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Customer Satisfaction Program 04B22
C. E. White 24 February 2005 20:42:56
	Has anyone had the Ford dealer add the "magic" ingedient to there transmission? Did it make any difference in the shifting? Ed
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Jim Warman 24 February 2005 23:43:21 [ permanent link ]
	Ed, this stuff isn't supposed to make your transmission shift differently..... it is supposed to keep it from shifting differently at a later date. "C. E. White" <cewhite3@nospam.com> wrote in message news:421E0410.C88AB7DC@nospam.com...> Has anyone had the Ford dealer add the "magic" ingedient to> there transmission? Did it make any difference in the> shifting?> Ed
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Dicko 25 February 2005 04:13:04 [ permanent link ]
	Something I havent figured out yet. If I take the car in and have the secret sauce added to the transmission, and then at a later date change out the transmission fluid with the owner's manual specified Mercon V fluid, do I need to go back and have the secret sauce added again? To answer your question, I havent had it done yet. dickm On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:42:56 -0500, "C. E. White" <cewhite3@nospam.com> wrote: Has anyone had the Ford dealer add the "magic" ingedient to>there transmission? Did it make any difference in the>shifting?> Ed
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Big Shoe 25 February 2005 04:49:33 [ permanent link ]
	I had the additive put in a couple weeks ago and have noticed no difference in shifting. I also wondered about the fluid change question. Don't know the answer to that one. It seems plain to me that Ford would have a reason not to honor the warranty if the transmission fails and the additive was not put in, so feel it is really necessary to have them add it. On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:13:04 -0600, dicko <drwho@universalclock.com> wrote: Something I havent figured out yet. If I take the car in and have the>secret sauce added to the transmission, and then at a later date>change out the transmission fluid with the owner's manual specified>Mercon V fluid, do I need to go back and have the secret sauce added>again?> To answer your question, I havent had it done yet.> dickm> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:42:56 -0500, "C. E. White"><cewhite3@nospam.com> wrote:> Has anyone had the Ford dealer add the "magic" ingedient to>>there transmission? Did it make any difference in the>>shifting?>> Ed
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Syclone 25 February 2005 04:52:58 [ permanent link ]
	The "secret sauce" in the case of my 2003 XLT was not to add something to the transmission, but to reprogram the shift control program in the computer. This so totally changed the shift charactistics of the vehicle that it seemed to be a different transmission. Shifts now are so smooth and timely that they are almost unnoticeable. SY Cohen
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Stevef 25 February 2005 04:58:46 [ permanent link ]
	btw, the secret sauce tastes great!! "C. E. White" <cewhite3@nospam.com> wrote in message news:421E0410.C88AB7DC@nospam.com... Has anyone had the Ford dealer add the "magic" ingedient to there transmission? Did it make any difference in the shifting? Ed
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Jim Warman 25 February 2005 09:10:44 [ permanent link ]
	I haven't seen any TSBs on updated fluid for these transmissions. Safe to say that Fords major concern is making sure these units get past the warranty period. As dealer techs, we are expected to know that these models require this so-called "secret sauce". If someone reminds mr, I'll check the March DVD manual for any reference when it becomes available. I would expect a note on this additive in the fluid spec sub-section of the auto trans subsection of the driveline subsection of the manual. The directions are mistaken... when they say shake well, they mean shake the ever-lovin' p*ss out of the product before use. Side note to Ed... if you are having shifting concerns, e-mail me your VIN off-list and I'll run OASIS for you. "dicko" <drwho@universalclock.com> wrote in message news:1uqs11l9hnpvhf0vr45f83a2lgkmi0u0pt@4ax.com...> Something I havent figured out yet. If I take the car in and have the> secret sauce added to the transmission, and then at a later date> change out the transmission fluid with the owner's manual specified> Mercon V fluid, do I need to go back and have the secret sauce added> again?> To answer your question, I havent had it done yet.> dickm> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:42:56 -0500, "C. E. White"> <cewhite3@nospam.com> wrote:> Has anyone had the Ford dealer add the "magic" ingedient to> >there transmission? Did it make any difference in the> >shifting?> >
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Big Shoe 25 February 2005 19:01:38 [ permanent link ]
	One possibility here is that Ford got hold of a batch of fluid that did not meet specifications. I wondered about that when I got the letter. If that is the case, then fluid changes in the future should not be a problem (assuming the new fluid meets spec). On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:10:44 GMT, "Jim Warman" <mechanic@tenalpsulet.net> wrote: I haven't seen any TSBs on updated fluid for these transmissions. Safe to>say that Fords major concern is making sure these units get past the>warranty period. As dealer techs, we are expected to know that these models>require this so-called "secret sauce". If someone reminds mr, I'll check the>March DVD manual for any reference when it becomes available. I would expect>a note on this additive in the fluid spec sub-section of the auto trans>subsection of the driveline subsection of the manual.> The directions are mistaken... when they say shake well, they mean shake the>ever-lovin' p*ss out of the product before use.> Side note to Ed... if you are having shifting concerns, e-mail me your VIN>off-list and I'll run OASIS for you.> "dicko" <drwho@universalclock.com> wrote in message>news:1uqs11l9hnpvhf0vr45f83a2lgkmi0u0pt@4ax.com...>> Something I havent figured out yet. If I take the car in and have the>> secret sauce added to the transmission, and then at a later date>> change out the transmission fluid with the owner's manual specified>> Mercon V fluid, do I need to go back and have the secret sauce added>> again?>> To answer your question, I havent had it done yet.>> dickm>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:42:56 -0500, "C. E. White">> <cewhite3@nospam.com> wrote:>> Has anyone had the Ford dealer add the "magic" ingedient to>> >there transmission? Did it make any difference in the>> >shifting?>> >
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Jim Warman 26 February 2005 07:14:09 [ permanent link ]
	Ed.... our PTS website seems to be having difficulty and I can't get to OASIS right now.... Joggle my memory tomorrow and I'll check again for you. We only ever sold one of the last model T-Birds and I never did get the chance to drive it so I'm a poor comparison. If anything, I would expect the car to shift smoother than the Ex.... Once oasis is back up and running, we can check and see if there is anything regarding harsh shifting concerns. All I can tell you at this point is that the fluid additive isn't designed to intentionally alter shift feel.
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Jim Warman 27 February 2005 21:55:18 [ permanent link ]
	OK, Ed... I found what we need. SSM (Special Service Message) 18208..... sorry I can't do a cut and past - copyright laws and such.... Mercon V will still be the fluid of choice but the packaging date must be AFTER May 10, 2004. Mercon V was refomulated to meet the requirement of the later transmissions. The production line came "out of step" with itself for a short period. If the reformulated oil had arrived first, we wouldn't even know of the reformulation. As for your car.... it was built 11/06/2003.... no warranty history at all but 04B22 is still outstanding. There is one SSM (17852) that deals with transmissions without the SportShift feature but it mentions having an E displayed for gearshift position and DTCs in memory. Being that my stock in trade is mostly trucks, I am unfamiliar with the SportShift feature but if your car is equipped with this feature I would turn it off and see what happens. HTH "C. E. White" <cewhite3@nospam.com> wrote in message news:421F76F8.2ECD9216@nospam.com...> Jim Warman wrote:> > I haven't seen any TSBs on updated fluid for these transmissions. Safe say that Fords major concern is making sure these units get past the> > warranty period. As dealer techs, we are expected to know that these models> > require this so-called "secret sauce". If someone reminds mr, I'll check March DVD manual for any reference when it becomes available. I would expect> > a note on this additive in the fluid spec sub-section of the auto trans> > subsection of the driveline subsection of the manual.> > The directions are mistaken... when they say shake well, they mean shake ever-lovin' p*ss out of the product before use.> > Side note to Ed... if you are having shifting concerns, e-mail me your off-list and I'll run OASIS for you.1FAHP60A44Y105325> Jim,> I actually have a 2004 Thunderbird, not an Explorer. I> bought it used earlier this year. At that time it only had a> around 3500 miles. It now has around 7000 miles. The> transmission shifting is OK as far as I know, although it is> a little harsher than my Expedition. I do not know what is> normal. My VIN is 1FAHP60A44Y105325.> Thanks and regards,> Ed White
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Jim Warman 28 February 2005 02:21:24 [ permanent link ]
	That's it in a nutshell..... "Big Shoe" <right_old@mynet.com> wrote in message news:0i94215phgosu4j7k7uu4dfl7utqlgbtrm@4ax.com...> Sounds like the answer to some of the questions about the additive.> If fluid was reformulated after May 10, 2004, then it is highly> possible that some of the old formulation was still around and was> installed in new vehicles. That would explain the need for the> additive and also would say that fluid changes would cause no problem> if the reformulated fluid was used.>
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Tt14tt 22 March 2005 01:22:28 [ permanent link ]
	"cewhite3" wrote: > Jim Warman wrote: > > OK, Ed... I found what we need. > > SSM (Special Service Message) 18208..... sorry I can't do a > cut and past - > > copyright laws and such.... Mercon V will still be the fluid > of choice but > > the packaging date must be AFTER May 10, 2004. Mercon V was > refomulated to > > meet the requirement of the later transmissions. > > The production line came "out of step" with itself for a > short period. If > > the reformulated oil had arrived first, we wouldn't even > know of the > > reformulation. > > As for your car.... it was built 11/06/2003.... no warranty > history at all > > but 04B22 is still outstanding. There is one SSM (17852) > that deals with > > transmissions without the SportShift feature but it mentions > having an E > > displayed for gearshift position and DTCs in memory. > > Being that my stock in trade is mostly trucks, I am > unfamiliar with the > > SportShift feature but if your car is equipped with this > feature I would > > turn it off and see what happens. > > Thanks Jim. I'm dropping off the Tbird tonight to get the > secret sauce added. > Ed Hello, I scheduled my service appointment too far out for this week. And all of a sudden I noticed about a week 2 weeks ago I started to experience delays in shifting. I am curious whether getting the "special sauce" will correct any issues or just prevent them from getting worse. The letter says "over time, may cause delayed/harsh reverse engagements", does this mean that once the shifting problems start that they are irreversible? I had a problem scheduling the service appointment with work and everything and now I am scared that I did damage to my explorer. Thanks this thread has been very helpful! kevin -- Posted using the http://www.autoforumz.com interface, at author's request Articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards Topic URL: http://www.autoforumz.com/Ford-Explorer-Customer-Satisfaction-Program-04B22-ftopict104790.html Visit Topic URL to contact author (reg. req'd). Report abuse: http://www.autoforumz.com/eform.php?p=507094
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