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CarGuru > Ford > 4.6L engine question 13 April 2005 01:24:14

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4.6L engine question

George Adams 7 April 2005 16:47:27
 I was on the Crown Vic website, and there was some discussion about
cracking and subsequent coolant loss from the plastic crossover pipe.
The permanent fix is replacement wit a manifold that has an aluminum
crossover.
Some questions:
1. How frequent is this problem? Consumer reports indicates a very low
percentage of failures in the engine/fuel/coolng system categories.

2. If it is frequent, is it a high mileage/hard usage kind of thing?
The guys on the Crown Vic site seem to be performance oriented, and
likely push their cars harder than the average driver.

3. If a crack does occur, can a temporary repair be made with epoxy/KB
Weld, etc? By temporary, I mean lasting long enough to get back home
from a trip, say 300 to 500 miles.

4. Does anyone know the cost of replacement and intallation of a
manifold with the aluminum crossover?

Thank you guys for the feedback on my first post, and thanks in
advance for this one.

George


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Guest 8 April 2005 01:12:39 permanent link ]
 It actually is fairly frequent. Mine did it around 90,000 miles I believe. I
went to Ford & paid $140 for the revised intake manifold w/ the metal
thermostat housing, etc. Paid not much more than that for labor.

-Mike

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"George Adams" <george9219@aol-dot­-com.no-spam.invalid­> wrote in message
news:42552bdf_1@127­.0.0.1...> I was on the Crown Vic website, and there was some discussion about> cracking and subsequent coolant loss from the plastic crossover pipe.> The permanent fix is replacement wit a manifold that has an aluminum> crossover.> Some questions:> 1. How frequent is this problem? Consumer reports indicates a very low> percentage of failures in the engine/fuel/coolng system categories.>
2. If it is frequent, is it a high mileage/hard usage kind of thing?> The guys on the Crown Vic site seem to be performance oriented, and> likely push their cars harder than the average driver.>
3. If a crack does occur, can a temporary repair be made with epoxy/KB> Weld, etc? By temporary, I mean lasting long enough to get back home> from a trip, say 300 to 500 miles.>
4. Does anyone know the cost of replacement and intallation of a> manifold with the aluminum crossover?>
Thank you guys for the feedback on my first post, and thanks in> advance for this one.>
George>
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Scotter 8 April 2005 07:38:12 permanent link ]
 Intake manifold was replaced by local mechanic and Ford paid the bill.
"Recall" item or something like that. Look it up.
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96 GT vert


"George Adams" <george9219@aol-dot­-com.no-spam.invalid­> wrote in message
news:42552bdf_1@127­.0.0.1...>I was on the Crown Vic website, and there was some discussion about> cracking and subsequent coolant loss from the plastic crossover pipe.> The permanent fix is replacement wit a manifold that has an aluminum> crossover.> Some questions:> 1. How frequent is this problem? Consumer reports indicates a very low> percentage of failures in the engine/fuel/coolng system categories.>
2. If it is frequent, is it a high mileage/hard usage kind of thing?> The guys on the Crown Vic site seem to be performance oriented, and> likely push their cars harder than the average driver.>
3. If a crack does occur, can a temporary repair be made with epoxy/KB> Weld, etc? By temporary, I mean lasting long enough to get back home> from a trip, say 300 to 500 miles.>
4. Does anyone know the cost of replacement and intallation of a> manifold with the aluminum crossover?>
Thank you guys for the feedback on my first post, and thanks in> advance for this one.>
George>
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Guest 8 April 2005 11:44:57 permanent link ]
 Yes, it was an actual recall on 96-97 I believe... but just a TSB for 98.

-Mike

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"Scotter" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:E0n5e.44527$1H­3.15687@tornado.texa­s.rr.com...> Intake manifold was replaced by local mechanic and Ford paid the bill.> "Recall" item or something like that. Look it up.> --> Scotter> 96 GT vert>
"George Adams" <george9219@aol-dot­-com.no-spam.invalid­> wrote in message> news:42552bdf_1@127­.0.0.1...> >I was on the Crown Vic website, and there was some discussion about> > cracking and subsequent coolant loss from the plastic crossover pipe.> > The permanent fix is replacement wit a manifold that has an aluminum> > crossover.> > Some questions:> > 1. How frequent is this problem? Consumer reports indicates a very low> > percentage of failures in the engine/fuel/coolng system categories.> >
2. If it is frequent, is it a high mileage/hard usage kind of thing?> > The guys on the Crown Vic site seem to be performance oriented, and> > likely push their cars harder than the average driver.> >
3. If a crack does occur, can a temporary repair be made with epoxy/KB> > Weld, etc? By temporary, I mean lasting long enough to get back home> > from a trip, say 300 to 500 miles.> >
4. Does anyone know the cost of replacement and intallation of a> > manifold with the aluminum crossover?> >
Thank you guys for the feedback on my first post, and thanks in> > advance for this one.> >
George> >
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George Adams 8 April 2005 21:27:33 permanent link ]
 Typically, when these things go, is it a catastrophic failure that
dumps out all your coolant and leaves you stranded, or is it more
like a slow leak?

Thanks,
George

P.S. I have a line on a 97 Grand Marquis, one owner, clean title,
54,000 miles at a good price, but it has the original
manifold....that's why I'm pestering you guys with these specific
questions. Thanks for your help and patience.


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Guest 9 April 2005 01:02:00 permanent link ]
 Mine was a rather slow leak that was detected early. I used high-temp gasket
maker (the orange goopy stuff) as a temporary fix to get to the Ford
dealership to get the intake manifold & then to the shop to get it
installed.

-Mike

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"George Adams" <george9219@aol-dot­-com.no-spam.invalid­> wrote in message
news:4256bf05$1_1@1­27.0.0.1...> Typically, when these things go, is it a catastrophic failure that> dumps out all your coolant and leaves you stranded, or is it more> like a slow leak?>
Thanks,> George>
P.S. I have a line on a 97 Grand Marquis, one owner, clean title,> 54,000 miles at a good price, but it has the original> manifold....that's why I'm pestering you guys with these specific> questions. Thanks for your help and patience.>
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Joey Pankiw 13 April 2005 01:24:14 permanent link ]
 Mine cracked on my 97 GT, it was a recall.


<memset@recorddeal.­com> wrote in message
news:ZDq5e.2920$3z3­.2202@newssvr12.news­.prodigy.com...> Yes, it was an actual recall on 96-97 I believe... but just a TSB for 98.>
-Mike>
--> Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean!> http://www.MeltAway­Cellulite.com/>
"Scotter" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message> news:E0n5e.44527$1H­3.15687@tornado.texa­s.rr.com...>> Intake manifold was replaced by local mechanic and Ford paid the bill.>> "Recall" item or something like that. Look it up.>> -->> Scotter>> 96 GT vert>>
"George Adams" <george9219@aol-dot­-com.no-spam.invalid­> wrote in message>> news:42552bdf_1@127­.0.0.1...>> >I was on the Crown Vic website, and there was some discussion about>> > cracking and subsequent coolant loss from the plastic crossover pipe.>> > The permanent fix is replacement wit a manifold that has an aluminum>> > crossover.>> > Some questions:>> > 1. How frequent is this problem? Consumer reports indicates a very low>> > percentage of failures in the engine/fuel/coolng system categories.>> >
2. If it is frequent, is it a high mileage/hard usage kind of thing?>> > The guys on the Crown Vic site seem to be performance oriented, and>> > likely push their cars harder than the average driver.>> >
3. If a crack does occur, can a temporary repair be made with epoxy/KB>> > Weld, etc? By temporary, I mean lasting long enough to get back home>> > from a trip, say 300 to 500 miles.>> >
4. Does anyone know the cost of replacement and intallation of a>> > manifold with the aluminum crossover?>> >
Thank you guys for the feedback on my first post, and thanks in>> > advance for this one.>> >
George>> >
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