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CJ? Engine Well Clearance ?

Spike 25 February 2005 10:44:24
 65 Mustang
Considering 351W. Restorer says he thinks the fit between exhaust
manifolds at the shock towers and at steering box is extremely tight
and will be a major headache for tune ups. Anyone know for sure? I
didn't think there was that much difference between the 289 and the
351W. CJ?
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Guest 25 February 2005 20:24:36 permanent link ]
 Spike wrote:> 65 Mustang> Considering 351W. Restorer says he thinks the fit between exhaust> manifolds at the shock towers and at steering box is extremely tight> and will be a major headache for tune ups.

This swap has been done many, many times. The 351 Windsor is just a
raised deck version of the 260/289/302. Clearance around the steering
box is identical to the smaller block. The taller deck height puts the
spark plugs closer to the shock towers, true, but how often are you
going to change the plugs anyway? I would worry about a restorer who
is not aware of the ubiquity of Windsor-into-1st-ge­n swaps.

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Spike 26 February 2005 00:34:08 permanent link ]
 WOW! Somebody never heard of you? Seems to me it was in all the
papers.... LOL

Hey thanks, CJ


On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:04:41 -0700, CobraJet <68gtcs@streetracer­.sfv>
wrote:
In article <CcSdnbc3iPLGw4LfRV­n-gA@comcast.com>, Mark C.><mustango656@com­cast.net> wrote:>
The fit if fine. Although the 351 is taller and wider it still fits between >> the shock towers and you can buy headers specifically made for this swap. >> Changing plugs is no problem. I've had 351Ws in 4 of my projects. I'm not >> sure where your getting the CJ reference, though. I never heard of that.>
You've never heard of me? Everyone in the uncivilized world knows>what I am.>
The stock W exhaust manifold *is* wider at the rear than a 289>part. I have no experience with the fit in an early car, though. An>other alternative might be the HP 289 castings as they don't "flare>out" like the W's.>
-- >> I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates who once said, "I drank >> what?".>>
I r34lly n33d t0 g37 l41d>>
"Spike" <jma@snowcrest.net>­ wrote in message >> news:qvht11pouogane­bvhgnd3s7thrpvq0ii6m­@4ax.com...>> > 65 Mustang>> > Considering 351W. Restorer says he thinks the fit between exhaust>> > manifolds at the shock towers and at steering box is extremely tight>> > and will be a major headache for tune ups. Anyone know for sure? I>> > didn't think there was that much difference between the 289 and the>> > 351W. CJ?>> > Hey! Spikey Likes IT!>> > 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok>> > Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior>> > Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8">> > w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16 >>

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Spike 26 February 2005 00:42:20 permanent link ]
 Sorry for throwing you for a loop with the CJ reference.... but you'll
see what that refers to in one of the responses.

Any of those projects a 65 or 66? Ford made the 67s a bit bigger.

I knew the engine would fit, but the installer had a 351W in a later
year so he had more room, and wanted to make sure I knew it was going
to be tight around the towers and steering box. So I figured I had
better do some follow up before getting in to deep. After all, I sure
would not want to have to jack up the engine every time I wanted to
clean/change the plugs.

Thanks for the help.

By the way, happen to recall what kind of gas mileage you got with the
351W. Wondered how it would compare to the 289.

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:20:48 -0800, "Mark C."
<mustango656@comcas­t.net> wrote:
The fit if fine. Although the 351 is taller and wider it still fits between >the shock towers and you can buy headers specifically made for this swap. >Changing plugs is no problem. I've had 351Ws in 4 of my projects. I'm not >sure where your getting the CJ reference, though. I never heard of that.

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Spike 26 February 2005 10:11:59 permanent link ]
 So, anyone got an idea what I'm going to expect for gas mileage?

That has got to be the last part of the equation since I have grave
doubts that gas will ever get back to 35 cents a gallon... and I never
did finish getting my silverware and glassware sets... but I did
finish the dinnerware set... and the first wife found a use for it but
I kept ducking.... : ) LOL
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John 26 February 2005 16:03:08 permanent link ]
 "Spike" <jma@snowcrest.net>­ wrote in message
news:ik402156251dn6­ccgdh00rdc41bho61dvh­@4ax.com...> So, anyone got an idea what I'm going to expect for gas mileage?>
That has got to be the last part of the equation since I have grave> doubts that gas will ever get back to 35 cents a gallon... and I never> did finish getting my silverware and glassware sets... but I did> finish the dinnerware set... and the first wife found a use for it but> I kept ducking.... : ) LOL

That depends on what you do to the 351 and how you drive her. IIRC, there
are stroker crank kits all the way up to 427 c.i. for this puppy. ;-)­ The
thrill factor is inversely related to the gas mileage!

--
John
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Spike 27 February 2005 01:37:27 permanent link ]
 That's a given for nearly any power plant. But since this is a daily
driver street machine I can't go crazy with it... maybe a Paxton.....

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 07:03:08 -0500, "John"
<mooresjc@chartermi­.deletethisandonedot­.net> wrote:
"Spike" <jma@snowcrest.net>­ wrote in message >news:ik402156251dn­6ccgdh00rdc41bho61dv­h@4ax.com...>> So, anyone got an idea what I'm going to expect for gas mileage?>>
That has got to be the last part of the equation since I have grave>> doubts that gas will ever get back to 35 cents a gallon... and I never>> did finish getting my silverware and glassware sets... but I did>> finish the dinnerware set... and the first wife found a use for it but>> I kept ducking.... : ) LOL>
That depends on what you do to the 351 and how you drive her. IIRC, there >are stroker crank kits all the way up to 427 c.i. for this puppy. ;-)­ The >thrill factor is inversely related to the gas mileage!

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