That's funny -- last year in the USA, average IRL IndyCar Series>> > viewership was 881,475.>> > The 2nd last race of the year at California did a whopping 0.1 share> on>> > ESPN -- that's 102,200 households.. out of a nation of how many?!!>> > That would be hilarious if there were more Brits watching IRL than in>> > America!>> I know it was bad, but I had no idea the home viewing figures were so >> low!>> However, that said, there is absolutely no way that anything approaching>> even 10% of the notional 910,000 homes will be watching IRL on a Sunday>> night at anywhere between 6pm and 2am (on the Monday morning). I'd be>> surprised of the actual figure was anything higher than 0.1% (about 1000>> homes).>> Sky go apeshit with delerium when one of Sky Sport's main reasons for>> exisiting (Premiership football) gets an audience above 300,000. And that>> 300,000 is individual viewers - which would, under normal circumstances,>> equate to around 200,000 homes. The footy on Sky, though, isn't mearsured> in>> a normal way, since most of the bigger audiences are for the Sunday>> afternoon match and a significant proportion are watching it in the pub.>> The highlights of IRL and CART and NASCAR were shown - last year by the>> terrestrial broadcaster, Channel 5; usually at about 2 am in the morning>> sometime during the week after the race. Their audiences were also so low> to>> be officially unmeasurable.>> Do they include video recorders as viewers though???> Video/DVD recorders have been built into the BARB figures for over a decade - though it's still highly researched guesswork. Cheers, Probert.
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