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John Shar Pei Face Ketchup Boy Kerry 25 January 2005 06:44:51
 Funny how they never explain what they were doing in Al Queda land while
proclaiming they are " innocent" . Guess it is just a coincindence that US
forces found them collaborating with the Taliban after 9-11.



GUANTANAMO BAY BRITONS 'WILL SUE THE USA FOR £30M'
Mon Jan 24 2005 21:30:10 ET

THE four Britons still held in Guantanamo Bay are due to fly home today as
their lawyers prepare to launch a record £30million compensation claim over
their 'illegal' detention.

MORE


The UK's DAILY MAIL is planning to report on Tuesday: At least two of the
men allege they have been tortured and all four are understood to claim
their human rights were consistently abused during three years in the
controversial camp on Cuba.

The claims will form the basis of the biggest compensation suit so far
against the U.S. authorities over alleged torture and abuse.

It will detail a string of what are said to be 'devastating' allegations
over the four men's detention and treatment.

Under the agreement with the U.S. to secure their freedom, the four will be
questioned by anti-terrorist detectives at Paddington Green police station
in Central London where they can be held for up to seven days.

Former law student and father of four Moazzam Begg, 36, from Birmingham,
computer programmer Feroz Abbasi, 24, motorcycle courier Martin Mubanga, 29,
and Richard Belmar, 24, all from London, will be arrested under the
Terrorism Act 2000 after arriving in Britain today on an RAF plane.

All have been extensively interviewed in Guantanamo Bay by MI5 but despite
detailed files, including alleged evidence uncovered by U.S. interrogators,
they are said to be unlikely to face charges in Britain.

The U.S. say they attended Al Qaeda terror camps, volunteered for suicide
bombings and pledged allegiance to Osama Bin Laden.

Begg is said under to have confessed to a plot to bomb Parliament while
Abbasi is alleged to have volunteered for suicide missions and to have been
arrested in the Afghan frontline town of Kunduz armed with a rifle and two
grenades.

But any 'evidence' obtained in Camp Delta cannot be used in courts here
because the detainees were not legally represented or formally cautioned.
The men have claimed that admissions they are alleged to have made were
extracted 'under duress'.

Their lawyers and families, who say all four may be deeply traumatized by
their three years detention, believe the men will be questioned and
released, although the Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir John Stevens is
said to have still been considering at the weekend whether any of the men
should be charged.






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John Shar Pei Face Ketchup Boy Kerry 25 January 2005 08:33:41 [ permanent link ]
 
"Roedy Green" <look-on@mindprod.c­om.invalid> wrote in message
news:cvhbv0htd17vcc­4njhpf0eoo87r55b3nvn­@4ax.com...> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:44:51 -0500, "John Shar Pei Face Ketchup Boy> Kerry" <My Botox Wore Off @ http://tinyurl.com/­4k2la .com> wrote or> quoted :>
Funny how they never explain what they were doing in Al Queda land
while> >proclaiming they are " innocent" . Guess it is just a coincindence that
forces found them collaborating with the Taliban after 9-11.>
If you have no evidence against them, even after torture, you have no> evidence.>
Imagine if Canadians kidnapped you and tortured and held you without> any evidence you had done anything wrong. You would be hopping mad> too.>
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If i was wondering around in a terrorist camp in Canada for no good reason ,
i would expect Canadians to arrest me .
Brits from London just happen to be wandering around Taliban camps after
9-11 when thos eBrits know the US is going inot Afghanistan to kill the
Taliban.
Darwin winners to the max.




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Martin Schmidt 25 January 2005 10:43:04 [ permanent link ]
 John Shar Pei Face Ketchup Boy Kerry wrote:
If i was wondering around in a terrorist camp in Canada for no good reason ,> i would expect Canadians to arrest me .

But what if you would just live in a country that Canada sees as a
terrorist country? What if Canada would attack that country, arrest you
and torture you?

BTW, those above were rhetorical questions. I know you'll post nonsense
and lie through your teeth (and not what you really would think in the
situation above). So no need to answer.

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Phil Newnham 25 January 2005 13:59:48 [ permanent link ]
 Martin Schmidt wrote:> John Shar Pei Face Ketchup Boy Kerry wrote:>
If i was wondering around in a terrorist camp in Canada for no good reason ,>>i would expect Canadians to arrest me .>
But what if you would just live in a country that Canada sees as a> terrorist country? What if Canada would attack that country, arrest you> and torture you?>
BTW, those above were rhetorical questions. I know you'll post nonsense> and lie through your teeth (and not what you really would think in the> situation above). So no need to answer.

If you already know it's pointless, why do you bother? ;)

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Probert 25 January 2005 17:52:07 [ permanent link ]
 
"John Shar Pei Face Ketchup Boy Kerry" <My Botox Wore Off @
http://tinyurl.com/­4k2la .com> wrote in message
news:41f5b32a$1_2@1­27.0.0.1...

...wrote yet another off-topic load of balls.


Haven't you learned your lesson yet?

Cheers,
Probert.


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Phil Newnham 25 January 2005 19:11:19 [ permanent link ]
 John Shar Pei Face Ketchup Boy Kerry wrote:> Funny how the Euros dont' think it's pointless to capture terrorists in> their countries.

1) I don't see how it's funny and b) what does it have to do with the
fact that you have no power of independent thought?

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John Briggs 25 January 2005 19:40:25 [ permanent link ]
 Phil Newnham wrote:> John Shar Pei Face Ketchup Boy Kerry wrote:>> Funny how the Euros dont' think it's pointless to capture terrorists>> in their countries.>
1) I don't see how it's funny and b) what does it have to do with the> fact that you have no power of independent thought?

The ability to cut-and-paste at random isn't evidence of dependent thought,
either.
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Docky Wocky 25 January 2005 23:25:16 [ permanent link ]
 john shar pei face ketchup boy kerry sez:

"But any 'evidence' obtained in Camp Delta cannot be used in courts here
because the detainees were not legally represented or formally cautioned..."
___________________­_______
That's exactly what we need in a war on terror. More lawyers.

Gee. What if on the day the RAF plane lands in Britton, there aren't any
passengers aboard? And the crew is all smiles.

Wouldn't you say that would be a lot less bother all around?


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The Pervert 25 January 2005 23:27:28 [ permanent link ]
 
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I hope they win.

You would. I hope you get what you deserve from your fellow Americans.
And if you're not American, thank you.




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Ronin 26 January 2005 02:17:06 [ permanent link ]
 
"Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message
news:w2xJd.16257$ef­6.2174@trnddc07...> john shar pei face ketchup boy kerry sez:>
"But any 'evidence' obtained in Camp Delta cannot be used in courts here> because the detainees were not legally represented or formally
cautioned..."> ___________________­_______> That's exactly what we need in a war on terror. More lawyers.>
Gee. What if on the day the RAF plane lands in Britton, there aren't any> passengers aboard? And the crew is all smiles.>
Wouldn't you say that would be a lot less bother all around?


Docky Wocky supports the murder of UK citizens.


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John Shar Pei Face Ketchup Boy Kerry 26 January 2005 02:52:05 [ permanent link ]
 
"ronin" <ronin@ree.tv> wrote in message
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"John Shar Pei Face Ketchup Boy Kerry" <My Botox Wore Off @> http://tinyurl.com/­4k2la .com> wrote in message> news:41f5ccac$1_1@1­27.0.0.1...> >
"Roedy Green" <look-on@mindprod.c­om.invalid> wrote in message> > news:cvhbv0htd17vcc­4njhpf0eoo87r55b3nvn­@4ax.com...> > > On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:44:51 -0500, "John Shar Pei Face Ketchup Boy> > > Kerry" <My Botox Wore Off @ http://tinyurl.com/­4k2la .com> wrote or> > > quoted :> > >
Funny how they never explain what they were doing in Al Queda land> > while> > > >proclaiming they are " innocent" . Guess it is just a coincindence
that> > US> > > >forces found them collaborating with the Taliban after 9-11.> > >
If you have no evidence against them, even after torture, you have no> > > evidence.> > >
Imagine if Canadians kidnapped you and tortured and held you without> > > any evidence you had done anything wrong. You would be hopping mad> > > too.> > >
===================­===> >
If i was wondering around in a terrorist camp in Canada for no good
reason> ,> > i would expect Canadians to arrest me .> > Brits from London just happen to be wandering around Taliban camps after> > 9-11 when thos eBrits know the US is going inot Afghanistan to kill the> > Taliban.>
Then Bush failed by letting them go, right?>
===================­

No, Bush failed by giving into Brit hissy fits demanding the US return them
to Britland where Bush believes they will be tried under Brit law.
The Muslim INfestation of europe is finally getting serious enoug for EU to
start fumigating them out.






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Martin Schmidt 26 January 2005 03:19:27 [ permanent link ]
 Phil Newnham wrote:
If you already know it's pointless, why do you bother? ;)

Sometimes I just can't resist to reply to nonsense. *g*

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NoSpamAllowed 26 January 2005 03:46:53 [ permanent link ]
 On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:27:28 -0800, "The Pervert" <pervert12@spambad.­yahoo.com>
wrote:
<NoSpamAllowed> wrote in message>news:7tgcv0­tgcj3hd2pptsp3726j28­so7eh98g@4ax.com...>­
I hope they win.>
You would. I hope you get what you deserve from your fellow Americans.>And if you're not American, thank you.>


Yes, as an American, I believe in the rule of law. That means no one is held
without trial.

No one.

When we violate this rule, it is the same as if the Chinese were to hold one of
us for three years without trial. We would deserve to be compensated, and so
the British deserve to be compensated.

Also remember, the rest of the world looks to us for the lowest amount of human
rights they must do. Let's not set the bar lower.




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the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to
drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a
parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have
to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for
lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
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