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Re: bar wanted to protest agsinst rivals
Bigbird 9 May 2005 20:37:57
	4MLA1FN wrote:> as reported on atlasf1.com...> "BAR are adamant that they were not alone in running a fuel system> that contravened Formula One's technical regulations...Ron Meadows> (BAR team manager) said "...we believed that the fuel systems used by> other teams were similar to ours, as confirmed by our suppliers ATL...> and would still have contained fuel after being weighed." "> Before the stewards cleared them they had already filled out the six forms to protest the other cars in order to test this. However it became academic, they thought, once they were cleared. The scrutineers failed to look at the other cars in the same detail. There still hasn't been an explanation for this except Max saying there was no need as they were not under suspicion. just to clarify: it wasn't the fuel system that was illegal, right? my> understanding is that the issue is more about how the tank might be> used during a race than the tank itself (and also that fuel cannot be> use as ballast). it seems a team could legally use the tank provided> they ballast their car to 600kgs when fully empty. Correct. are any post-race> weights greater than 605kgs? BARs. (i think reports said the extra> non-drainable compartment on the tank could hold about 5kgs of fuel.)> Rather more than that. The BAR lost 12kg IIRC when drained. Most of that was in the collector.
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4mla1fn 9 May 2005 21:10:04 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 9 May 2005 17:37:57 +0100, "Bigbird" <BigBird.usenet@REMTHSgmail.com> wrote: The scrutineers failed to look at the > other cars in the same detail. There still hasn't been an explanation for > this except Max saying there was no need as they were not under suspicion. that makes sense to me depending on the order in which cars were checked and released, e.g. non-point-scoring cars first, 4th - 8th next, and podium cars scrutinized last and perhaps more thoroughly. Rather more than that. The BAR lost 12kg IIRC when drained. Most of that was >in the collector. egads, that's quite a bit. thanks for the clariication. 4MLA1FN
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Trevor 10 May 2005 03:56:05 [ permanent link ]
	"4MLA1FN" <eff1fan@mail.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:qd1v71pagophv9tgtmvslqecgqb8qoreen@4ax.com...> as reported on atlasf1.com...> "BAR are adamant that they were not alone in running a fuel system> that contravened Formula One's technical regulations...Ron Meadows> (BAR team manager) said "...we believed that the fuel systems used by> other teams were similar to ours, as confirmed by our suppliers ATL...> and would still have contained fuel after being weighed." "> just to clarify: it wasn't the fuel system that was illegal, right? my> understanding is that the issue is more about how the tank might be> used during a race than the tank itself (and also that fuel cannot be> use as ballast). it seems a team could legally use the tank provided> they ballast their car to 600kgs when fully empty. are any post-race> weights greater than 605kgs? (i think reports said the extra> non-drainable compartment on the tank could hold about 5kgs of fuel.)> 4MLA1FN I've read elsewhere, Ferrari, McLaren and Sauber were all running the same system.
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Brian Sullivan 10 May 2005 04:35:11 [ permanent link ]
	On Tue, 10 May 2005 09:56:05 +1000, Trevor wrote: "4MLA1FN" <eff1fan@mail.yahoo.com> wrote in message> news:qd1v71pagophv9tgtmvslqecgqb8qoreen@4ax.com...>> as reported on atlasf1.com...>> "BAR are adamant that they were not alone in running a fuel system>> that contravened Formula One's technical regulations...Ron Meadows>> (BAR team manager) said "...we believed that the fuel systems used by>> other teams were similar to ours, as confirmed by our suppliers ATL...>> and would still have contained fuel after being weighed." ">> just to clarify: it wasn't the fuel system that was illegal, right? my>> understanding is that the issue is more about how the tank might be>> used during a race than the tank itself (and also that fuel cannot be>> use as ballast). it seems a team could legally use the tank provided>> they ballast their car to 600kgs when fully empty. are any post-race>> weights greater than 605kgs? (i think reports said the extra>> non-drainable compartment on the tank could hold about 5kgs of fuel.)>> 4MLA1FN> I've read elsewhere, Ferrari, McLaren and Sauber were all running the same> system. I believe on a TSN broadcast (I think before the Saturday qualifying) -- there was discussion that several other teams had ordered new fuel systems for Spain (the implication was that Ferrari was among them -- but they were careful about what they said -- to avoid "libel" issues - their characterization)
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