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Guest 19 April 2005 05:02:12
 Today I had the ultimate experience any car guy can have. Before
I started my fleet service business I was Group Sales Manager for
one of the largest megadealerships on the east coast. We sold
just about any brand you can name. One of them was not Ferrari
but when I was still racing, in the sixties, among the cars I got
to drive was a Ferrari.

One of the partners called me and ask me to evaluate a Testarossa
that a customer wanted to trade on a Ford GT that was scheduled
to arrive at one of the groups Ford dealers. I said sure, who
would not want to drive a Testarossa. I drove down to the
dealership and there sat a mint 89 Testarossa with 19K on the
clock. The owner was a 28 year old guy that worked as one of the
Super tech at one of the groups MB dealerships, about 50 miles
away. I put the car on the lift, gave it the one over, top and
bottom. It indeed was mint. I asked him where he got it. He
told from an old guy like you that was afraid to drive it
anymore. I asked him what he paid, if he didn't mine telling
me. He told me, 50K in 1999 with 14K on the clock. I ask for
permission to truck it up to Pocono raceway so I could evaluate
it off the highway. He said NO, lets drive there. I made a few
phone calls and about an hour later I was flying around the track
at 150 MPH for two laps. I was thinking, what I life I lead, how
many car guys ever get to see a Testarossa let along drive one at
150 MPH on a race track with the owner telling me to "It will go
a lot faster," with a $1,000 check in my pocket for performing
the evaluation??

On the way back he asked me what I thought it was worth.
I told him I needed to consult with the dealership owners.
When we got back to the dealership there was a big orange covered
tractor trailer sitting on the lot. There must have been twenty
dealership employees, some taking pictures and a few dozen
customers and a two local police officers standing around the
van. I thought maybe the truck ran over somebody because NOBODY
even looked at the Ferrari as we drove on the lot, strange.

I soon discovered why we went unnoticed. The van was dropping of
their Ford GT. There were still three on the van since we could
see when the driver open the side door. The one the dealership
got was a red with white stripes that add $7,000 to the sticker
total of near $160,000. The driver dropped a gate from the back
of the truck that went straight back, backed the GT unto that
ramp then lowered the car to the ground. No taking that thing
over and pitched ramps it seems. As soon as he was off the ramp
he asked the assembled who it responsible for receiving this
car? The Poor Sales Manager, who probably never saw a car in the
dealership worth more then 50K said I guess I am. As he walked
over to sign the delivery form I said, "Don't you think you
should do the check in process first?" Every one ot the
employees was afraid to drive the GT and nobody knew where to put
it. I offered to ask the dealer since I was going to call him
anyway. He told me to take it over to *** building (where the
group stores the expensive brands they sell.) I suggested 50K
for the Testarossa and 65K retail but he said I just had a call
from a guy in Oklahoma, seems the delivery schedule for all Ford
GT's is available to dealers all over the country, offering
$225,000 and no trade. Ford is only building 1,500 GT this ones
number was just over 700 The Testarossa was a 16 year old model
but its like new. In my opinion the guys at Ferrari should drive
a supercharged V8 Ford GT before they build anymore $250,000 cars

I could not believe my good luck. Not only did I get to drive
the Testarossa, I was also getting to drive the GT for nearly 25
miles. Most people will never get to see cars like this in their
lifetime and here I was getting
to not only see TWO of the greatest cars ever built, on the same
day, and I'm getting to DRIVE them as well and
on the same day. Wait till I see my friend Mario. We raced on
the old dirt track in Nazareth but HE got to race and win in cars
like this all over the world when we were 50 years younger. ;)


mike hunt
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Bob Urz 19 April 2005 09:57:57 [ permanent link ]
 

BenDover@mailcity.c­om wrote:
Today I had the ultimate experience any car guy can have. Before> I started my fleet service business I was Group Sales Manager for> one of the largest megadealerships on the east coast. We sold> just about any brand you can name. One of them was not Ferrari> but when I was still racing, in the sixties, among the cars I got> to drive was a Ferrari.>
One of the partners called me and ask me to evaluate a Testarossa> that a customer wanted to trade on a Ford GT that was scheduled> to arrive at one of the groups Ford dealers. I said sure, who> would not want to drive a Testarossa. I drove down to the> dealership and there sat a mint 89 Testarossa with 19K on the> clock. The owner was a 28 year old guy that worked as one of the> Super tech at one of the groups MB dealerships, about 50 miles> away. I put the car on the lift, gave it the one over, top and> bottom. It indeed was mint. I asked him where he got it. He> told from an old guy like you that was afraid to drive it> anymore. I asked him what he paid, if he didn't mine telling> me. He told me, 50K in 1999 with 14K on the clock. I ask for> permission to truck it up to Pocono raceway so I could evaluate> it off the highway. He said NO, lets drive there. I made a few> phone calls and about an hour later I was flying around the track> at 150 MPH for two laps. I was thinking, what I life I lead, how> many car guys ever get to see a Testarossa let along drive one at> 150 MPH on a race track with the owner telling me to "It will go> a lot faster," with a $1,000 check in my pocket for performing> the evaluation??>
On the way back he asked me what I thought it was worth.> I told him I needed to consult with the dealership owners.> When we got back to the dealership there was a big orange covered> tractor trailer sitting on the lot. There must have been twenty> dealership employees, some taking pictures and a few dozen> customers and a two local police officers standing around the> van. I thought maybe the truck ran over somebody because NOBODY> even looked at the Ferrari as we drove on the lot, strange.>
I soon discovered why we went unnoticed. The van was dropping of> their Ford GT. There were still three on the van since we could> see when the driver open the side door. The one the dealership> got was a red with white stripes that add $7,000 to the sticker> total of near $160,000. The driver dropped a gate from the back> of the truck that went straight back, backed the GT unto that> ramp then lowered the car to the ground. No taking that thing> over and pitched ramps it seems. As soon as he was off the ramp> he asked the assembled who it responsible for receiving this> car? The Poor Sales Manager, who probably never saw a car in the> dealership worth more then 50K said I guess I am. As he walked> over to sign the delivery form I said, "Don't you think you> should do the check in process first?" Every one ot the> employees was afraid to drive the GT and nobody knew where to put> it. I offered to ask the dealer since I was going to call him> anyway. He told me to take it over to *** building (where the> group stores the expensive brands they sell.) I suggested 50K> for the Testarossa and 65K retail but he said I just had a call> from a guy in Oklahoma, seems the delivery schedule for all Ford> GT's is available to dealers all over the country, offering> $225,000 and no trade. Ford is only building 1,500 GT this ones> number was just over 700 The Testarossa was a 16 year old model> but its like new. In my opinion the guys at Ferrari should drive> a supercharged V8 Ford GT before they build anymore $250,000 cars>
I could not believe my good luck. Not only did I get to drive> the Testarossa, I was also getting to drive the GT for nearly 25> miles. Most people will never get to see cars like this in their> lifetime and here I was getting> to not only see TWO of the greatest cars ever built, on the same> day, and I'm getting to DRIVE them as well and> on the same day. Wait till I see my friend Mario. We raced on> the old dirt track in Nazareth but HE got to race and win in cars> like this all over the world when we were 50 years younger. ;)>
mike hunt

You can die now (and leave me your mustang ) ;)

Bob


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Guest 19 April 2005 19:06:54 [ permanent link ]
 My grandchildren have established the disposition of my current
Mustang convertible upon my demise LOL


mike hunt


BOB URZ wrote:>
BenDover@mailcity.c­om wrote:>
Today I had the ultimate experience any car guy can have. Before> > I started my fleet service business I was Group Sales Manager for> > one of the largest megadealerships on the east coast. We sold> > just about any brand you can name. One of them was not Ferrari> > but when I was still racing, in the sixties, among the cars I got> > to drive was a Ferrari.> >
One of the partners called me and ask me to evaluate a Testarossa> > that a customer wanted to trade on a Ford GT that was scheduled> > to arrive at one of the groups Ford dealers. I said sure, who> > would not want to drive a Testarossa. I drove down to the> > dealership and there sat a mint 89 Testarossa with 19K on the> > clock. The owner was a 28 year old guy that worked as one of the> > Super tech at one of the groups MB dealerships, about 50 miles> > away. I put the car on the lift, gave it the one over, top and> > bottom. It indeed was mint. I asked him where he got it. He> > told from an old guy like you that was afraid to drive it> > anymore. I asked him what he paid, if he didn't mine telling> > me. He told me, 50K in 1999 with 14K on the clock. I ask for> > permission to truck it up to Pocono raceway so I could evaluate> > it off the highway. He said NO, lets drive there. I made a few> > phone calls and about an hour later I was flying around the track> > at 150 MPH for two laps. I was thinking, what I life I lead, how> > many car guys ever get to see a Testarossa let along drive one at> > 150 MPH on a race track with the owner telling me to "It will go> > a lot faster," with a $1,000 check in my pocket for performing> > the evaluation??> >
On the way back he asked me what I thought it was worth.> > I told him I needed to consult with the dealership owners.> > When we got back to the dealership there was a big orange covered> > tractor trailer sitting on the lot. There must have been twenty> > dealership employees, some taking pictures and a few dozen> > customers and a two local police officers standing around the> > van. I thought maybe the truck ran over somebody because NOBODY> > even looked at the Ferrari as we drove on the lot, strange.> >
I soon discovered why we went unnoticed. The van was dropping of> > their Ford GT. There were still three on the van since we could> > see when the driver open the side door. The one the dealership> > got was a red with white stripes that add $7,000 to the sticker> > total of near $160,000. The driver dropped a gate from the back> > of the truck that went straight back, backed the GT unto that> > ramp then lowered the car to the ground. No taking that thing> > over and pitched ramps it seems. As soon as he was off the ramp> > he asked the assembled who it responsible for receiving this> > car? The Poor Sales Manager, who probably never saw a car in the> > dealership worth more then 50K said I guess I am. As he walked> > over to sign the delivery form I said, "Don't you think you> > should do the check in process first?" Every one ot the> > employees was afraid to drive the GT and nobody knew where to put> > it. I offered to ask the dealer since I was going to call him> > anyway. He told me to take it over to *** building (where the> > group stores the expensive brands they sell.) I suggested 50K> > for the Testarossa and 65K retail but he said I just had a call> > from a guy in Oklahoma, seems the delivery schedule for all Ford> > GT's is available to dealers all over the country, offering> > $225,000 and no trade. Ford is only building 1,500 GT this ones> > number was just over 700 The Testarossa was a 16 year old model> > but its like new. In my opinion the guys at Ferrari should drive> > a supercharged V8 Ford GT before they build anymore $250,000 cars> >
I could not believe my good luck. Not only did I get to drive> > the Testarossa, I was also getting to drive the GT for nearly 25> > miles. Most people will never get to see cars like this in their> > lifetime and here I was getting> > to not only see TWO of the greatest cars ever built, on the same> > day, and I'm getting to DRIVE them as well and> > on the same day. Wait till I see my friend Mario. We raced on> > the old dirt track in Nazareth but HE got to race and win in cars> > like this all over the world when we were 50 years younger. ;)> >
mike hunt>
You can die now (and leave me your mustang ) ;)>
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Guest 19 April 2005 19:40:59 [ permanent link ]
 Today I had the ultimate experience any car guy can have. Before
I started my fleet service business I was Group Sales Manager for
one of the largest megadealerships on the east coast. We sold
just about any brand you can name. One of them was not Ferrari
but when I was still racing, in the sixties, among the cars I got
to drive was a Ferrari.

One of the partners called me and ask me to evaluate a Testarossa
that a customer wanted to trade on a Ford GT that was scheduled
to arrive at one of the groups Ford dealers. I said sure, who
would not want to drive a Testarossa. I drove down to the
dealership and there sat a mint 89 Testarossa with 19K on the
clock. The owner was a 28 year old guy that worked as one of the
Super tech at one of the groups MB dealerships, about 50 miles
away. I put the car on the lift, gave it the one over, top and
bottom. It indeed was mint. I asked him where he got it. He
told from an old guy like you that was afraid to drive it
anymore. I asked him what he paid, if he didn't mine telling
me. He told me, 50K in 1999 with 14K on the clock. I ask for
permission to truck it up to Pocono raceway so I could evaluate
it off the highway. He said NO, lets drive there. I made a few
phone calls and about an hour later I was flying around the track
at 150 MPH for two laps. I was thinking, what I life I lead, how
many car guys ever get to see a Testarossa let along drive one at
150 MPH on a race track with the owner telling me to "It will go
a lot faster," with a $1,000 check in my pocket for performing
the evaluation??

On the way back he asked me what I thought it was worth.
I told him I needed to consult with the dealership owners.
When we got back to the dealership there was a big orange covered
tractor trailer sitting on the lot. There must have been twenty
dealership employees, some taking pictures and a dozen customers
and a two local police officers standing around the van. I
thought maybe the truck ran over somebody because NOBODY even
looked at the Ferrari as we drove on the lot, strange.

I soon discovered why we went unnoticed. The van was dropping of
their Ford GT. There were still three on the van since we could
see when the driver open the side door. The one the dealership
got was a red with white stripes that add $7,000 to the sticker
total of near $160,000. The driver dropped a gate from the back
of the truck that went straight back, backed the GT unto that
ramp then lowered the car to the ground. No taking that thing
over and pitched ramps it seems. As soon as he was off the ramp
he asked the assembled who it responsible for receiving this
car? The Poor Sales Manager, who probably never saw a car in the
dealership worth more then 50K said I guess I am. As he walked
over to sign the delivery form I said, "Don't you think you
should do the check in process first?" Every one ot the
employees was afraid to drive the GT and nobody knew where to put
it. I offered to ask the dealer since I was going to call him
anyway. He told me to take it to the *** building (where the
group stores the expensive brands they sell.) I suggested 50K
for the Testarossa and 65K retail but he said I just had a call
from a guy in Oklahoma, seems the delivery schedule for all Ford
GT's is available to dealers all over the country, offering
$225,000 and no trade. Ford is only building 1,500 GT this ones
number was just over 700 The Testarossa was a 16 year old model
but its like new. In my opinion the guys at Ferrari should drive
a supercharged V8 Ford GT before they build anymore $250,000 cars

I could not believe my good luck. Not only did I get to drive
the Testarossa, I was also getting to drive the GT for nearly 25
miles. Most people will never get to see cars like this in their
lifetime and here I was getting
to not only see TWO of the greatest cars ever built, on the same
day, and I'm getting to DRIVE them as well and
on the same day. Wait till I see my friend Mario. We raced on
the old dirt track in Nazareth but HE got to race and win in cars
like this all over the world when we were 50 years younger. ;)


mike hunt
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Bob Urz 19 April 2005 21:12:50 [ permanent link ]
 

BenDover@mailcity.c­om wrote:
My grandchildren have established the disposition of my current> Mustang convertible upon my demise LOL>
mike hunt>

I worked set-up at a local auto show last january in the Ford booth.
Got to move the cars around during set-up, but they would not let us
drive the GT40. Did get a good look at it though. Just being close
to it and hearing its exhaust note was enough.........

Bob



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Gord Beaman 19 April 2005 22:37:57 [ permanent link ]
 BenDover@mailcity.co­m wrote:
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Wait till I see my friend Mario. We raced on>the old dirt track in Nazareth but HE got to race and win in cars>like this all over the world when we were 50 years younger. ;)>
mike hunt

Y'know 'Mike', I have no real idea whether this is a true story
or not but it's certainly a great yarn and I enjoyed it
immensely. Thanks.

If it -is- true then might I suggest that you use your real
name?...this cutesy cutesy 'handle' merely detracts from people's
impression of you. I hope that wasn't too offensive to you, it
wasn't meant to offend, it's just the way I feel.

--

--Gord
(use gordon in email)

"Without detonation, your car won't
move. That's what makes engines go".

"In my car, the high octane fuel detonates
better than the lower octane grades.
Fortunately for me, it doesn't PREVENT DETONATION".

-Burnore.
Yes, Detonation is a normal condition and >it occurs every time you have ignition, >you really need to get over that!

-Josh
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Art 20 April 2005 00:00:56 [ permanent link ]
 
<BenDover@mailcity.­com> wrote in message
news:4265268B.624A2­1C2@mailcity.com...>­ Today I had the ultimate experience any car guy can have.

Sorry Mike..... my ultimate experience had nothing to do with cars. You
may have missed something in your life.


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Guest 20 April 2005 01:05:21 [ permanent link ]
 I attended a ride and drive for Ford and LM dealer principals at
Pocono several years ago. They had the then new Mustang, 500,
Freestyle and Montego there for us to drive and, as you say, a
pre production GT 40 to look it but we were allowed to sit in
it. Ford is only building 1,500 GT 40s over two years. I'll
wait for the next full generation, built off the basic chassis
with out that motor, which will be a full production car that
will sell for 100K less. Ford has had a silver mule of that car
on the show circuit this year, but the name escapes me for the
moment. There also had a dozen other brands, that would be
competitors to the new Fords, on site that we could drive and
compare to Fords new models. They gave each of us an evaluation
sheet for each car we drove. I suggested they rethink the mix of
GTs and convertibles from the mix of V6s and coupes they had been
building the past few years. Last month Ford increased the planed
Mustang production by 80,000 units, 50,000 of which will be GTs
and convertibles. I remember when I was at a LM dealer principle
meeting in Chicago 1996, when I was still Group SM. I suggest,
since the F150 has been the number one selling vehicle for so
many years, that Ford build a Lincoln luxury version of the
F150. They almost laughed at me. I guess they didn't realize
how many luxury F150s the conversion industry was building and we
were selling for another 10K in our Ford dealerships When they
finally did decided to build a Lincoln truck in the late
nineties, they left the Lincoln division do the design, which
resulted in the ill fated Blackwood. The 2006 Lincoln Mark was
done by the truck guys and Ford and its selling over MSRP in most
markets. Like I tell my children and grand children, who believe
I'm the smartest guy in town, its great to be right ;)


mike hunt



BOB URZ wrote:>
BenDover@mailcity.c­om wrote:>
My grandchildren have established the disposition of my current> > Mustang convertible upon my demise LOL> >
mike hunt> >
I worked set-up at a local auto show last january in the Ford booth.> Got to move the cars around during set-up, but they would not let us> drive the GT40. Did get a good look at it though. Just being close> to it and hearing its exhaust note was enough.........>
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Imminent Vengeance 20 April 2005 01:20:23 [ permanent link ]
 Art wrote:
<BenDover@mailcity.­com> wrote in message > news:4265268B.624A2­1C2@mailcity.com...>­> Today I had the ultimate experience any car guy can have.>
Sorry Mike..... my ultimate experience had nothing to do with cars. You > may have missed something in your life.

In order to experience something in life, he needs a life to begin with.
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Guest 20 April 2005 02:00:39 [ permanent link ]
 Please, we know guys that get their opinions of cars from
Consumer Reports are not car guys. We don't expect your type to
understand. ;)


mike hunt



Art wrote:>
<BenDover@mailcity.­com> wrote in message> news:4265268B.624A2­1C2@mailcity.com...>­ > Today I had the ultimate experience any car guy can have.>
Sorry Mike..... my ultimate experience had nothing to do with cars. You> may have missed something in your life.
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Guest 20 April 2005 02:58:38 [ permanent link ]
 Only a fool would use their real name or address in a NG for
obvious reasons. Mike hunt is somewhat close to my real name and
easier to remember. The names on the 'From' line are those used
by the station through which I access the NGs while conversing
via satellite to that station. I rarely ever post a new message
in a NG. Normally I only reply to things that I read in them
that I know not to be correct. I thought many car guys would
appreciate hearing about that rare type of event. Whether
anybody chooses to believe what I post is up to them, I could not
care less. I spend only a few minutes at a time in a NG, why
would I take the time or need to post something like that if it
were not true? I'm 79 and the good Lord has given me a long
successful life. I've worked in mostly high profile positions
for over 55 years in all aspect of the automotive industry,
manufacturing, retail, and service. I've been active in politics,
have a son that is a State Senator, one son that is a well
renowned Heart Surgeon. My name and picture was, at one point in
my life, in several Automotive magazines. The walls of my office
are covered with pictures of me with politicians and many famous
prominent people, names you would know, even with three
Presidents. I could write a book about my life that would surly
sell well and my children have urged me to do just that. To
reveal myself in a NG would not be in me or my families best
interest.


mike hunt



Gord Beaman wrote:>
BenDover@mailcity.c­om wrote:> snip>
Wait till I see my friend Mario. We raced on> >the old dirt track in Nazareth but HE got to race and win in cars> >like this all over the world when we were 50 years younger. ;)> >
mike hunt>
Y'know 'Mike', I have no real idea whether this is a true story> or not but it's certainly a great yarn and I enjoyed it> immensely. Thanks.>
If it -is- true then might I suggest that you use your real> name?...this cutesy cutesy 'handle' merely detracts from people's> impression of you. I hope that wasn't too offensive to you, it> wasn't meant to offend, it's just the way I feel.>
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Jor 20 April 2005 04:06:38 [ permanent link ]
 Great story. What a day!
jor
<BenDover@mailcity.­com> wrote in message
news:4265268B.624A2­1C2@mailcity.com...>­ Today I had the ultimate experience any car guy can have. Before> I started my fleet service business I was Group Sales Manager for> one of the largest megadealerships on the east coast. We sold> just about any brand you can name. One of them was not Ferrari> but when I was still racing, in the sixties, among the cars I got> to drive was a Ferrari.>
One of the partners called me and ask me to evaluate a Testarossa> that a customer wanted to trade on a Ford GT that was scheduled> to arrive at one of the groups Ford dealers. I said sure, who> would not want to drive a Testarossa. I drove down to the> dealership and there sat a mint 89 Testarossa with 19K on the> clock. The owner was a 28 year old guy that worked as one of the> Super tech at one of the groups MB dealerships, about 50 miles> away. I put the car on the lift, gave it the one over, top and> bottom. It indeed was mint. I asked him where he got it. He> told from an old guy like you that was afraid to drive it> anymore. I asked him what he paid, if he didn't mine telling> me. He told me, 50K in 1999 with 14K on the clock. I ask for> permission to truck it up to Pocono raceway so I could evaluate> it off the highway. He said NO, lets drive there. I made a few> phone calls and about an hour later I was flying around the track> at 150 MPH for two laps. I was thinking, what I life I lead, how> many car guys ever get to see a Testarossa let along drive one at> 150 MPH on a race track with the owner telling me to "It will go> a lot faster," with a $1,000 check in my pocket for performing> the evaluation??>
On the way back he asked me what I thought it was worth.> I told him I needed to consult with the dealership owners.> When we got back to the dealership there was a big orange covered> tractor trailer sitting on the lot. There must have been twenty> dealership employees, some taking pictures and a dozen customers> and a two local police officers standing around the van. I> thought maybe the truck ran over somebody because NOBODY even> looked at the Ferrari as we drove on the lot, strange.>
I soon discovered why we went unnoticed. The van was dropping of> their Ford GT. There were still three on the van since we could> see when the driver open the side door. The one the dealership> got was a red with white stripes that add $7,000 to the sticker> total of near $160,000. The driver dropped a gate from the back> of the truck that went straight back, backed the GT unto that> ramp then lowered the car to the ground. No taking that thing> over and pitched ramps it seems. As soon as he was off the ramp> he asked the assembled who it responsible for receiving this> car? The Poor Sales Manager, who probably never saw a car in the> dealership worth more then 50K said I guess I am. As he walked> over to sign the delivery form I said, "Don't you think you> should do the check in process first?" Every one ot the> employees was afraid to drive the GT and nobody knew where to put> it. I offered to ask the dealer since I was going to call him> anyway. He told me to take it to the *** building (where the> group stores the expensive brands they sell.) I suggested 50K> for the Testarossa and 65K retail but he said I just had a call> from a guy in Oklahoma, seems the delivery schedule for all Ford> GT's is available to dealers all over the country, offering> $225,000 and no trade. Ford is only building 1,500 GT this ones> number was just over 700 The Testarossa was a 16 year old model> but its like new. In my opinion the guys at Ferrari should drive> a supercharged V8 Ford GT before they build anymore $250,000 cars>
I could not believe my good luck. Not only did I get to drive> the Testarossa, I was also getting to drive the GT for nearly 25> miles. Most people will never get to see cars like this in their> lifetime and here I was getting> to not only see TWO of the greatest cars ever built, on the same> day, and I'm getting to DRIVE them as well and> on the same day. Wait till I see my friend Mario. We raced on> the old dirt track in Nazareth but HE got to race and win in cars> like this all over the world when we were 50 years younger. ;)>
mike hunt


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Gord Beaman 20 April 2005 05:45:15 [ permanent link ]
 MelvinGibson@mailcit­y.com wrote:
Only a fool would use their real name or address in a NG for>obvious reasons.

Well, guess that about tells the story then doesn't it?

Most of us who do use our real names are not fools but then of
course we have nothing to hide.

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move. That's what makes engines go".

"In my car, the high octane fuel detonates
better than the lower octane grades.
Fortunately for me, it doesn't PREVENT DETONATION".

-Burnore.
Yes, Detonation is a normal condition and >it occurs every time you have ignition, >you really need to get over that!

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Bruce L . Bergman 20 April 2005 10:30:14 [ permanent link ]
 On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:54:35 -0500, "Ray O"
<rokigawa@tristaras­sociatesDOT.com> wrote:
<BenDover@mailcity­.com> wrote in message
His wife oohs and aahs, gets in the driver's seat, and at that moment, Fred >remembered that his wife didn't know how to drive a stick shift. I wouldn't >be surprised if that car is still sitting in their garage

A perfect recovery would be: "It's yours, honey. But first I need
to take you out in the Camry for a few weeks to teach you how to drive
a stick. And when you get that down, we'll go together for a
his-and-hers Bob Bondurant Driving School course to learn how to drive
this little beastie."

(The part he DOES NOT say out loud: "We'll let you learn to drive
stick in a car where a simple clutch job costs $400, not $8,000.")

The shocker would be, she'd get it on the first try, and he'd be
mowing down hay bales all over the road course through overconfidence
for the first few days. Ladies tend to listen to their teacher
(Gasp!), but for guys Testosterone & Machismo often overrides common
sense - at least until they get it shoved in their face a few times.

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Ray O 20 April 2005 19:48:10 [ permanent link ]
 
"Bruce L. Bergman" <blPYTHONbergman@ea­rthlink.invalid> wrote in message
news:orsb61lpqos40t­hen0b489079t6pljk16a­@4ax.com...> On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:54:35 -0500, "Ray O"> <rokigawa@tristaras­sociatesDOT.com> wrote:>
<BenDover@mailcit­y.com> wrote in message>
His wife oohs and aahs, gets in the driver's seat, and at that moment, >>Fred>>remembered that his wife didn't know how to drive a stick shift. I >>wouldn't>>be surprised if that car is still sitting in their garage>
A perfect recovery would be: "It's yours, honey. But first I need> to take you out in the Camry for a few weeks to teach you how to drive> a stick. And when you get that down, we'll go together for a> his-and-hers Bob Bondurant Driving School course to learn how to drive> this little beastie.">
(The part he DOES NOT say out loud: "We'll let you learn to drive> stick in a car where a simple clutch job costs $400, not $8,000.")>
The shocker would be, she'd get it on the first try, and he'd be> mowing down hay bales all over the road course through overconfidence> for the first few days. Ladies tend to listen to their teacher> (Gasp!), but for guys Testosterone & Machismo often overrides common> sense - at least until they get it shoved in their face a few times.>
--<< Bruce >>--

This guy had more money than he knew what to do with so the thing that
struck me when he told me the story was that he made a bigger point of
wasting a day shopping for a gift that she didn't use than letting a car
that cost more than most people's houses at the time collect dust in the
garage. Oh well, the rest of us can only dream!
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Art 22 April 2005 03:46:31 [ permanent link ]
 
"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristaras­sociatesDOT.com> wrote in message
news:cd7a2$42667bfb­$44a4a10d$28751@msgi­d.meganewsservers.co­m...>
"Bruce L. Bergman" <blPYTHONbergman@ea­rthlink.invalid> wrote in message > news:orsb61lpqos40t­hen0b489079t6pljk16a­@4ax.com...>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:54:35 -0500, "Ray O">> <rokigawa@tristaras­sociatesDOT.com> wrote:>>
<BenDover@mailci­ty.com> wrote in message>>
His wife oohs and aahs, gets in the driver's seat, and at that moment, >>>Fred>>>remembere­d that his wife didn't know how to drive a stick shift. I >>>wouldn't>>>be surprised if that car is still sitting in their garage>>
A perfect recovery would be: "It's yours, honey. But first I need>> to take you out in the Camry for a few weeks to teach you how to drive>> a stick. And when you get that down, we'll go together for a>> his-and-hers Bob Bondurant Driving School course to learn how to drive>> this little beastie.">>
(The part he DOES NOT say out loud: "We'll let you learn to drive>> stick in a car where a simple clutch job costs $400, not $8,000.")>>
The shocker would be, she'd get it on the first try, and he'd be>> mowing down hay bales all over the road course through overconfidence>> for the first few days. Ladies tend to listen to their teacher>> (Gasp!), but for guys Testosterone & Machismo often overrides common>> sense - at least until they get it shoved in their face a few times.>>
--<< Bruce >>-->
This guy had more money than he knew what to do with


How about higher tax rates for the rich. That will help cure that problem.


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~' Dbu 22 April 2005 03:55:42 [ permanent link ]
 In article <rXW9e.13452$44.789­3@newsread1.news.atl­.earthlink.net>,
"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE­@mindspring.com> wrote:

How about higher tax rates for the rich. That will help cure that problem.

Does that include Art? Yes or no please sir.
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Guest 22 April 2005 04:13:47 [ permanent link ]
 I believe you are confused, the federal income tax IS a graduated
tax not a flat rate for all taxpayers. Not only do the rich pay
a lot MORE in taxes, the rich also pay taxes at a higher tax RATE
as well. Up to a 38% tax on their income. The top twenty
percent, with incomes over $200,000, pay 80% of all the taxes
received by the federal treasury. Under the new temporary tax
laws, forty nine percent of Americans pay NO federal income taxes
at all.
No matter who tries to tell you that tax cuts went to the rich
the fact is the largest cuts went to the bottom 17%, of those
that do pay federal income taxes. The new Bush tax rate is only
10%, 1/3 less tax than in prior years. Those with children
received an even greater tax cut, many went down to ZERO


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Dizzy 22 April 2005 06:14:21 [ permanent link ]
 On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:13:47 -0400, some stupid top-posting,
nym-shifting troll, currently calling himself MikeHunt2 wrote:
The top twenty>percent, with incomes over $200,000, pay 80% of all the taxes>received by the federal treasury. Under the new temporary tax>laws, forty nine percent of Americans pay NO federal income taxes>at all.

LOL. What a bunch of OBVIOUS bologna. You expect anyone to believe
your ridiculous fairy tales, top-poster? Idiot.

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Scott in Florida 22 April 2005 06:28:14 [ permanent link ]
 On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:46:31 GMT, "Art"
<begunaNOSPAMPLEASE­@mindspring.com> wrote:
"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristaras­sociatesDOT.com> wrote in message >news:cd7a2$42667bf­b$44a4a10d$28751@msg­id.meganewsservers.c­om...>>
"Bruce L. Bergman" <blPYTHONbergman@ea­rthlink.invalid> wrote in message >> news:orsb61lpqos40t­hen0b489079t6pljk16a­@4ax.com...>>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:54:35 -0500, "Ray O">>> <rokigawa@tristaras­sociatesDOT.com> wrote:>>>
<BenDover@mailc­ity.com> wrote in message>>>
His wife oohs and aahs, gets in the driver's seat, and at that moment, >>>>Fred>>>>remembe­red that his wife didn't know how to drive a stick shift. I >>>>wouldn't>>>>be surprised if that car is still sitting in their garage>>>
A perfect recovery would be: "It's yours, honey. But first I need>>> to take you out in the Camry for a few weeks to teach you how to drive>>> a stick. And when you get that down, we'll go together for a>>> his-and-hers Bob Bondurant Driving School course to learn how to drive>>> this little beastie.">>>
(The part he DOES NOT say out loud: "We'll let you learn to drive>>> stick in a car where a simple clutch job costs $400, not $8,000.")>>>
The shocker would be, she'd get it on the first try, and he'd be>>> mowing down hay bales all over the road course through overconfidence>>> for the first few days. Ladies tend to listen to their teacher>>> (Gasp!), but for guys Testosterone & Machismo often overrides common>>> sense - at least until they get it shoved in their face a few times.>>>
--<< Bruce >>-->>
This guy had more money than he knew what to do with>
How about higher tax rates for the rich. That will help cure that problem. >

Communisim...or the Democratic party in the US

Rob from the rich to give to the poor...


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Scott in Florida 22 April 2005 06:59:00 [ permanent link ]
 On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 02:14:21 GMT, dizzy <dizzy@nospam.inval­id> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:13:47 -0400, some stupid top-posting,>nym-sh­ifting troll, currently calling himself MikeHunt2 wrote:>
The top twenty>>percent, with incomes over $200,000, pay 80% of all the taxes>>received by the federal treasury. Under the new temporary tax>>laws, forty nine percent of Americans pay NO federal income taxes>>at all.>
LOL. What a bunch of OBVIOUS bologna. You expect anyone to believe>your ridiculous fairy tales, top-poster? Idiot.


You stepped in it Part 2

Here are the actual IRS records in spread sheet format.

Proof!

http://www.rushlimb­augh.com/home/today.­member.html

Go to the bottom of the page and download the file and weep!

You can go to the IRS site and do the same thing...

YOU....Mr. Ditz have been proven wrong....


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Learning Richard 22 April 2005 07:48:21 [ permanent link ]
 
Scott in Florida wrote:
you stepped in it...>
proof...>
http://www.rushlimb­augh.com/home/menu/n­y_times_top_20__pay_­80__of_taxes_.member­.html>
RUSH: The New York Times has done it again,

<cut />

<cut />

<cut />

Friggen ditto-head. I knew it.


Richard
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Scott in Florida 22 April 2005 15:27:37 [ permanent link ]
 On 21 Apr 2005 20:48:21 -0700, "Learning Richard"
<learningrichard@gm­ail.com> wrote:
Scott in Florida wrote:>
you stepped in it...>>
proof...>>
http://www.rushlim­baugh.com/home/menu/­ny_times_top_20__pay­_80__of_taxes_.membe­r.html>>
RUSH: The New York Times has done it again,>
<cut />>
<cut />>
<cut />>
Friggen ditto-head. I knew it.

ROFL.....read it...'Learning' and you might learn something~!!!!

Richard>------->ww­w.xdnc.com

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Learning Richard 23 April 2005 00:02:45 [ permanent link ]
 
Scott in Florida wrote:> On 21 Apr 2005 20:48:21 -0700, "Learning Richard"> <learningrichard@gm­ail.com> wrote:>
Scott in Florida wrote:> >
you stepped in it...> >>
proof...> >>
http://www.rushlim­baugh.com/home/menu/­ny_times_top_20__pay­_80__of_taxes_.membe­r.html> >>
RUSH: The New York Times has done it again,> >
<cut />> >
<cut />> >
<cut />> >
Friggen ditto-head. I knew it.>
ROFL.....read it...'Learning' and you might learn something~!!!!

I listen to Rush a few times a week. I have been ever since he spoke
jealously of Clinton getting head from Monica Lewinsky.

It is absolutely amazing how naturally hateful he is.


Richard
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Scott in Florida 23 April 2005 03:34:37 [ permanent link ]
 On 22 Apr 2005 13:02:45 -0700, "Learning Richard"
<learningrichard@gm­ail.com> wrote:
Scott in Florida wrote:>> On 21 Apr 2005 20:48:21 -0700, "Learning Richard">> <learningrichard@gm­ail.com> wrote:>>
Scott in Florida wrote:>> >
you stepped in it...>> >>
proof...>> >>
http://www.rushli­mbaugh.com/home/menu­/ny_times_top_20__pa­y_80__of_taxes_.memb­er.html>> >>
RUSH: The New York Times has done it again,>> >
<cut />>> >
<cut />>> >
<cut />>> >
Friggen ditto-head. I knew it.>>
ROFL.....read it...'Learning' and you might learn something~!!!!>
I listen to Rush a few times a week.

What was Rush talking about today?

How about Monday?


I have been ever since he spoke>jealously of Clinton getting head from Monica Lewinsky.

Caught ya in another (shall we say fib?).

It is absolutely amazing how naturally hateful he is.

Nah...he is just a loveable little fuzz ball...

You are the one that spew the hate...

Richard>------->ww­w.xdnc.com

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Lane Walker 23 April 2005 05:44:33 [ permanent link ]
 
Scott in Florida wrote:> On 22 Apr 2005 13:02:45 -0700, "Learning Richard"> <learningrichard@gm­ail.com> wrote:>
I have been ever since he spoke> >jealously of Clinton getting head from Monica Lewinsky.>
Caught ya in another (shall we say fib?).

you don't remember the good old days? He blamed the blowjob for
everything wrong in the country. I didn't catch old butterball boy
this week, or last to be honest... the guy who listened to him moved to
the 3rd floor
It is absolutely amazing how naturally hateful he is.>

Nah...he is just a loveable little

butter
ball...

I won't mention the hypocrisy... I'm sure you will
You are the one that spew the hate...>

I'm not cool like you.
Richard> >-------> >www.xdnc.com>
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Lane Walker 23 April 2005 05:56:07 [ permanent link ]
 
Scott in Florida wrote:> On 22 Apr 2005 13:02:45 -0700, "Learning Richard"> <learningrichard@gm­ail.com> wrote:>
Scott in Florida wrote:> >> On 21 Apr 2005 20:48:21 -0700, "Learning Richard"> >> <learningrichard@gm­ail.com> wrote:> >>
Scott in Florida wrote:> >> >
you stepped in it...> >> >>
proof...> >> >>
http://www.rushli­mbaugh.com/home/menu­/ny_times_top_20__pa­y_80__of_taxes_.memb­er.html> >> >>
RUSH: The New York Times has done it again,> >> >
<cut />> >> >
<cut />> >> >
<cut />> >> >
Friggen ditto-head. I knew it.> >>
ROFL.....read it...'Learning' and you might learn something~!!!!> >
I listen to Rush a few times a week.>
What was Rush talking about today?>
How about Monday?

Let me guess. Nah, I don't care.
Nah...he is just a loveable little

butter
ball...>
You are the one that spew the hate...>

so try falling back on another refrain when you have nothing else to
say Scott, you are trivializing the time that but for this attention
would be better spent.
Richard> >-------> >www.xdnc.com>
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Scott in Florida 23 April 2005 06:23:25 [ permanent link ]
 On 22 Apr 2005 18:56:07 -0700, lane.walker@gmail.c­om wrote:
I listen to Rush a few times a week.>>
What was Rush talking about today?>>
How about Monday?>
Let me guess. Nah, I don't care.

Hmmmm.... first we say.... I listen a number of times a week.

When checked on that one....

What happens?



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