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'96 Explorer XLT: Best location for tube subwoofer?

Bob 3 March 2005 23:51:07
 
I just installed a Bazooka EL8A 8" amplified sub in my 1996 Ford
Explorer. Does anyone have any recommendations on the best location
for it? Now I have it just behind the rear seat facing back towards
the rear hatch due to wire length restrictions, but I'm willing to
extend the wires if there is a better location for it.

Thanks.
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Dr Rastis Faf00fnik 4 March 2005 07:25:31 permanent link ]
 
Why not use it for a headrest?
I TOTALLY enjoy jamming those with the loud booming stereos! it works GREAT,
sometimes blows up the amp or pops the speakers. All we do is key up TWO
high power VHF or UHF transmitters at the same time, on the same frequency.
The resulting squeal comes thru their system AT FULL VOLUME hahaha.Since it
gets directly into the amp and cabling the head end volume controls DONT
WORK.
I wish i had a picture of some of the looks we get :)­

Yeah..use the boomtube for a headrest..that will work.


"Bob" <am_dew@REMOVepanix­This.com> wrote in message
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I just installed a Bazooka EL8A 8" amplified sub in my 1996 Ford> Explorer. Does anyone have any recommendations on the best location> for it? Now I have it just behind the rear seat facing back towards> the rear hatch due to wire length restrictions, but I'm willing to> extend the wires if there is a better location for it.>
Thanks.


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Charlie Bress 4 March 2005 18:03:31 permanent link ]
 The high priced talent makes music the way they think it should be played.
The recording engineer adjusts the sound so it reflects his taste and maybe
that of the talent.
The folks make the play back equipment take pains to reproduce the sound
without distorting it or coloring it.

Them along comes somebody without a ounce of talent and screws it up beyond
belief and says "listen to how great this is"

Charlie


"DR RASTIS FAF00FNIK" <FAF00FNIK@FAF00FNI­K.ORG.org> wrote in message
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Why not use it for a headrest?> I TOTALLY enjoy jamming those with the loud booming stereos! it works > GREAT,> sometimes blows up the amp or pops the speakers. All we do is key up TWO> high power VHF or UHF transmitters at the same time, on the same > frequency.> The resulting squeal comes thru their system AT FULL VOLUME hahaha.Since > it> gets directly into the amp and cabling the head end volume controls DONT> WORK.> I wish i had a picture of some of the looks we get :)­>
Yeah..use the boomtube for a headrest..that will work.>
"Bob" <am_dew@REMOVepanix­This.com> wrote in message> news:d07prb$ite$1@r­eader2.panix.com...>­>
I just installed a Bazooka EL8A 8" amplified sub in my 1996 Ford>> Explorer. Does anyone have any recommendations on the best location>> for it? Now I have it just behind the rear seat facing back towards>> the rear hatch due to wire length restrictions, but I'm willing to>> extend the wires if there is a better location for it.>>
Thanks.>


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Bob 4 March 2005 19:18:36 permanent link ]
 
My reasons for installing a sub are very simple. There is no way even
good quality 5x7 speakers (I have Boston Acoustics) in the doors can
reproduce anywhere near *natural* bass. I am not into playing my
system so loud to cause hearing damage or bother other drivers. I also
did not do it to "look cool"...I am well past that point in my life.
It's very simple...I did it because I enjoy good sound.

Now, does anyone have any suggestions for placement of the sub without
a lecture attached? :-)­

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Kevin D 5 March 2005 02:40:26 permanent link ]
 Sorry Bob...looks like you're gonna get lectured from everyone here! :)­

"Bob" <am_dew@REMOVepanix­This.com> wrote in message
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My reasons for installing a sub are very simple. There is no way even> good quality 5x7 speakers (I have Boston Acoustics) in the doors can> reproduce anywhere near *natural* bass. I am not into playing my> system so loud to cause hearing damage or bother other drivers. I also> did not do it to "look cool"...I am well past that point in my life.> It's very simple...I did it because I enjoy good sound.>
Now, does anyone have any suggestions for placement of the sub without> a lecture attached? :-)­>


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Wabbitslayer 5 March 2005 16:46:59 permanent link ]
 try placing it at an angle towards one of the back corners instead of
directly perpendicular to the back hatch.

how far away is the driver from the back hatch?


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Vic Klein 5 March 2005 16:59:17 permanent link ]
 I don't think location for subwoofers is particularly critical as those
freqencies are non-directional and penetrate through things pretty well
(hence the less helpful comments on the installation concept). I don't know
the dimensions of your "tube", but one option might be to locate it under
the rear seat. Careful placement might not even interfere with the ability
to lower the seat, and you will save the space in the rear for cargo. I
mounted my CD changer under the seat early on, positioned to fit between the
seat frame members when the seat is folded up, and have been quite happy
with that.

=Vic=
Bear Gap, PA

"Bob" <am_dew@REMOVepanix­This.com> wrote in message
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My reasons for installing a sub are very simple. There is no way even> good quality 5x7 speakers (I have Boston Acoustics) in the doors can> reproduce anywhere near *natural* bass. I am not into playing my> system so loud to cause hearing damage or bother other drivers. I also> did not do it to "look cool"...I am well past that point in my life.> It's very simple...I did it because I enjoy good sound.>
Now, does anyone have any suggestions for placement of the sub without> a lecture attached? :-)­>


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Bob 5 March 2005 19:26:13 permanent link ]
 wabbitslayer <wabbitslayer@hotma­il.com> wrote:
:try placing it at an angle towards one of the back corners instead of
:directly perpendicular to the back hatch.
:
:how far away is the driver from the back hatch?

Thanks Wabbitslayer. The driver seat is probably about 7 feet or so
from the back hatch.
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Anastazi 6 March 2005 03:24:56 permanent link ]
 am_dew@REMOVepanixTh­is.com (Bob) wrotenews:d09u8c$59­7$1@reader2.panix.co­m:
My reasons for installing a sub are very simple. There is no way even> good quality 5x7 speakers (I have Boston Acoustics) in the doors can> reproduce anywhere near *natural* bass. I am not into playing my> system so loud to cause hearing damage or bother other drivers. I also> did not do it to "look cool"...I am well past that point in my life. > It's very simple...I did it because I enjoy good sound.>
Now, does anyone have any suggestions for placement of the sub without> a lecture attached? :-)­>

No need to place it anywhere for better sound.

Like the subwoofer in a 5.1 surround system at home, anyplace you put it is
fine. Bass sounds are non-directional.

I made my own subwoofer out of 2 10" base speakers, two of the wired in
together and just put them under my rear seat, out of sight, out of mind.

I found tweaking my amp to include a little of the midrange in hrtz makes
the sound just right as the door speaker do high and middle high perfectly.

On another note, I absolutely am amazed and astounded that a simple little
subwoofer is not standard on all cars. Cost in bulk is nothing to car
companies yet sound and tunes are enhanced 100%.

msm.
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Anastazi 6 March 2005 03:33:51 permanent link ]
 am_dew@REMOVepanixTh­is.com (Bob) wrotenews:d0citv$bn­3$1@reader1.panix.co­m:
THanks Vic. Putting it under the rear seat is a good idea, but the> tube is about 9" diameter and it won't fit there.>

I had a large Pioneer bazooka type tube also, and I got broken into and the
window destroyed because some mexican wanted it and took it.

It got stolen because I too couldn't fit it under my rear seat.

So this time I made my own subwoofer and fit it under the seat, and now I
sleep a lot easier and it actually sounds better.

Total cost? $20.00

one cardboard flat box
1/4 can of spray paint.
some wires.
two used 10" bass speakers
a tiny bit of solder
an exacto knife
12 plastic screws, nuts and two washers each.

Simply put your speakers on top of your box and trace out the inside
diameter.
then cut out the two or one circles.
Use a filleting pointy knife, start 12 holes with the speaker still held
down as a template.
Hold speaker now under/in the box, and push plastic bolt with washer
through.
Secure from top with another washer and nut.
Do for all 12/2 speakers.
Run split wire from amp and solder two wires to each end so you have now a
total of four wires coming off of two.
Run the two postives to the two positives of the speakers and the two
grounds to the two grounds.
Spray paint your cardboard box whatever color you want after using
strapping tape to secure it securly on all edges and sides.

Sit back and rock on!

msm
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Anastazi 6 March 2005 03:37:15 permanent link ]
 "Charlie Bress" <cbress@paamail.com­>
wrotenews:P­tydnW6JX­ZUo97XfRVn-ow@comcas­t.com:
The high priced talent makes music the way they think it should be> played. The recording engineer adjusts the sound so it reflects his> taste and maybe that of the talent.> The folks make the play back equipment take pains to reproduce the sound> without distorting it or coloring it.>
Them along comes somebody without a ounce of talent and screws it up> beyond belief and says "listen to how great this is">
Charlie>

You're missing one obvious point. Every human hears sounds slightly
diferent and women and other races hear sounds diferent from men and other
races.

Also, there are large variation in hearing due to genetics and life
experiences that change the way you hear, like loud sounds, too much use of
headphones and more.

Everyone needs to adjust music to their own tastes and hearing because
while I might not hear bass as well as you do, high sounds drive me crazy.

A truly talented engineer makes the sound even across the board, and you
can always adjust your stereo or tv for your own hearing.

See?

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Wabbitslayer 8 March 2005 03:17:18 permanent link ]
 
This is a subwoofer we're discussing. Non-directional.

"we" are? I'll stand by what I said.


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Big Bill 8 March 2005 06:08:41 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 18:17:18 -0500, "wabbitslayer"
<wabbitslayer@hotma­il.com> wrote:
This is a subwoofer we're discussing. Non-directional.>
"we" are? I'll stand by what I said.>
Yes, we. It's in the thread, and it's specifically what you responded
to.
Right there in the subject, even.
Subwoofer puts out bass; bass is non-directional. That's why the
location of a subwoofer isn't critical.

--
Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"
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Jonah 9 March 2005 02:08:55 permanent link ]
 I can't remember where I saw it, but someone makes an 8" or 10" sub that
goes into the little netted cubby in the back. You can probably Google it.

Bob wrote:
My reasons for installing a sub are very simple. There is no way even> good quality 5x7 speakers (I have Boston Acoustics) in the doors can> reproduce anywhere near *natural* bass. I am not into playing my> system so loud to cause hearing damage or bother other drivers. I also> did not do it to "look cool"...I am well past that point in my life. > It's very simple...I did it because I enjoy good sound.>
Now, does anyone have any suggestions for placement of the sub without> a lecture attached? :-)­>
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Randy Pavatte 13 March 2005 17:33:09 permanent link ]
 I've read this string with much interest. I have a Bazooka 8" bass tube
(likely an older model than yours) in my car, and it gives me just
enough bass without being overpowering.
However, the car its in is a hatchback, so I have it placed against the
rear seat to one side. My installer played around with positioning
before securing it in place, and this location was the most unobtrusive
while maximizing bass effect.
He told me that, in my case, the angle of my rear hatch would help
"deflect" the bass forward towards me.

In my opinion, a bass tube such as the Bazooka, amplified or not, is
best suited for smaller spaces. I also own a 96 Explorer, and given the
distance between the driver and any reasonable location of the tube,
among other factors (road noise for example) subs of this kind will make
little impact.
I'm a 40 year old who spent over a dozen years selling stereo equipment,
including mobile audio.
My recommendation, if you can allow the space, is to get a good sealed
box for a 10" sub, and amplify it externally. A sealed sub will give you
the "tightest" response for your bass, rather than just boom.
The box size, at most, might take up a cube area about 12" behind your
rear seat.

I realize theft may be a concern. Does your Explorer have the factory
tint?
Mine has factory tint, but I wanted aftermarket tint also. The result is
an almost mirror-like effect from outside on all but the front door
windows (which are only darker because they had no factory tint).
Its all but impossible to see inside from anywhere but the front doors
and windshield, yet my tint is not darker than legally allowed.

I apologize for the length of this reply, but since I have first-hand
experience with both the vehicle and the sub I wanted to weigh in. Best
wishes on whatever you do.

Randy

We're living in a world that's been pulled over our eyes to blind us
from the truth. Where are you, white rabbit?

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Robrobrob 26 March 2005 07:39:14 permanent link ]
 "DR RASTIS FAF00FNIK" wrote:>Why not use it for a headrest?>I TOTALLY enjoy jamming those with the loud booming stereos! it works>GREAT,>someti­mes blows up the amp or pops the speakers. All we do is key up>TWO>high power VHF or UHF transmitters at the same time, on the same>frequency.>The­ resulting squeal comes thru their system AT FULL VOLUME>hahaha.Since­ it>gets directly into the amp and cabling the head end volume controls>DONT>WORK.­>I wish i had a picture of some of the looks we get >
Yeah..use the boomtube for a headrest..that will work.>
"Bob" <am_dew@REMOVepanix­This.com> wrote in message>news:d07prb­$ite@reader2.panix.c­om...>>
I just installed a Bazooka EL8A 8" amplified sub in my 1996 Ford>> Explorer. Does anyone have any recommendations on the best>location>> for it? Now I have it just behind the rear seat facing back>towards>> the rear hatch due to wire length restrictions, but I’m>willing to>> extend the wires if there is a better location for it.>>
Thanks.</font>

I’ve never heard of two VHF transmitters jamming boom cars. Where did
you discover this intriguing technique?




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John Riggs 26 March 2005 07:50:35 permanent link ]
 I'm a tech, and I've never heard such a thing. I have seen EMP devices
deployed that work wonders though.

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| "DR RASTIS FAF00FNIK" wrote:
| >Why not use it for a headrest?
| >I TOTALLY enjoy jamming those with the loud booming stereos! it works
| >GREAT,
| >sometimes blows up the amp or pops the speakers. All we do is key up
| >TWO
| >high power VHF or UHF transmitters at the same time, on the same
| >frequency.
| >The resulting squeal comes thru their system AT FULL VOLUME
| >hahaha.Since it
| >gets directly into the amp and cabling the head end volume controls
| >DONT
| >WORK.
| >I wish i had a picture of some of the looks we get
| >
| >Yeah..use the boomtube for a headrest..that will work.
| >
| >
| >"Bob" <am_dew@REMOVepanix­This.com> wrote in message
| >news:d07prb$ite@re­ader2.panix.com...
| >>
| >> I just installed a Bazooka EL8A 8" amplified sub in my 1996 Ford
| >> Explorer. Does anyone have any recommendations on the best
| >location
| >> for it? Now I have it just behind the rear seat facing back
| >towards
| >> the rear hatch due to wire length restrictions, but I'm
| >willing to
| >> extend the wires if there is a better location for it.
| >>
| >> Thanks.</font>
|
| I've never heard of two VHF transmitters jamming boom cars. Where did
| you discover this intriguing technique?
|
|
|
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Dr Rastis Faf00fnik 26 March 2005 10:21:56 permanent link ]
 
"John Riggs" <johnri60626@netzer­o.net> wrote in message
news:4244db7d$1_4@x­-privat.org...> I'm a tech, and I've never heard such a thing. I have seen EMP devices> deployed that work wonders though.> | I've never heard of two VHF transmitters jamming boom cars. Where did> | you discover this intriguing technique?


Try it..it works. You can simulate it with two hand held radios and a boom
box. Simply put the two handhelds on the same channel, key them both and
listen to what it does to the boombox.
The resulting "beatnote" will be detected in the boombox.


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John Riggs 26 March 2005 12:09:44 permanent link ]
 ...but then, with the amount of wattage necessary to accomplish this
feat, won't it be in violation of FCC regulations? I believe it does, since
it would interfere with radio and television reception. You see, the very
nature of what you propose dictates that it must violate those regulations,
and I certainly hate paying fines, particularly large federal ones.

"DR RASTIS FAF00FNIK" <FAF00FNIK@FAF00FNI­K.ORG.org> wrote in message
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| "John Riggs" <johnri60626@netzer­o.net> wrote in message
| news:4244db7d$1_4@x­-privat.org...
| > I'm a tech, and I've never heard such a thing. I have seen EMP
devices
| > deployed that work wonders though.
| > | I've never heard of two VHF transmitters jamming boom cars. Where did
| > | you discover this intriguing technique?
|
|
| Try it..it works. You can simulate it with two hand held radios and a boom
| box. Simply put the two handhelds on the same channel, key them both and
| listen to what it does to the boombox.
| The resulting "beatnote" will be detected in the boombox.
|
| >
| >
|
|


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