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Re: New Shelby Mustang in Motor Trend
Michael Johnson 23 April 2005 07:14:33
	I expect that 410 hp is an extremely underrated figure. A tuner will have that engine making 600-700 rwhp in the blink of an eye. If it is making 410 hp then Ford has the thing breathing through a soda straw. RichA wrote:> Is it me, or does 410 hp sound kind of low, coming from a> 5.4 litre with a blower? It could be that they are downplaying> the performance figures, but why do that today, the insurers> already nail cars like this? My Mach-1 with it's smaller engine> and no blower is probably and arguably rated at around 330-340hp,> around 300 at the rear wheels so I find it hard to believe the > Shelby is only 410. Apart from that, the car looks> superb, but the $70-$80k U.S. price tag seems a little> high.> -Rich
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RichA 23 April 2005 00:13:00 [ permanent link ]
	Is it me, or does 410 hp sound kind of low, coming from a 5.4 litre with a blower? It could be that they are downplaying the performance figures, but why do that today, the insurers already nail cars like this? My Mach-1 with it's smaller engine and no blower is probably and arguably rated at around 330-340hp, around 300 at the rear wheels so I find it hard to believe the Shelby is only 410. Apart from that, the car looks superb, but the $70-$80k U.S. price tag seems a little high. -Rich
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Scotter 23 April 2005 08:47:50 [ permanent link ]
	I agree 410hp for a blown 5.4 seems a bit low. Look at the 2003/?04? Cobra which is a blown 4.6 making ~400 hp. You would think beefing it up to 5.4 would put it more around 470 hp... Is that 5.4 going to be 16 or 32 valve? Maybe it is just a 16-valve and that would explain it... ? On the optimistic side, maybe they are using very little boost and also tuning it conservative so that it is a very dependable and long-lasting engine. And maybe the torque numbers/curve is super impressive? -- Scotter 96 GT vert "RichA" <none@none.com> wrote in message news:ggmi611gkm42qnjou8lqufkj8vv4fn57kd@4ax.com...> Is it me, or does 410 hp sound kind of low, coming from a> 5.4 litre with a blower? It could be that they are downplaying> the performance figures, but why do that today, the insurers> already nail cars like this? My Mach-1 with it's smaller engine> and no blower is probably and arguably rated at around 330-340hp,> around 300 at the rear wheels so I find it hard to believe the> Shelby is only 410. Apart from that, the car looks> superb, but the $70-$80k U.S. price tag seems a little> high.> -Rich
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Brent P 23 April 2005 09:19:29 [ permanent link ]
	In article <ggmi611gkm42qnjou8lqufkj8vv4fn57kd@4ax.com>, RichA wrote:> superb, but the $70-$80k U.S. price tag seems a little> high. If that's the price forget it. It's still carrying over quite a bit from the basic 6 cylinder car, and the competition in that price range doesn't force people to put up with that. $40K is pushing the acceptable limit for this car, regardless of how good the engine is.
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Dwight 23 April 2005 17:14:27 [ permanent link ]
	<NoOption5L@aol.com> wrote in message news:1114222087.213405.102010@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...> RichA wrote:> Rich,> Horsepower numbers are like badges, they don't mean a thing. It's all> about the performance, and that Shelby is going to perform! It will be> able suck up your Mach 1 and spit it out.> As for the price, it's listed at $39,999.> Patrick> '93 Cobra I want to meet the man who picks one up for $39,999. dwight '93 non-Cobra
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Fclaugus 23 April 2005 19:21:08 [ permanent link ]
	Autoweek's figures are a bit different... 2007 FORD SHELBY COBRA GT500 ON SALE: June 2006 BASE PRICE: $39,000 (est.) POWERTRAIN: 5.4-liter, 450-plus-hp, 450-plus-lb-ft supercharged V8; rwd, six-speed manual CURB WEIGHT: 3600 lbs (est.) 0 to 60 MPH: 4.5 seconds (est.) Final horsepower figures are not firm, but Thai-Tang hints it will be "well over 450 hp, closer to 500." Look for 450-plus lb-ft of torque too. http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=102065 "RichA" <none@none.com> wrote in message news:ggmi611gkm42qnjou8lqufkj8vv4fn57kd@4ax.com...> Is it me, or does 410 hp sound kind of low, coming from a> 5.4 litre with a blower? It could be that they are downplaying> the performance figures, but why do that today, the insurers> already nail cars like this? My Mach-1 with it's smaller engine> and no blower is probably and arguably rated at around 330-340hp,> around 300 at the rear wheels so I find it hard to believe the> Shelby is only 410. Apart from that, the car looks> superb, but the $70-$80k U.S. price tag seems a little> high.> -Rich
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SVTKate 24 April 2005 06:02:16 [ permanent link ]
	Do you think they will make it in a Vert???? "fclaugus" <fclaugus@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:EJtae.10372$0d6.6817@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com... \| Autoweek's figures are a bit different... \| \| 2007 FORD SHELBY COBRA GT500 \| ON SALE: June 2006 \| BASE PRICE: $39,000 (est.) \| POWERTRAIN: 5.4-liter, 450-plus-hp, 450-plus-lb-ft supercharged V8; rwd, \| six-speed manual \| CURB WEIGHT: 3600 lbs (est.) \| 0 to 60 MPH: 4.5 seconds (est.) \| \| Final horsepower figures are not firm, but Thai-Tang hints it will be "well \| over 450 hp, closer to 500." Look for 450-plus lb-ft of torque too. \| \| http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=102065 \| \| \| "RichA" <none@none.com> wrote in message \| news:ggmi611gkm42qnjou8lqufkj8vv4fn57kd@4ax.com... \| > Is it me, or does 410 hp sound kind of low, coming from a \| > 5.4 litre with a blower? It could be that they are downplaying \| > the performance figures, but why do that today, the insurers \| > already nail cars like this? My Mach-1 with it's smaller engine \| > and no blower is probably and arguably rated at around 330-340hp, \| > around 300 at the rear wheels so I find it hard to believe the \| > Shelby is only 410. Apart from that, the car looks \| > superb, but the $70-$80k U.S. price tag seems a little \| > high. \| > -Rich \| \|
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Joe 24 April 2005 06:02:17 [ permanent link ]
	Let's hope so. I figure by the time they make the convertible I just might be in the market. "SVTKate" <whoever@whatever.complaint.dept> wrote in news:I6Dae.12361$go4.11421@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net: Do you think they will make it in a Vert????> "fclaugus" <fclaugus@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:EJtae.10372$0d6.6817@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...>\| Autoweek's figures are a bit different...>\|>\| 2007 FORD SHELBY COBRA GT500>\| ON SALE: June 2006>\| BASE PRICE: $39,000 (est.)>\| POWERTRAIN: 5.4-liter, 450-plus-hp, 450-plus-lb-ft supercharged V8;>\| rwd, six-speed manual>\| CURB WEIGHT: 3600 lbs (est.)>\| 0 to 60 MPH: 4.5 seconds (est.)>\|>\| Final horsepower figures are not firm, but Thai-Tang hints it will>\| be > "well>\| over 450 hp, closer to 500." Look for 450-plus lb-ft of torque too.>\|>\| http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=102065>\|>\|>\| "RichA" <none@none.com> wrote in message>\| news:ggmi611gkm42qnjou8lqufkj8vv4fn57kd@4ax.com...>\| > Is it me, or does 410 hp sound kind of low, coming from a>\| > 5.4 litre with a blower? It could be that they are downplaying>\| > the performance figures, but why do that today, the insurers>\| > already nail cars like this? My Mach-1 with it's smaller engine>\| > and no blower is probably and arguably rated at around 330-340hp,>\| > around 300 at the rear wheels so I find it hard to believe the>\| > Shelby is only 410. Apart from that, the car looks>\| > superb, but the $70-$80k U.S. price tag seems a little>\| > high.>\| > -Rich>\|>\| >
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Nicholas D 24 April 2005 22:43:02 [ permanent link ]
	"RichA" <none@none.com> wrote in message news:ggmi611gkm42qnjou8lqufkj8vv4fn57kd@4ax.com...> Is it me, or does 410 hp sound kind of low, coming from a> 5.4 litre with a blower? It could be that they are downplaying> the performance figures, but why do that today, the insurers> already nail cars like this? My Mach-1 with it's smaller engine> and no blower is probably and arguably rated at around 330-340hp,> around 300 at the rear wheels so I find it hard to believe the> Shelby is only 410. Apart from that, the car looks> superb, but the $70-$80k U.S. price tag seems a little> high.> -Rich When I went to the NY Auto Show the Ford rep there said the Shelby would cost around $39k. They are going to produce as many of these cars as the demand will be. Also expect 450 plus hp more towards 500hp as others mentioned in this thread. They wont have sequential tail lights cause the California Special is also returning and will debut with it. -Nick
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