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CarGuru > Ford > Chysler 300 = BIG! Ford 500 = small. 2 February 2005 06:02:09

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Chysler 300 = BIG! Ford 500 = small.

RichA 30 January 2005 05:04:16
 Chrysler has obviously tapped something
with it's 300 sedan. Despite it's oddball
looks, it's uniqueness has apparently caught
on big with the buyers. So what does Ford do?
They bring out the 500. A sedan that has finally
lost whatever uniqueness the LTD and Grand Marquis
had and become a pale immitation of any number of
foreign sedans. How does Ford expect to capture
any kind of (more like retain!) market share with
an offering like this? People will not buy it.
The Japanese produce more reliable family sedans,
older people with money drive European, Lincolns
or Cadillacs.
Look for the 500 to last at most, two years without
major revisions or cancellation.
It's too bad. Ford had a chance and they blew it.
This is Ford's GTO.
-Rich
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Joe 30 January 2005 19:47:32 permanent link ]
 RichA <none@none.com> wrote in
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Chrysler has obviously tapped something> with it's 300 sedan. Despite it's oddball> looks, it's uniqueness has apparently caught> on big with the buyers. So what does Ford do?> They bring out the 500. A sedan that has finally> lost whatever uniqueness the LTD and Grand Marquis> had and become a pale immitation of any number of> foreign sedans. How does Ford expect to capture > any kind of (more like retain!) market share with> an offering like this? People will not buy it.> The Japanese produce more reliable family sedans,> older people with money drive European, Lincolns> or Cadillacs. > Look for the 500 to last at most, two years without> major revisions or cancellation. > It's too bad. Ford had a chance and they blew it.> This is Ford's GTO.> -Rich

Agreed, except for the 'GTO' comparison. Even though GM doesn't know
how to sell it, the GTO performs.

Joe
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John C. 30 January 2005 20:26:09 permanent link ]
 
"Joe" <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in message
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Agreed, except for the 'GTO' comparison. Even though GM doesn't know> how to sell it, the GTO performs.>

It looks like the changes to the '05s are having some effect.

One of the larger local dealerships here sent their last six '04 GTO's down to
wholesale auction. They were just taking up space, even $9,000 + 0% couldn't
move them.

The same dealer has a waiting list for the '05 model, with over a dozen names
on it. Quite a turnaround in customer interest.

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John C.
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Joe 31 January 2005 07:33:17 permanent link ]
 "John C." <jonc@shore.net> wrote in news:BU7Ld.249$oR6.­183@trndny04:
"Joe" <avoidingspam@nospa­m.com> wrote in message> news:364dskF4phja2U­3@individual.net...>­>
Agreed, except for the 'GTO' comparison. Even though GM doesn't>> know how to sell it, the GTO performs.>>
It looks like the changes to the '05s are having some effect.>
One of the larger local dealerships here sent their last six '04> GTO's down to > wholesale auction. They were just taking up space, even $9,000 + 0%> couldn't move them.>
The same dealer has a waiting list for the '05 model, with over a> dozen names > on it. Quite a turnaround in customer interest.>
--> John C.> '03 Cobra Convt.

It's hard to disagree with a 400hp LS2.

Joe
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Joe 2 February 2005 06:02:09 permanent link ]
 ZombyWoof <Zomby-Woof@Zappa.n­et> wrote in
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On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 00:15:38 GMT, "JohnR66" <nospam@att.net> wrote> something wonderfully witty:>
"RichA" <none@none.com> wrote in message >>news:racov05aht88­k2fc2u34uth6gr1uo5t7­4m@4ax.com...>>> Chrysler has obviously tapped something>>> with it's 300 sedan. Despite it's oddball>>> looks, it's uniqueness has apparently caught>>> on big with the buyers. So what does Ford do?>>> They bring out the 500. A sedan that has finally>>> lost whatever uniqueness the LTD and Grand Marquis>>> had and become a pale immitation of any number of>>> foreign sedans. How does Ford expect to capture>>> any kind of (more like retain!) market share with>>> an offering like this? People will not buy it.>>> The Japanese produce more reliable family sedans,>>> older people with money drive European, Lincolns>>> or Cadillacs.>>> Look for the 500 to last at most, two years without>>> major revisions or cancellation.>>> It's too bad. Ford had a chance and they blew it.>>> This is Ford's GTO.>>> -Rich>>
Ford wants to capture back the midsized sedan market that has largly>>gone to the Japanese makes. It is often dangerous to introduce a car>>that looks radically new or cutting edge. I'd say the 500 looks>>okay, not daring nor bland. I took a look at one in the showroom>>while getting my oil changed. I't looks like full sized car with the>>high roof line. >>
I've seen a couple on the road already. Haven't seen any GTOs.>>
John >>
Just saw my very first GTO on the road yesterday. Red `04, running> temp tags so it was probably just bought. A guy in a mineral gray> `05 GT does the commute at the same time I do so I see him daily,> along with a girl in a `05 Lime (or whatever it's called) V6 with> the black stripes.

I've seen more GTOs on the road than '05 Mustang GTs so far. Seen a
lot of V6s.

There's a guy who used to drop his kid off at my son's old grade
school in a Lambo. Unreal.

Joe
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