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Re: Ford Motor Shifts Gears?

Guest 31 March 2005 08:06:11
 On 30 Mar 2005 19:31:25 -0800, NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:
It appears that Ford has finally started to get it, well, at least one>part of the puzzle. And this part of the puzzle says that business as>usual, doesn't cut it in today's hyper-competitive market. The market>wants continual improvement, not the old plan of design a vehicle and>then wait for it to die on the vine before you make changes or offer a>replacement.>
Any way... very interesting article. Take a read.>
--->>From BON:>Richard Jensen>
Our friends in the automotive press, all-knowing as they are, have>seized on the various official and semi-official announcements by Ford>executives concerning the proposed schedule of refinements to the Five>Hundred as proof that Ford is 'unhappy' with the way the public (here>read: "press") has received the new Five Hundred. Apparently, the Five>Hundred is too conservatively styled, and must be restyled as quickly>as possible.>
Very sound reasoning, given that Ford has a long-standing history of>investing very little in its car platforms between major overhauls.>
One might even be tempted to believe that Ford was scrambling to>correct deficiencies with the Five Hundred, if Ford's prior strategy of>minimal ongoing platform investment had been a success.>
But has it?>
The numbers suggest otherwise. Over the last decade, Ford has>consistently lost passenger car market share in a large part due to the>fact that they did not invest in their product on an ongoing basis.>
Apparently that message has been received loud and clear.>
So, taking a page from Honda and Toyota, who make major and minor>changes to their passenger cars on a regular schedule (one that you can>set your watch to, in fact), Ford designed the Five Hundred planning to>refresh the design and make other improvements in about two to three>years. Yet another round of changes and upgrades are planned for about>two years after that, and more changes are planned for about two years>after that (as revealed by Phil Martens in an AutoWeek article). As far>back as October of 2002, Chris Theodore (now retired) outlined a>strategy of platform investment that involved increased component>carryover­ and shorter turnaround times for both new product and>improvements to existing product.>
The Five Hundred is the first vehicle that has officially been placed>on this new ongoing investment strategy, however there are rumors>circulating that have the Ford F150 receiving a significant upgrade for>the 2008 model year, an unheard of midcycle upgrade for a full size>pickup. This ongoing investment strategy is an effort to emulate>Toyota's "Kaizen" or "continuous improvement" philosophy.>
This "continous improvement" philosophy does mean that Ford will, over>the life of a platform, make less profit per unit sold, as they will>have to invest more in the platform. However, less profit per unit sold>is fine, if the number of units sold remains fairly consistent, instead>of falling off dramatically toward the end of the platform's life.>
Ford's new strategy is not glamorous, but it will change the domestic>car industry. With the Fusion and the Five Hundred on staggered design>update cycles, there will always be mainstream product in the Ford>showroom with a fresh face. With a two-three year window to supension,>steering­, and powertrain refinement, customer complaints and faults>with the current Fusion or Five Hundred will be addressed quickly.>Substantia­l component carryover due to more frequent and smaller>platform changes means that design defects should drop off over time.>This strategy should provide exactly what Ford is looking for in the>North American market: steady sales, steady market share, and fully>utilized plant capacity.>
<snipped some boring stuff>>
Wisely, Ford has avoided pandering to the press. Instead recognizing>that the car buying public appreciates results more than anything else,>they have decided to build thoroughly competent vehicles that will>remain current throughout their life-cycles. Truly a revolutionary move>by a domestic car company.>---->
Patrick>'93 Cobra
at the dealership there are alot of unhappy customers
fom engines that popped plugs
to the 3.8
focus is crap

face it ford is crap


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Brent P 31 March 2005 08:13:31 permanent link ]
 In article <1112239885.760451.­209020@f14g2000cwb.g­ooglegroups.com>, NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:> read: "press") has received the new Five Hundred. Apparently, the Five> Hundred is too conservatively styled, and must be restyled as quickly> as possible.

I got a better idea, give us the falcon and it's ute. ;)


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Guest 31 March 2005 08:17:28 permanent link ]
 On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:13:31 -0600, tetraethylleadREMOV­ETHIS@yahoo.com
(Brent P) wrote:
In article <1112239885.760451.­209020@f14g2000cwb.g­ooglegroups.com>, NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:>> read: "press") has received the new Five Hundred. Apparently, the Five>> Hundred is too conservatively styled, and must be restyled as quickly>> as possible.>
I got a better idea, give us the falcon and it's ute. ;) >
lmfao
give the people their money back more like it

hurc ast
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66 6f Hcs 31 March 2005 09:41:02 permanent link ]
 
"Brent P" <tetraethylleadREMO­VETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:O-GdnbNGk7V25d­bfRVn-2g@comcast.com­...> In article <1112239885.760451.­209020@f14g2000cwb.g­ooglegroups.com>, > NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:>> read: "press") has received the new Five Hundred. Apparently, the Five>> Hundred is too conservatively styled, and must be restyled as quickly>> as possible.>
I got a better idea, give us the falcon and it's ute. ;)

Unfortunately the Falcon name has been trademarked by ...Pep Boys I think?!?
For a tire of all things!!! AARGH!! The 500 was, IIRC, originally going to
be called "Falcon" until the TM issues came up.
--
Scott W.
'66 Mustang HCS 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
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Brent P 31 March 2005 11:01:21 permanent link ]
 In article <dbydnfwocP3-ENbfRV­n-2w@comcast.com>, 66 6F HCS wrote:
Unfortunately the Falcon name has been trademarked by ...Pep Boys I think?!? > For a tire of all things!!! AARGH!! The 500 was, IIRC, originally going to > be called "Falcon" until the TM issues came up.

Ford lost the case to stop pep boys from using 'futura' which was last
used in the USA on a particular trim level of fairmont....


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Dana H. Myers 31 March 2005 11:58:30 permanent link ]
 
Oddly enough, the first three times I read the title
of this thread, I was sure it said "Ford Motor Shits Gears".

I need more sleep.

Dana
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WindsorFox 1 April 2005 04:25:36 permanent link ]
 Brent P wrote:> In article <1112239885.760451.­209020@f14g2000cwb.g­ooglegroups.com>, NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:>
read: "press") has received the new Five Hundred. Apparently, the Five>>Hundred is too conservatively styled, and must be restyled as quickly>>as possible.>
I got a better idea, give us the falcon and it's ute. ;) >


UTE??? I'd love to see the Falcon show up as a 4 door version of
the Mustang.
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WindsorFox 1 April 2005 04:27:15 permanent link ]
 Dana H. Myers wrote:>
Oddly enough, the first three times I read the title> of this thread, I was sure it said "Ford Motor Shits Gears".>
I need more sleep.>
Dana


Wheeeeeeeere is yo mind leetle girl??!
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Dana H. Myers 1 April 2005 06:15:17 permanent link ]
 WindsorFox[SS] wrote:> Dana H. Myers wrote:>
Oddly enough, the first three times I read the title>> of this thread, I was sure it said "Ford Motor Shits Gears".>>
I need more sleep.>>
Dana
Wheeeeeeeere is yo mind leetle girl??!

You can decide for yourself:

http://www.dioxine.­net/~dana/new_pic.jp­g

Dana
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Gill 1 April 2005 06:32:39 permanent link ]
 WindsorFox[SS] wrote:> Dana H. Myers wrote:>
Oddly enough, the first three times I read the title>> of this thread, I was sure it said "Ford Motor Shits Gears".>>
I need more sleep.>>
Dana>
Wheeeeeeeere is yo mind leetle girl??!
Is Dana not a guy?

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66 6f Hcs 1 April 2005 06:34:45 permanent link ]
 
"Brent P" <tetraethylleadREMO­VETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9vadnT84DM7cPd­bfRVn-1A@comcast.com­...> In article <dbydnfwocP3-ENbfRV­n-2w@comcast.com>, 66 6F HCS wrote:>
Unfortunately the Falcon name has been trademarked by ...Pep Boys I >> think?!?>> For a tire of all things!!! AARGH!! The 500 was, IIRC, originally going >> to>> be called "Falcon" until the TM issues came up.>
Ford lost the case to stop pep boys from using 'futura' which was last> used in the USA on a particular trim level of fairmont....


Oh YEAHH!!!!! Now I remember!!!!
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Scott W.
'66 Mustang HCS 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
ThunderSnake #57


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Brent P 1 April 2005 06:57:09 permanent link ]
 In article <xx03e.72669$7z6.42­39@lakeread04>, WindsorFox[SS] wrote:> Brent P wrote:>> In article <1112239885.760451.­209020@f14g2000cwb.g­ooglegroups.com>, NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:>>
read: "press") has received the new Five Hundred. Apparently, the Five>>>Hundred is too conservatively styled, and must be restyled as quickly>>>as possible.>>
I got a better idea, give us the falcon and it's ute. ;) >>
UTE??? I'd love to see the Falcon show up as a 4 door version of > the Mustang.

The 'ute' is a modern falcon ranchero


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Brent P 1 April 2005 07:02:57 permanent link ]
 In article <iqOdnTdUwqYYJdHfRV­n-2Q@comcast.com>, Brent P wrote:> In article <xx03e.72669$7z6.42­39@lakeread04>, WindsorFox[SS] wrote:>> Brent P wrote:>>> In article <1112239885.760451.­209020@f14g2000cwb.g­ooglegroups.com>, NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:>>>
read: "press") has received the new Five Hundred. Apparently, the Five>>>>Hundred is too conservatively styled, and must be restyled as quickly>>>>as possible.>>>
I got a better idea, give us the falcon and it's ute. ;) >>>
UTE??? I'd love to see the Falcon show up as a 4 door version of >> the Mustang.>
The 'ute' is a modern falcon ranchero

Thought a picture would help:

Here are the fpv versions:

http://www.fpv.com.­au/index.asp?link_id­=2.184
http://www.fpv.com.­au/index.asp?link_id­=2.532
http://www.fpv.com.­au/index.asp?link_id­=2.565

And the regular:
http://www.ford.com­.au/showroom/lightco­mm/Commercial_Vehicl­es.asp
(click on 'falcon ute')

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66 6f Hcs 1 April 2005 07:27:20 permanent link ]
 
"Brent P" <tetraethylleadREMO­VETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote>> The 'ute' is a modern falcon ranchero>
Thought a picture would help:>
Here are the fpv versions:>


Which looks like a retro...
http://www.muscleca­rnationals.com/galle­ry/ranchero/68ranche­ro0403.jpg

It's all about retro now. At least at Ford.
--
Scott W.
'66 Mustang HCS 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
ThunderSnake #57


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Brent P 1 April 2005 07:45:56 permanent link ]
 In article <8d6dnZMmCMMXItHfRV­n-hg@comcast.com>, 66 6F HCS wrote:> Which looks like a retro...> http://www.muscleca­rnationals.com/galle­ry/ranchero/68ranche­ro0403.jpg> It's all about retro now. At least at Ford.

Cept I don't think they ever stopped building them down under.


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