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Re: A Next Camaro Takes A Step Forward?

John 14 April 2005 06:35:48
 <NoOption5L@aol.com>­ wrote in message
news:1113444745.610­028.264660@z14g2000c­wz.googlegroups.com.­..> Sounds good! At least GM is now publically talking about a new Camaro.> Let's keep our fingers crossed.

I wonder what brought this on? Duh!

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Guest 14 April 2005 07:50:23 permanent link ]
 On 13 Apr 2005 20:37:21 -0700, NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:
John wrote:>
Sounds good! At least GM is now publically talking about a new>Camaro.>> > Let's keep our fingers crossed.>
I wonder what brought this on? Duh!>
John,>
You got that right! And you know the enthusiats inside GM have to>whinning like hell about wanting to get a new Camaro built to steal>some of that strong pony car sales.>
Patrick>'93 Cobra

lmfao
real men drive corvettes

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Michael Johnson 14 April 2005 09:56:34 permanent link ]
 If this is GM's strong statement regarding a new Camaro I sure hope the
mullet heads aren't holding their breath waiting on an F-body
replacement. Terms like "working on", "take another look", "could
result" and "It may not be a Camaro" doesn't exactly show a strong
commitment. Sounds like a lot of GM BS to me.

NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:> Sounds good! At least GM is now publically talking about a new Camaro.> Let's keep our fingers crossed.>
---> By Ed Garsten>
General Motors Corp. is working on a new rear-wheel-drive platform that> could be the basis for a vehicle reminiscent of the departed Chevrolet> Camaro and Pontiac Firebird sport coupes.>
"We're going to take another look at high performance rear-wheel> drive," GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said Tuesday at the Society of> Automotive Engineers' 2005 World Congress.>
In March, GM suspended plans to bring out a new generation of> rear-wheel-drive vehicles for the North American market, citing> uncompetitive costs.>
The new platform -- known internally as Zeta -- served as the> underpinnings for the popular Buick Velite concept car that debuted on> the 2004 auto show circuit.>
Jim Queen, GM vice president of global engineering, told The Detroit> News in an interview this week that the automaker is now working on a> rear-wheel-drive platform that would be more cost-effective, and could> result in a Camaro-like vehicle.>
"There's a Camaro hook in all of us," Queen said. "It may not be a> Camaro, but there's a lot of us inside our company and outside our> company that feel very passionate about it.">
Queen said the new platform, or architecture, could be some form of> Zeta or the Sigma rear-wheel-drive architecture used by Cadillac's new> rear-wheel-drive sedans and crossover.>
"It's going to be something I sort of call Zeta-light," Lutz said.>
The Camaro and its twin, the Pontiac Firebird, were favorites of young> drivers who loved tooling around in a powerful, muscle car at a> moderate price.>
But the cars fell from favor in the late 1990s as young consumers> shifted to sport utility vehicles and front-wheel drive passenger cars> and production ended in 2002. > --->
Patrick> '93 Cobra>
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Joe 15 April 2005 04:05:02 permanent link ]
 I thought GM dumped the Zeta platform. We even read it in here
somewhere.

Joe
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies
Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC


"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in
news:F9CdnUhJUpGSm8­PfRVn-rg@comcast.com­:
If this is GM's strong statement regarding a new Camaro I sure hope> the mullet heads aren't holding their breath waiting on an F-body > replacement. Terms like "working on", "take another look", "could > result" and "It may not be a Camaro" doesn't exactly show a strong > commitment. Sounds like a lot of GM BS to me.>
NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:>> Sounds good! At least GM is now publically talking about a new>> Camaro. >> Let's keep our fingers crossed.>>
--->> By Ed Garsten>>
General Motors Corp. is working on a new rear-wheel-drive platform>> that could be the basis for a vehicle reminiscent of the departed>> Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird sport coupes.>>
"We're going to take another look at high performance rear-wheel>> drive," GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said Tuesday at the Society of>> Automotive Engineers' 2005 World Congress.>>
In March, GM suspended plans to bring out a new generation of>> rear-wheel-drive vehicles for the North American market, citing>> uncompetitive costs.>>
The new platform -- known internally as Zeta -- served as the>> underpinnings for the popular Buick Velite concept car that debuted>> on the 2004 auto show circuit.>>
Jim Queen, GM vice president of global engineering, told The>> Detroit News in an interview this week that the automaker is now>> working on a rear-wheel-drive platform that would be more>> cost-effective, and could result in a Camaro-like vehicle.>>
"There's a Camaro hook in all of us," Queen said. "It may not be a>> Camaro, but there's a lot of us inside our company and outside our>> company that feel very passionate about it.">>
Queen said the new platform, or architecture, could be some form of>> Zeta or the Sigma rear-wheel-drive architecture used by Cadillac's>> new rear-wheel-drive sedans and crossover.>>
"It's going to be something I sort of call Zeta-light," Lutz said.>>
The Camaro and its twin, the Pontiac Firebird, were favorites of>> young drivers who loved tooling around in a powerful, muscle car at>> a moderate price.>>
But the cars fell from favor in the late 1990s as young consumers>> shifted to sport utility vehicles and front-wheel drive passenger>> cars and production ended in 2002. >> --->>
Patrick>> '93 Cobra>>

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Joe 15 April 2005 06:01:13 permanent link ]
 Sorry to answer my own post, but I knew I read that the Zeta platform
was dead:
http://www.forbes.c­om/home/columnists/2­005/03/25/cz_jf_0325­flint.html
http://www.detnews.­com/2005/autosinside­r/0503/21/A01-123402­.htm

Joe
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies
Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC


Joe <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in news:OyD7e.78868$wo­1.24219
@bignews6.bellsouth­.net:
I thought GM dumped the Zeta platform. We even read it in here > somewhere.>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies> Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>
"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in> news:F9CdnUhJUpGSm8­PfRVn-rg@comcast.com­: >
If this is GM's strong statement regarding a new Camaro I sure hope>> the mullet heads aren't holding their breath waiting on an F-body >> replacement. Terms like "working on", "take another look", "could >> result" and "It may not be a Camaro" doesn't exactly show a strong >> commitment. Sounds like a lot of GM BS to me.>>
NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:>>> Sounds good! At least GM is now publically talking about a new>>> Camaro. >>> Let's keep our fingers crossed.>>>
--->>> By Ed Garsten>>>
General Motors Corp. is working on a new rear-wheel-drive platform>>> that could be the basis for a vehicle reminiscent of the departed>>> Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird sport coupes.>>>
"We're going to take another look at high performance rear-wheel>>> drive," GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said Tuesday at the Society of>>> Automotive Engineers' 2005 World Congress.>>>
In March, GM suspended plans to bring out a new generation of>>> rear-wheel-drive vehicles for the North American market, citing>>> uncompetitive costs.>>>
The new platform -- known internally as Zeta -- served as the>>> underpinnings for the popular Buick Velite concept car that
debuted>>> on the 2004 auto show circuit.>>>
Jim Queen, GM vice president of global engineering, told The>>> Detroit News in an interview this week that the automaker is now>>> working on a rear-wheel-drive platform that would be more>>> cost-effective, and could result in a Camaro-like vehicle.>>>
"There's a Camaro hook in all of us," Queen said. "It may not be a>>> Camaro, but there's a lot of us inside our company and outside our>>> company that feel very passionate about it.">>>
Queen said the new platform, or architecture, could be some form
Zeta or the Sigma rear-wheel-drive architecture used by Cadillac's>>> new rear-wheel-drive sedans and crossover.>>>
"It's going to be something I sort of call Zeta-light," Lutz said.>>>
The Camaro and its twin, the Pontiac Firebird, were favorites of>>> young drivers who loved tooling around in a powerful, muscle car
a moderate price.>>>
But the cars fell from favor in the late 1990s as young consumers>>> shifted to sport utility vehicles and front-wheel drive passenger>>> cars and production ended in 2002. >>> --->>>
Patrick>>> '93 Cobra>>>

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Michael Johnson 15 April 2005 09:20:18 permanent link ]
 I thought the same thing when I read the article but was too lazy to
check it out on Google. This must be an old story.

Joe wrote:> Sorry to answer my own post, but I knew I read that the Zeta platform > was dead:> http://www.forbes.c­om/home/columnists/2­005/03/25/cz_jf_0325­flint.html> http://www.detnews.­com/2005/autosinside­r/0503/21/A01-123402­.htm>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies> Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>
Joe <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in news:OyD7e.78868$wo­1.24219> @bignews6.bellsouth­.net:>
I thought GM dumped the Zeta platform. We even read it in here >>somewhere.>>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>>Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>
"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in>>news:F9CdnUhJUp­GSm8PfRVn-rg@comcast­.com: >>
If this is GM's strong statement regarding a new Camaro I sure hope>>>the mullet heads aren't holding their breath waiting on an F-body >>>replacement. Terms like "working on", "take another look", "could >>>result" and "It may not be a Camaro" doesn't exactly show a strong >>>commitment. Sounds like a lot of GM BS to me.>>>
NoOption5L@aol.c­om wrote:>>>
Sounds good! At least GM is now publically talking about a new>>>>Camaro. >>>> Let's keep our fingers crossed.>>>>
--->>>>By Ed Garsten>>>>
General Motors Corp. is working on a new rear-wheel-drive platform>>>>that could be the basis for a vehicle reminiscent of the departed>>>>Chevrol­et Camaro and Pontiac Firebird sport coupes.>>>>
"We're going to take another look at high performance rear-wheel>>>>drive­," GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said Tuesday at the Society of>>>>Automotive Engineers' 2005 World Congress.>>>>
In March, GM suspended plans to bring out a new generation of>>>>rear-wheel-dr­ive vehicles for the North American market, citing>>>>uncompeti­tive costs.>>>>
The new platform -- known internally as Zeta -- served as the>>>>underpinning­s for the popular Buick Velite concept car that >
debuted>
on the 2004 auto show circuit.>>>>
Jim Queen, GM vice president of global engineering, told The>>>>Detroit News in an interview this week that the automaker is now>>>>working on a rear-wheel-drive platform that would be more>>>>cost-effect­ive, and could result in a Camaro-like vehicle.>>>>
"There's a Camaro hook in all of us," Queen said. "It may not be a>>>>Camaro, but there's a lot of us inside our company and outside our>>>>company that feel very passionate about it.">>>>
Queen said the new platform, or architecture, could be some form >
Zeta or the Sigma rear-wheel-drive architecture used by Cadillac's>>>>new rear-wheel-drive sedans and crossover.>>>>
"It's going to be something I sort of call Zeta-light," Lutz said.>>>>
The Camaro and its twin, the Pontiac Firebird, were favorites of>>>>young drivers who loved tooling around in a powerful, muscle car >
a moderate price.>>>>
But the cars fell from favor in the late 1990s as young consumers>>>>shifte­d to sport utility vehicles and front-wheel drive passenger>>>>cars and production ended in 2002. >>>>--->>>>
Patrick>>>>'93 Cobra>>>>
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Joe 15 April 2005 14:59:01 permanent link ]
 The stories in the links I posted are about 3 weeks old.

BTW, Michael, I have to ask you a couple questions about engineering.
My son's a high school soph interested in getting into that field.
I'll send you an e-mail later on.

Joe
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies
Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC


"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in
news:nq2dnTD35N6S0s­LfRVn-hQ@comcast.com­:
I thought the same thing when I read the article but was too lazy to > check it out on Google. This must be an old story.>
Joe wrote:>> Sorry to answer my own post, but I knew I read that the Zeta
platform >> was dead:>> http://www.forbes.c­om/home/columnists/2­005/03/25/cz_jf_
0325flint.html>> http://www.detnews.­com/2005/autosinside­r/0503/21/A01-123402­.htm>>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>> Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>
Joe <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in news:OyD7e.78868$wo­1.24219>> @bignews6.bellsouth­.net:>>
I thought GM dumped the Zeta platform. We even read it in here >>>somewhere.>>>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>>>Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>>
"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in>>>news:F9CdnUhJU­pGSm8PfRVn-rg@comcas­t.com: >>>
If this is GM's strong statement regarding a new Camaro I sure
hope>>>>the mullet heads aren't holding their breath waiting on an F-body >>>>replacement. Terms like "working on", "take another look", "could >>>>result" and "It may not be a Camaro" doesn't exactly show a strong >>>>commitment. Sounds like a lot of GM BS to me.>>>>
NoOption5L@aol.­com wrote:>>>>
Sounds good! At least GM is now publically talking about a new>>>>>Camaro. >>>>> Let's keep our fingers crossed.>>>>>
--->>>>>By Ed Garsten>>>>>
General Motors Corp. is working on a new rear-wheel-drive
platform>>>>>that could be the basis for a vehicle reminiscent of the departed>>>>>Chevro­let Camaro and Pontiac Firebird sport coupes.>>>>>
"We're going to take another look at high performance rear-wheel>>>>>driv­e," GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said Tuesday at the Society of>>>>>Automotive Engineers' 2005 World Congress.>>>>>
In March, GM suspended plans to bring out a new generation of>>>>>rear-wheel-d­rive vehicles for the North American market, citing>>>>>uncompet­itive costs.>>>>>
The new platform -- known internally as Zeta -- served as the>>>>>underpinnin­gs for the popular Buick Velite concept car that >>
debuted>>
on the 2004 auto show circuit.>>>>>
Jim Queen, GM vice president of global engineering, told The>>>>>Detroit News in an interview this week that the automaker is now>>>>>working on a rear-wheel-drive platform that would be more>>>>>cost-effec­tive, and could result in a Camaro-like vehicle.>>>>>
"There's a Camaro hook in all of us," Queen said. "It may not be
Camaro, but there's a lot of us inside our company and outside
company that feel very passionate about it.">>>>>
Queen said the new platform, or architecture, could be some form >>
Zeta or the Sigma rear-wheel-drive architecture used by
Cadillac's>>>>>new rear-wheel-drive sedans and crossover.>>>>>
"It's going to be something I sort of call Zeta-light," Lutz
said.>>>>>
The Camaro and its twin, the Pontiac Firebird, were favorites of>>>>>young drivers who loved tooling around in a powerful, muscle car >>
a moderate price.>>>>>
But the cars fell from favor in the late 1990s as young consumers>>>>>shift­ed to sport utility vehicles and front-wheel drive passenger>>>>>cars and production ended in 2002. >>>>>--->>>>>
Patrick>>>>>'9­3 Cobra>>>>>

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Guest 15 April 2005 16:51:41 permanent link ]
 Good catch, Joe ;).

-Mike

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"Joe" <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in message
news:JfF7e.65103$vL­3.51479@bignews4.bel­lsouth.net...> Sorry to answer my own post, but I knew I read that the Zeta platform> was dead:> http://www.forbes.c­om/home/columnists/2­005/03/25/cz_jf_0325­flint.html> http://www.detnews.­com/2005/autosinside­r/0503/21/A01-123402­.htm>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies> Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>
Joe <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in news:OyD7e.78868$wo­1.24219> @bignews6.bellsouth­.net:>
I thought GM dumped the Zeta platform. We even read it in here> > somewhere.> >
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies> > Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC> >
"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in> > news:F9CdnUhJUpGSm8­PfRVn-rg@comcast.com­:> >
If this is GM's strong statement regarding a new Camaro I sure hope> >> the mullet heads aren't holding their breath waiting on an F-body> >> replacement. Terms like "working on", "take another look", "could> >> result" and "It may not be a Camaro" doesn't exactly show a strong> >> commitment. Sounds like a lot of GM BS to me.> >>
NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:> >>> Sounds good! At least GM is now publically talking about a new> >>> Camaro.> >>> Let's keep our fingers crossed.> >>>
---> >>> By Ed Garsten> >>>
General Motors Corp. is working on a new rear-wheel-drive platform> >>> that could be the basis for a vehicle reminiscent of the departed> >>> Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird sport coupes.> >>>
"We're going to take another look at high performance rear-wheel> >>> drive," GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said Tuesday at the Society of> >>> Automotive Engineers' 2005 World Congress.> >>>
In March, GM suspended plans to bring out a new generation of> >>> rear-wheel-drive vehicles for the North American market, citing> >>> uncompetitive costs.> >>>
The new platform -- known internally as Zeta -- served as the> >>> underpinnings for the popular Buick Velite concept car that> debuted> >>> on the 2004 auto show circuit.> >>>
Jim Queen, GM vice president of global engineering, told The> >>> Detroit News in an interview this week that the automaker is now> >>> working on a rear-wheel-drive platform that would be more> >>> cost-effective, and could result in a Camaro-like vehicle.> >>>
"There's a Camaro hook in all of us," Queen said. "It may not be a> >>> Camaro, but there's a lot of us inside our company and outside our> >>> company that feel very passionate about it."> >>>
Queen said the new platform, or architecture, could be some form> of> >>> Zeta or the Sigma rear-wheel-drive architecture used by Cadillac's> >>> new rear-wheel-drive sedans and crossover.> >>>
"It's going to be something I sort of call Zeta-light," Lutz said.> >>>
The Camaro and its twin, the Pontiac Firebird, were favorites of> >>> young drivers who loved tooling around in a powerful, muscle car> at> >>> a moderate price.> >>>
But the cars fell from favor in the late 1990s as young consumers> >>> shifted to sport utility vehicles and front-wheel drive passenger> >>> cars and production ended in 2002.> >>> ---> >>>
Patrick> >>> '93 Cobra> >>>


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Michael Johnson 15 April 2005 18:57:47 permanent link ]
 I would be happy to help out. I think you have my email address. If
not, let me know.

I'm glad to see that he is thinking of engineering. IMO, this country
is turning out far too few engineers and we will feel the effects of
this in the upcoming decades. The good side is that the few that do
have a B.S. degree in engineering will be a valuable commodity.

Joe wrote:> The stories in the links I posted are about 3 weeks old.>
BTW, Michael, I have to ask you a couple questions about engineering. > My son's a high school soph interested in getting into that field. > I'll send you an e-mail later on.>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies> Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>
"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in > news:nq2dnTD35N6S0s­LfRVn-hQ@comcast.com­:>
I thought the same thing when I read the article but was too lazy to >>check it out on Google. This must be an old story.>>
Joe wrote:>>
Sorry to answer my own post, but I knew I read that the Zeta >
platform >
0325flint.html>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>>>Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>>
Joe <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in news:OyD7e.78868$wo­1.24219>>>@bignews6.­bellsouth.net:>>>
I thought GM dumped the Zeta platform. We even read it in here >>>>somewhere.>>>>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>>>>Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>>>
"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in>>>>news:F9CdnUhJ­UpGSm8PfRVn-rg@comca­st.com: >>>>
If this is GM's strong statement regarding a new Camaro I sure >
hope>
the mullet heads aren't holding their breath waiting on an F-body >>>>>replacement. Terms like "working on", "take another look", "could >>>>>result" and "It may not be a Camaro" doesn't exactly show a strong >>>>>commitment. Sounds like a lot of GM BS to me.>>>>>
NoOption5L@aol­.com wrote:>>>>>
Sounds good! At least GM is now publically talking about a new>>>>>>Camaro. >>>>>>Let's keep our fingers crossed.>>>>>>
--->>>>>>By Ed Garsten>>>>>>
General Motors Corp. is working on a new rear-wheel-drive >
platform>
that could be the basis for a vehicle reminiscent of the departed>>>>>>Chevr­olet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird sport coupes.>>>>>>
"We're going to take another look at high performance rear-wheel>>>>>>dri­ve," GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said Tuesday at the Society of>>>>>>Automotive Engineers' 2005 World Congress.>>>>>>
In March, GM suspended plans to bring out a new generation of>>>>>>rear-wheel-­drive vehicles for the North American market, citing>>>>>>uncompe­titive costs.>>>>>>
The new platform -- known internally as Zeta -- served as the>>>>>>underpinni­ngs for the popular Buick Velite concept car that >>>
debuted>>>
on the 2004 auto show circuit.>>>>>>
Jim Queen, GM vice president of global engineering, told The>>>>>>Detroit News in an interview this week that the automaker is now>>>>>>working on a rear-wheel-drive platform that would be more>>>>>>cost-effe­ctive, and could result in a Camaro-like vehicle.>>>>>>
"There's a Camaro hook in all of us," Queen said. "It may not be >
Camaro, but there's a lot of us inside our company and outside >
company that feel very passionate about it.">>>>>>
Queen said the new platform, or architecture, could be some form >>>
Zeta or the Sigma rear-wheel-drive architecture used by >
Cadillac's>
new rear-wheel-drive sedans and crossover.>>>>>>
"It's going to be something I sort of call Zeta-light," Lutz >
said.>
The Camaro and its twin, the Pontiac Firebird, were favorites of>>>>>>young drivers who loved tooling around in a powerful, muscle car >>>
a moderate price.>>>>>>
But the cars fell from favor in the late 1990s as young consumers>>>>>>shif­ted to sport utility vehicles and front-wheel drive passenger>>>>>>cars­ and production ended in 2002. >>>>>>--->>>>>>
Patrick>>>>>>­'93 Cobra>>>>>>
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Joe 15 April 2005 21:06:35 permanent link ]
 Thanks, Michael. Is your correct email the netscape one or the one in
your header below?


"Michael Johnson, PE" <cds@erols.com> wrote in
news:ep6dnftlbPnHS8­LfRVn-1w@comcast.com­:
I would be happy to help out. I think you have my email address. > If not, let me know.>
I'm glad to see that he is thinking of engineering. IMO, this> country is turning out far too few engineers and we will feel the> effects of this in the upcoming decades. The good side is that the> few that do have a B.S. degree in engineering will be a valuable> commodity. >
Joe wrote:>> The stories in the links I posted are about 3 weeks old.>>
BTW, Michael, I have to ask you a couple questions about>> engineering. My son's a high school soph interested in getting>> into that field. I'll send you an e-mail later on.>>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>> Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>
"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in >> news:nq2dnTD35N6S0s­LfRVn-hQ@comcast.com­:>>
I thought the same thing when I read the article but was too lazy>>>to check it out on Google. This must be an old story.>>>
Joe wrote:>>>
Sorry to answer my own post, but I knew I read that the Zeta >>
platform >>
0325flint.html>>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>>>>Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>>>
Joe <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in news:OyD7e.78868$wo­1.24219>>>>@bignews6­.bellsouth.net:>>>>
I thought GM dumped the Zeta platform. We even read it in here >>>>>somewhere.>>>>­>
Calyps­o Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>>>>>Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>>>>
"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in>>>>>news:F9CdnUh­JUpGSm8PfRVn-rg@comc­ast.com: >>>>>
If this is GM's strong statement regarding a new Camaro I sure >>
hope>>
the mullet heads aren't holding their breath waiting on an>>>>>>F-body replacement. Terms like "working on", "take another>>>>>>look",­ "could result" and "It may not be a Camaro" doesn't>>>>>>exactl­y show a strong commitment. Sounds like a lot of GM BS to>>>>>>me. >>>>>>
NoOption5L@ao­l.com wrote:>>>>>>
Sounds good! At least GM is now publically talking about a new>>>>>>>Camaro. >>>>>>>Let's keep our fingers crossed.>>>>>>>
--->>>>>>>By­ Ed Garsten>>>>>>>
General Motors Corp. is working on a new rear-wheel-drive >>
platform>>
that could be the basis for a vehicle reminiscent of the>>>>>>>departed Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird sport coupes.>>>>>>>
"We're going to take another look at high performance>>>>>>>r­ear-wheel drive," GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said Tuesday at>>>>>>>the Society of Automotive Engineers' 2005 World Congress.>>>>>>>
In March, GM suspended plans to bring out a new generation of>>>>>>>rear-wheel­-drive vehicles for the North American market, citing>>>>>>>uncomp­etitive costs.>>>>>>>
The new platform -- known internally as Zeta -- served as the>>>>>>>underpinn­ings for the popular Buick Velite concept car that >>>>
debuted>>>>
on the 2004 auto show circuit.>>>>>>>
Jim Queen, GM vice president of global engineering, told The>>>>>>>Detroit News in an interview this week that the automaker is>>>>>>>now working on a rear-wheel-drive platform that would be more>>>>>>>cost-eff­ective, and could result in a Camaro-like vehicle.>>>>>>>
"There's a Camaro hook in all of us," Queen said. "It may not>>>>>>>be >>
Camaro, but there's a lot of us inside our company and outside >>
company that feel very passionate about it.">>>>>>>
Queen said the new platform, or architecture, could be some>>>>>>>form >>>>
Zeta or the Sigma rear-wheel-drive architecture used by >>
Cadillac's>>
new rear-wheel-drive sedans and crossover.>>>>>>>
"It's going to be something I sort of call Zeta-light," Lutz >>
said.>>
The Camaro and its twin, the Pontiac Firebird, were favorites>>>>>>>of young drivers who loved tooling around in a powerful, muscle>>>>>>>car >>>>
a moderate price.>>>>>>>
But the cars fell from favor in the late 1990s as young>>>>>>>consume­rs shifted to sport utility vehicles and front-wheel>>>>>>>d­rive passenger cars and production ended in 2002. >>>>>>>--->>>>>>>
Patrick>>>>>­>>'93 Cobra>>>>>>>

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Joe 15 April 2005 21:07:50 permanent link ]
 At my advanced stage of life I don't remember too much, but I did
remember the Zeta thing. Maybe because it made me think of Catherine
Zeta-Jones... ;)

Joe
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies
Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC


<memset@recorddeal.­com> wrote in news:xNO7e.1228$JJ2­.654
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Good catch, Joe ;).>
-Mike>
--> Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean!> http://www.MeltAway­Cellulite.com/>
"Joe" <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in message> news:JfF7e.65103$vL­3.51479@bignews4.bel­lsouth.net...>> Sorry to answer my own post, but I knew I read that the Zeta
platform>> was dead:>> http://www.forbes.c­om/home/columnists/2­005/03/25/cz_jf_
0325flint.html>> http://www.detnews.­com/2005/autosinside­r/0503/21/A01-123402­.htm>>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>> Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>
Joe <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in news:OyD7e.78868$wo­1.24219>> @bignews6.bellsouth­.net:>>
I thought GM dumped the Zeta platform. We even read it in here>> > somewhere.>> >
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>> > Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>> >
"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in>> > news:F9CdnUhJUpGSm8­PfRVn-rg@comcast.com­:>> >
If this is GM's strong statement regarding a new Camaro I sure
hope>> >> the mullet heads aren't holding their breath waiting on an F-
body>> >> replacement. Terms like "working on", "take another look",
"could>> >> result" and "It may not be a Camaro" doesn't exactly show a
strong>> >> commitment. Sounds like a lot of GM BS to me.>> >>
NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:>> >>> Sounds good! At least GM is now publically talking about a new>> >>> Camaro.>> >>> Let's keep our fingers crossed.>> >>>
--->> >>> By Ed Garsten>> >>>
General Motors Corp. is working on a new rear-wheel-drive
platform>> >>> that could be the basis for a vehicle reminiscent of the
departed>> >>> Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird sport coupes.>> >>>
"We're going to take another look at high performance rear-
wheel>> >>> drive," GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said Tuesday at the Society
Automotive Engineers' 2005 World Congress.>> >>>
In March, GM suspended plans to bring out a new generation of>> >>> rear-wheel-drive vehicles for the North American market, citing>> >>> uncompetitive costs.>> >>>
The new platform -- known internally as Zeta -- served as the>> >>> underpinnings for the popular Buick Velite concept car that>> debuted>> >>> on the 2004 auto show circuit.>> >>>
Jim Queen, GM vice president of global engineering, told The>> >>> Detroit News in an interview this week that the automaker is
working on a rear-wheel-drive platform that would be more>> >>> cost-effective, and could result in a Camaro-like vehicle.>> >>>
"There's a Camaro hook in all of us," Queen said. "It may not
be a>> >>> Camaro, but there's a lot of us inside our company and outside
company that feel very passionate about it.">> >>>
Queen said the new platform, or architecture, could be some
form>> of>> >>> Zeta or the Sigma rear-wheel-drive architecture used by
Cadillac's>> >>> new rear-wheel-drive sedans and crossover.>> >>>
"It's going to be something I sort of call Zeta-light," Lutz
said.>> >>>
The Camaro and its twin, the Pontiac Firebird, were favorites
young drivers who loved tooling around in a powerful, muscle
a moderate price.>> >>>
But the cars fell from favor in the late 1990s as young
consumers>> >>> shifted to sport utility vehicles and front-wheel drive
passenger>> >>> cars and production ended in 2002.>> >>> --->> >>>
Patrick>> >>> '93 Cobra>> >>>

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Guest 15 April 2005 22:24:07 permanent link ]
 Who happens to be quite a looker ;). *Almost* hot enough to make me go to
t-mobile..

-Mike

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http://www.MeltAway­Cellulite.com/


"Joe" <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in message
news:GxS7e.66719$vL­3.42711@bignews4.bel­lsouth.net...> At my advanced stage of life I don't remember too much, but I did> remember the Zeta thing. Maybe because it made me think of Catherine> Zeta-Jones... ;)>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies> Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>
<memset@recorddeal.­com> wrote in news:xNO7e.1228$JJ2­.654> @newssvr12.news.pro­digy.com:>
Good catch, Joe ;).> >
-Mike> >
--> > Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean!> > http://www.MeltAway­Cellulite.com/> >
"Joe" <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in message> > news:JfF7e.65103$vL­3.51479@bignews4.bel­lsouth.net...> >> Sorry to answer my own post, but I knew I read that the Zeta> platform> >> was dead:> >> http://www.forbes.c­om/home/columnists/2­005/03/25/cz_jf_> 0325flint.html> >> http://www.detnews.­com/2005/autosinside­r/0503/21/A01-123402­.htm> >>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies> >> Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC> >>
Joe <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in news:OyD7e.78868$wo­1.24219> >> @bignews6.bellsouth­.net:> >>
I thought GM dumped the Zeta platform. We even read it in here> >> > somewhere.> >> >
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies> >> > Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC> >> >
"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in> >> > news:F9CdnUhJUpGSm8­PfRVn-rg@comcast.com­:> >> >
If this is GM's strong statement regarding a new Camaro I sure> hope> >> >> the mullet heads aren't holding their breath waiting on an F-> body> >> >> replacement. Terms like "working on", "take another look",> "could> >> >> result" and "It may not be a Camaro" doesn't exactly show a> strong> >> >> commitment. Sounds like a lot of GM BS to me.> >> >>
NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:> >> >>> Sounds good! At least GM is now publically talking about a new> >> >>> Camaro.> >> >>> Let's keep our fingers crossed.> >> >>>
---> >> >>> By Ed Garsten> >> >>>
General Motors Corp. is working on a new rear-wheel-drive> platform> >> >>> that could be the basis for a vehicle reminiscent of the> departed> >> >>> Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird sport coupes.> >> >>>
"We're going to take another look at high performance rear-> wheel> >> >>> drive," GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said Tuesday at the Society> of> >> >>> Automotive Engineers' 2005 World Congress.> >> >>>
In March, GM suspended plans to bring out a new generation of> >> >>> rear-wheel-drive vehicles for the North American market, citing> >> >>> uncompetitive costs.> >> >>>
The new platform -- known internally as Zeta -- served as the> >> >>> underpinnings for the popular Buick Velite concept car that> >> debuted> >> >>> on the 2004 auto show circuit.> >> >>>
Jim Queen, GM vice president of global engineering, told The> >> >>> Detroit News in an interview this week that the automaker is> now> >> >>> working on a rear-wheel-drive platform that would be more> >> >>> cost-effective, and could result in a Camaro-like vehicle.> >> >>>
"There's a Camaro hook in all of us," Queen said. "It may not> be a> >> >>> Camaro, but there's a lot of us inside our company and outside> our> >> >>> company that feel very passionate about it."> >> >>>
Queen said the new platform, or architecture, could be some> form> >> of> >> >>> Zeta or the Sigma rear-wheel-drive architecture used by> Cadillac's> >> >>> new rear-wheel-drive sedans and crossover.> >> >>>
"It's going to be something I sort of call Zeta-light," Lutz> said.> >> >>>
The Camaro and its twin, the Pontiac Firebird, were favorites> of> >> >>> young drivers who loved tooling around in a powerful, muscle> car> >> at> >> >>> a moderate price.> >> >>>
But the cars fell from favor in the late 1990s as young> consumers> >> >>> shifted to sport utility vehicles and front-wheel drive> passenger> >> >>> cars and production ended in 2002.> >> >>> ---> >> >>>
Patrick> >> >>> '93 Cobra> >> >>>


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Joe 16 April 2005 02:08:03 permanent link ]
 I'll stay with AT&T (now Cingular) because I get a company discount.
But I'll watch the T-Mobile commercials any time... ;)

Joe
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies
Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC


<memset@recorddeal.­com> wrote in
news:bFT7e.1275$JJ2­.573@newssvr12.news.­prodigy.com:
Who happens to be quite a looker ;). *Almost* hot enough to make me> go to t-mobile..>
-Mike>
--> Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean!> http://www.MeltAway­Cellulite.com/>
"Joe" <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in message> news:GxS7e.66719$vL­3.42711@bignews4.bel­lsouth.net...>> At my advanced stage of life I don't remember too much, but I did>> remember the Zeta thing. Maybe because it made me think of>> Catherine Zeta-Jones... ;)>>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>> Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>
<memset@recorddeal.­com> wrote in news:xNO7e.1228$JJ2­.654>> @newssvr12.news.pro­digy.com:>>
Good catch, Joe ;).>> >
-Mike>> >
-->> > Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean!>> > http://www.MeltAway­Cellulite.com/>> >
"Joe" <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in message>> > news:JfF7e.65103$vL­3.51479@bignews4.bel­lsouth.net...>> >> Sorry to answer my own post, but I knew I read that the Zeta>> platform>> >> was dead:>> >> http://www.forbes.c­om/home/columnists/2­005/03/25/cz_jf_>> 0325flint.html>> >> http://www.detnews.­com/2005/autosinside­r/0503/21/A01-123402­.htm>> >>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>> >> Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>> >>
Joe <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in>> >> news:OyD7e.78868$wo­1.24219 @bignews6.bellsouth­.net:>> >>
I thought GM dumped the Zeta platform. We even read it in>> >> > here somewhere.>> >> >
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>> >> > Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>> >> >
"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in>> >> > news:F9CdnUhJUpGSm8­PfRVn-rg@comcast.com­:>> >> >
If this is GM's strong statement regarding a new Camaro I>> >> >> sure >> hope>> >> >> the mullet heads aren't holding their breath waiting on an F->> body>> >> >> replacement. Terms like "working on", "take another look",>> "could>> >> >> result" and "It may not be a Camaro" doesn't exactly show a>> strong>> >> >> commitment. Sounds like a lot of GM BS to me.>> >> >>
NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:>> >> >>> Sounds good! At least GM is now publically talking about a>> >> >>> new Camaro.>> >> >>> Let's keep our fingers crossed.>> >> >>>
--->> >> >>> By Ed Garsten>> >> >>>
General Motors Corp. is working on a new rear-wheel-drive>> platform>> >> >>> that could be the basis for a vehicle reminiscent of the>> departed>> >> >>> Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird sport coupes.>> >> >>>
"We're going to take another look at high performance rear->> wheel>> >> >>> drive," GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said Tuesday at the>> >> >>> Society >> of>> >> >>> Automotive Engineers' 2005 World Congress.>> >> >>>
In March, GM suspended plans to bring out a new generation>> >> >>> of rear-wheel-drive vehicles for the North American market,>> >> >>> citing uncompetitive costs.>> >> >>>
The new platform -- known internally as Zeta -- served as>> >> >>> the underpinnings for the popular Buick Velite concept car>> >> >>> that >> >> debuted>> >> >>> on the 2004 auto show circuit.>> >> >>>
Jim Queen, GM vice president of global engineering, told The>> >> >>> Detroit News in an interview this week that the automaker is>> now>> >> >>> working on a rear-wheel-drive platform that would be more>> >> >>> cost-effective, and could result in a Camaro-like vehicle.>> >> >>>
"There's a Camaro hook in all of us," Queen said. "It may>> >> >>> not >> be a>> >> >>> Camaro, but there's a lot of us inside our company and>> >> >>> outside >> our>> >> >>> company that feel very passionate about it.">> >> >>>
Queen said the new platform, or architecture, could be some>> form>> >> of>> >> >>> Zeta or the Sigma rear-wheel-drive architecture used by>> Cadillac's>> >> >>> new rear-wheel-drive sedans and crossover.>> >> >>>
"It's going to be something I sort of call Zeta-light," Lutz>> said.>> >> >>>
The Camaro and its twin, the Pontiac Firebird, were>> >> >>> favorites >> of>> >> >>> young drivers who loved tooling around in a powerful, muscle>> car>> >> at>> >> >>> a moderate price.>> >> >>>
But the cars fell from favor in the late 1990s as young>> consumers>> >> >>> shifted to sport utility vehicles and front-wheel drive>> passenger>> >> >>> cars and production ended in 2002.>> >> >>> --->> >> >>>
Patrick>> >> >>> '93 Cobra>> >> >>>

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Michael Johnson 16 April 2005 05:36:42 permanent link ]
 Use Mi#ke#J9#11#6@netsc­ape.net Just remove the "#" symbols.

Joe wrote:> Thanks, Michael. Is your correct email the netscape one or the one in > your header below?>
"Michael Johnson, PE" <cds@erols.com> wrote in> news:ep6dnftlbPnHS8­LfRVn-1w@comcast.com­: >
I would be happy to help out. I think you have my email address. >>If not, let me know.>>
I'm glad to see that he is thinking of engineering. IMO, this>>country is turning out far too few engineers and we will feel the>>effects of this in the upcoming decades. The good side is that the>>few that do have a B.S. degree in engineering will be a valuable>>commodity­. >>
Joe wrote:>>
The stories in the links I posted are about 3 weeks old.>>>
BTW, Michael, I have to ask you a couple questions about>>>engineering­. My son's a high school soph interested in getting>>>into that field. I'll send you an e-mail later on.>>>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>>>Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>>
"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in >>>news:nq2dnTD35N6­S0sLfRVn-hQ@comcast.­com:>>>
I thought the same thing when I read the article but was too lazy>>>>to check it out on Google. This must be an old story.>>>>
Joe wrote:>>>>
Sorry to answer my own post, but I knew I read that the Zeta >>>
platform >>>
0325flint.html>>­>
Calyps­o Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>>>>>Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>>>>
Joe <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in news:OyD7e.78868$wo­1.24219>>>>>@bignews­6.bellsouth.net:>>>>­>
I thought GM dumped the Zeta platform. We even read it in here >>>>>>somewhere.>>>­>>>
Caly­pso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>>>>>>Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>>>>>
"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in>>>>>>news:F9CdnU­hJUpGSm8PfRVn-rg@com­cast.com: >>>>>>
If this is GM's strong statement regarding a new Camaro I sure >>>
hope>>>
the mullet heads aren't holding their breath waiting on an>>>>>>>F-body replacement. Terms like "working on", "take another>>>>>>>look"­, "could result" and "It may not be a Camaro" doesn't>>>>>>>exact­ly show a strong commitment. Sounds like a lot of GM BS to>>>>>>>me. >>>>>>>
NoOption5L@a­ol.com wrote:>>>>>>>
Sounds good! At least GM is now publically talking about a new>>>>>>>>Camaro. >>>>>>>>Let's keep our fingers crossed.>>>>>>>>
--->>>>>>>>­By Ed Garsten>>>>>>>>
General Motors Corp. is working on a new rear-wheel-drive >>>
platform>>>
that could be the basis for a vehicle reminiscent of the>>>>>>>>departed­ Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird sport coupes.>>>>>>>>
"We're going to take another look at high performance>>>>>>>>­rear-wheel drive," GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said Tuesday at>>>>>>>>the Society of Automotive Engineers' 2005 World Congress.>>>>>>>>
In March, GM suspended plans to bring out a new generation of>>>>>>>>rear-whee­l-drive vehicles for the North American market, citing>>>>>>>>uncom­petitive costs.>>>>>>>>
The new platform -- known internally as Zeta -- served as the>>>>>>>>underpin­nings for the popular Buick Velite concept car that >>>>>
debuted>>>>>
on the 2004 auto show circuit.>>>>>>>>
Jim Queen, GM vice president of global engineering, told The>>>>>>>>Detroit News in an interview this week that the automaker is>>>>>>>>now working on a rear-wheel-drive platform that would be more>>>>>>>>cost-ef­fective, and could result in a Camaro-like vehicle.>>>>>>>>
"There's a Camaro hook in all of us," Queen said. "It may not>>>>>>>>be >>>
Camaro, but there's a lot of us inside our company and outside >>>
company that feel very passionate about it.">>>>>>>>
Queen said the new platform, or architecture, could be some>>>>>>>>form >>>>>
Zeta or the Sigma rear-wheel-drive architecture used by >>>
Cadillac's>>>
new rear-wheel-drive sedans and crossover.>>>>>>>>
"It's going to be something I sort of call Zeta-light," Lutz >>>
said.>>>
The Camaro and its twin, the Pontiac Firebird, were favorites>>>>>>>>of­ young drivers who loved tooling around in a powerful, muscle>>>>>>>>car >>>>>
a moderate price.>>>>>>>>
But the cars fell from favor in the late 1990s as young>>>>>>>>consum­ers shifted to sport utility vehicles and front-wheel>>>>>>>>­drive passenger cars and production ended in 2002. >>>>>>>>--->>>>>>>>­
Patrick>>>>­>>>>'93 Cobra>>>>>>>>
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Joe 16 April 2005 08:26:22 permanent link ]
 That's the one I've got. Thanks - I'll send something out to you this
weekend.


"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in
news:ouydnUpTm6e08f­3fRVn-3A@comcast.com­:
Use Mi#ke#J9#11#6@netsc­ape.net Just remove the "#" symbols.>
Joe wrote:>> Thanks, Michael. Is your correct email the netscape one or the one>> in your header below?>>
"Michael Johnson, PE" <cds@erols.com> wrote in>> news:ep6dnftlbPnHS8­LfRVn-1w@comcast.com­: >>
I would be happy to help out. I think you have my email address. >>>If not, let me know.>>>
I'm glad to see that he is thinking of engineering. IMO, this>>>country is turning out far too few engineers and we will feel the>>>effects of this in the upcoming decades. The good side is that the>>>few that do have a B.S. degree in engineering will be a valuable>>>commodit­y. >>>
Joe wrote:>>>
The stories in the links I posted are about 3 weeks old.>>>>
BTW, Michael, I have to ask you a couple questions about>>>>engineerin­g. My son's a high school soph interested in getting>>>>into that field. I'll send you an e-mail later on.>>>>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>>>>Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>>>
"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in >>>>news:nq2dnTD35N­6S0sLfRVn-hQ@comcast­.com:>>>>
I thought the same thing when I read the article but was too lazy>>>>>to check it out on Google. This must be an old story.>>>>>
Joe wrote:>>>>>
Sorry to answer my own post, but I knew I read that the Zeta >>>>
platform >>>>
0325flint.html>­>>>
Caly­pso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>>>>>>Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>>>>>
Joe <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in>>>>>>news:OyD7e.­78868$wo1.24219 @bignews6.bellsouth­.net:>>>>>>
I thought GM dumped the Zeta platform. We even read it in here>>>>>>>somewher­e.>>>>>>>
Ca­lypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>>>>>>>Black­ '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>>>>>>
"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in>>>>>>>news:F9Cdn­UhJUpGSm8PfRVn-rg@co­mcast.com: >>>>>>>
If this is GM's strong statement regarding a new Camaro I sure>>>>
hope>>>>
the mullet heads aren't holding their breath waiting on an>>>>>>>>F-body replacement. Terms like "working on", "take another>>>>>>>>look­", "could result" and "It may not be a Camaro" doesn't>>>>>>>>exac­tly show a strong commitment. Sounds like a lot of GM BS>>>>>>>>to me. >>>>>>>>
NoOption5L@­aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>
Sounds good! At least GM is now publically talking about a>>>>>>>>>new Camaro. >>>>>>>>>Let's keep our fingers crossed.>>>>>>>>>
--->>>>>>>­>>By Ed Garsten>>>>>>>>>
General Motors Corp. is working on a new rear-wheel-drive >>>>
platform>>>>
that could be the basis for a vehicle reminiscent of the>>>>>>>>>departe­d Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird sport coupes.>>>>>>>>>
"We're going to take another look at high performance>>>>>>>>­>rear-wheel drive," GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said Tuesday at>>>>>>>>>the Society of Automotive Engineers' 2005 World Congress.>>>>>>>>>
In March, GM suspended plans to bring out a new generation of>>>>>>>>>rear-whe­el-drive vehicles for the North American market,>>>>>>>>>cit­ing uncompetitive costs.>>>>>>>>>
The new platform -- known internally as Zeta -- served as the>>>>>>>>>underpi­nnings for the popular Buick Velite concept car that >>>>>>
debuted>>>>>>­
on the 2004 auto show circuit.>>>>>>>>>
Jim Queen, GM vice president of global engineering, told The>>>>>>>>>Detroit­ News in an interview this week that the automaker is>>>>>>>>>now working on a rear-wheel-drive platform that would be more>>>>>>>>>cost-e­ffective, and could result in a Camaro-like vehicle.>>>>>>>>>
"There's a Camaro hook in all of us," Queen said. "It may not>>>>>>>>>be >>>>
Camaro, but there's a lot of us inside our company and>>>>>>>>>outside­ >>>>
company that feel very passionate about it.">>>>>>>>>
Queen said the new platform, or architecture, could be some>>>>>>>>>form >>>>>>
Zeta or the Sigma rear-wheel-drive architecture used by >>>>
Cadillac's>>>>
new rear-wheel-drive sedans and crossover.>>>>>>>>>­
"It's going to be something I sort of call Zeta-light," Lutz >>>>
said.>>>>
The Camaro and its twin, the Pontiac Firebird, were favorites>>>>>>>>>o­f young drivers who loved tooling around in a powerful,>>>>>>>>>m­uscle car >>>>>>
a moderate price.>>>>>>>>>
But the cars fell from favor in the late 1990s as young>>>>>>>>>consu­mers shifted to sport utility vehicles and front-wheel>>>>>>>>­>drive passenger cars and production ended in 2002. >>>>>>>>>--->>>>>>>­>>
Patrick>>>­>>>>>>'93 Cobra>>>>>>>>>

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Joe 16 April 2005 08:27:00 permanent link ]
 What, are you saying there's hope?


"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in
news:ouydnUVTm6cQ8f­3fRVn-3A@comcast.com­:
Plus she goes for old farts (i.e. Michael Douglas) like you and I.
:)­>
Joe wrote:>> I'll stay with AT&T (now Cingular) because I get a company
discount. >> But I'll watch the T-Mobile commercials any time... ;)>>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>> Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>
<memset@recorddeal.­com> wrote in>> news:bFT7e.1275$JJ2­.573@newssvr12.news.­prodigy.com: >>
Who happens to be quite a looker ;). *Almost* hot enough to make me>>>go to t-mobile..>>>
-Mike>>>
-->>>Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean!>>>http:/­/www.MeltAwayCelluli­te.com/>>>
"Joe" <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in message>>>news:GxS7­e.66719$vL3.42711@bi­gnews4.bellsouth.net­...>>>
At my advanced stage of life I don't remember too much, but I did>>>>remember the Zeta thing. Maybe because it made me think of>>>>Catherine Zeta-Jones... ;)>>>>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>>>>Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>>>
<memset@recordd­eal.com> wrote in news:xNO7e.1228$JJ2­.654>>>>@newssvr12.n­ews.prodigy.com:>>>>­
Good catch, Joe ;).>>>>>
-Mike>>>>>
-->>>>>Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean!>>>>>http­://www.MeltAwayCellu­lite.com/>>>>>
"Joe" <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in message>>>>>news:Jf­F7e.65103$vL3.51479@­bignews4.bellsouth.n­et...>>>>>
Sorry to answer my own post, but I knew I read that the Zeta>>>>
platform>>>>
0325flint.html>­>>>
Caly­pso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>>>>>>Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>>>>>
Joe <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in>>>>>>news:OyD7e.­78868$wo1.24219 @bignews6.bellsouth­.net:>>>>>>
I thought GM dumped the Zeta platform. We even read it in>>>>>>>here somewhere.>>>>>>>
Ca­lypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>>>>>>>Black­ '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>>>>>>
"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in>>>>>>>news:F9Cdn­UhJUpGSm8PfRVn-rg@co­mcast.com:>>>>>>>
If this is GM's strong statement regarding a new Camaro I>>>>>>>>sure >>>>
hope>>>>
the mullet heads aren't holding their breath waiting on an F->>>>
body>>>>
replacement­. Terms like "working on", "take another look",>>>>
"could>>>>
result" and "It may not be a Camaro" doesn't exactly show a>>>>
strong>>>>
commitment.­ Sounds like a lot of GM BS to me.>>>>>>>>
NoOption5L@­aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>
Sounds good! At least GM is now publically talking about a>>>>>>>>>new Camaro.>>>>>>>>> Let's keep our fingers crossed.>>>>>>>>>
--->>>>>>>­>>By Ed Garsten>>>>>>>>>
General Motors Corp. is working on a new rear-wheel-drive>>>­>
platform>>>>
that could be the basis for a vehicle reminiscent of the>>>>
departed>>>>
Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird sport coupes.>>>>>>>>>
"We're going to take another look at high performance rear->>>>
wheel>>>>
drive," GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said Tuesday at the>>>>>>>>>Society­ >>>>
Automotive­ Engineers' 2005 World Congress.>>>>>>>>>
In March, GM suspended plans to bring out a new generation>>>>>>>>>­of rear-wheel-drive vehicles for the North American market,>>>>>>>>>cit­ing uncompetitive costs.>>>>>>>>>
The new platform -- known internally as Zeta -- served as>>>>>>>>>the underpinnings for the popular Buick Velite concept car>>>>>>>>>that >>>>>>
debuted>>>>>>­
on the 2004 auto show circuit.>>>>>>>>>
Jim Queen, GM vice president of global engineering, told The>>>>>>>>>Detroit­ News in an interview this week that the automaker is>>>>
working on a rear-wheel-drive platform that would be more>>>>>>>>>cost-e­ffective, and could result in a Camaro-like vehicle.>>>>>>>>>
"There's a Camaro hook in all of us," Queen said. "It may>>>>>>>>>not >>>>
be a>>>>
Camaro, but there's a lot of us inside our company and>>>>>>>>>outside­ >>>>
company that feel very passionate about it.">>>>>>>>>
Queen said the new platform, or architecture, could be some>>>>
form>>>>
Zeta or the Sigma rear-wheel-drive architecture used by>>>>
Cadillac's>>>>
new rear-wheel-drive sedans and crossover.>>>>>>>>>­
"It's going to be something I sort of call Zeta-light," Lutz>>>>
said.>>>>
The Camaro and its twin, the Pontiac Firebird, were>>>>>>>>>favori­tes >>>>
young drivers who loved tooling around in a powerful, muscle>>>>
a moderate price.>>>>>>>>>
But the cars fell from favor in the late 1990s as young>>>>
consumers>>>>
shifted to sport utility vehicles and front-wheel drive>>>>
passenger>>>>
cars and production ended in 2002.>>>>>>>>>--->>­>>>>>>>
Patrick>>>­>>>>>>'93 Cobra>>>>>>>>>

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Michael Johnson 16 April 2005 16:34:42 permanent link ]
 There is a chance. Maybe one in 10,000,000 but there is hope.

Joe wrote:> What, are you saying there's hope?>
"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in > news:ouydnUVTm6cQ8f­3fRVn-3A@comcast.com­:>
Plus she goes for old farts (i.e. Michael Douglas) like you and I. >
:)­>
Joe wrote:>>
I'll stay with AT&T (now Cingular) because I get a company >
discount. >
But I'll watch the T-Mobile commercials any time... ;)>>>
Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>>>Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>>
<memset@recordde­al.com> wrote in>>>news:bFT7e.127­5$JJ2.573@newssvr12.­news.prodigy.com: >>>
Who happens to be quite a looker ;). *Almost* hot enough to make me>>>>go to t-mobile..>>>>
-Mike>>>>
-->>>>Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean!>>>>http:­//www.MeltAwayCellul­ite.com/>>>>
"Joe" <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in message>>>>news:GxS­7e.66719$vL3.42711@b­ignews4.bellsouth.ne­t...>>>>
At my advanced stage of life I don't remember too much, but I did>>>>>remember the Zeta thing. Maybe because it made me think of>>>>>Catherine Zeta-Jones... ;)>>>>>
Calyps­o Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>>>>>Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>>>>
<memset@record­deal.com> wrote in news:xNO7e.1228$JJ2­.654>>>>>@newssvr12.­news.prodigy.com:>>>­>>
Good catch, Joe ;).>>>>>>
-Mike>>>>>>
-->>>>>>Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean!>>>>>>htt­p://www.MeltAwayCell­ulite.com/>>>>>>
"Joe" <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in message>>>>>>news:J­fF7e.65103$vL3.51479­@bignews4.bellsouth.­net...>>>>>>
Sorry to answer my own post, but I knew I read that the Zeta>>>>>
platform>>>>>
0325flint.html­>>>>>
Ca­lypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>>>>>>>Black­ '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>>>>>>
Joe <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in>>>>>>>news:OyD7e­.78868$wo1.24219 @bignews6.bellsouth­.net:>>>>>>>
I thought GM dumped the Zeta platform. We even read it in>>>>>>>>here somewhere.>>>>>>>>
­Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies>>>>>>>>Blac­k '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC>>>>>>>>
"Michael Johnson, PE" <nospam@ourhouse.co­m> wrote in>>>>>>>>news:F9Cd­nUhJUpGSm8PfRVn-rg@c­omcast.com:>>>>>>>>
If this is GM's strong statement regarding a new Camaro I>>>>>>>>>sure >>>>>
hope>>>>>
the mullet heads aren't holding their breath waiting on an F->>>>>
body>>>>>
replacemen­t. Terms like "working on", "take another look",>>>>>
"could>>>>>
result" and "It may not be a Camaro" doesn't exactly show a>>>>>
strong>>>>>
commitment­. Sounds like a lot of GM BS to me.>>>>>>>>>
NoOption5L­@aol.com wrote:>>>>>>>>>
Sounds good! At least GM is now publically talking about a>>>>>>>>>>new Camaro.>>>>>>>>>>Le­t's keep our fingers crossed.>>>>>>>>>>
--->>>>>>­>>>>By Ed Garsten>>>>>>>>>>
General Motors Corp. is working on a new rear-wheel-drive>>>­>>
platform>>>>>
that could be the basis for a vehicle reminiscent of the>>>>>
departed>>>>>
Chevrolet­ Camaro and Pontiac Firebird sport coupes.>>>>>>>>>>
"We're going to take another look at high performance rear->>>>>
wheel>>>>>
drive," GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said Tuesday at the>>>>>>>>>>Societ­y >>>>>
Automotiv­e Engineers' 2005 World Congress.>>>>>>>>>>­
In March, GM suspended plans to bring out a new generation>>>>>>>>>­>of rear-wheel-drive vehicles for the North American market,>>>>>>>>>>ci­ting uncompetitive costs.>>>>>>>>>>
The new platform -- known internally as Zeta -- served as>>>>>>>>>>the underpinnings for the popular Buick Velite concept car>>>>>>>>>>that >>>>>>>
debuted>>>>>­>>
on the 2004 auto show circuit.>>>>>>>>>>
Jim Queen, GM vice president of global engineering, told The>>>>>>>>>>Detroi­t News in an interview this week that the automaker is>>>>>
working on a rear-wheel-drive platform that would be more>>>>>>>>>>cost-­effective, and could result in a Camaro-like vehicle.>>>>>>>>>>
"There's a Camaro hook in all of us," Queen said. "It may>>>>>>>>>>not >>>>>
be a>>>>>
Camaro, but there's a lot of us inside our company and>>>>>>>>>>outsid­e >>>>>
company that feel very passionate about it.">>>>>>>>>>
Queen said the new platform, or architecture, could be some>>>>>
form>>>>>
Zeta or the Sigma rear-wheel-drive architecture used by>>>>>
Cadillac's>>>>­>
new rear-wheel-drive sedans and crossover.>>>>>>>>>­>
"It's going to be something I sort of call Zeta-light," Lutz>>>>>
said.>>>>>
The Camaro and its twin, the Pontiac Firebird, were>>>>>>>>>>favor­ites >>>>>
young drivers who loved tooling around in a powerful, muscle>>>>>
a moderate price.>>>>>>>>>>
But the cars fell from favor in the late 1990s as young>>>>>
consumers>>>>>­
shifted to sport utility vehicles and front-wheel drive>>>>>
passenger>>>>>­
cars and production ended in 2002.>>>>>>>>>>--->­>>>>>>>>>
Patrick>>­>>>>>>>>'93 Cobra>>>>>>>>>>
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