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CarGuru > Driving > Orange County CA Toll Roads: Largely Successful 1 May 2005 23:46:26

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Orange County CA Toll Roads: Largely Successful
Scott M. Kozel 1 May 2005 07:33:08
	"Orange County Toll Roads: Largely Successful" (3/30/2005) http://www.rppi.org/pb38.pdf Despite well-publicized financial difficulties with Orange County's San Joaquin Hills Toll Road, this policy brief finds that the County's three toll roads have made a positive difference overall, taking nearly 300,000 cars per day off county freeways. Reason's Robert Poole explores the lessons learned from Orange County's experience with start-up toll roads and the implications for any new state enabling legislation permitting toll roads. -- Scott M. Kozel Highway and Transportation History Websites Virginia/Maryland/Washington, D.C. http://www.roadstothefuture.com Philadelphia and Delaware Valley http://www.pennways.com
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Mike Tantillo 1 May 2005 08:15:03 [ permanent link ]
	I drove on Toll 73 last summer. I was impressed with the road, I was very very very disapointed with the toll collection system though. I pull up to this nice wide big plaza, and I'm third in line at the booth. The car in front of me seems to be taking forever. Why? Because he had to feed dollar bills into a bill slot and put coins into a coin slot one at a time. Haven't these folks ever heard of a coin basket? I figured they'd probably take exact change, so I brought exact change, and wound up spending well over a minute feeding almost $4 in quarters and dimes into the slot one by one. Next time, I'm just going to take the 5 directly to the 405, unless I happen to purchase a FasTrak to complement my ETC transponder collection (you might be a roadgeek if you have more than 3 types of ETC transponders in your car, all for occasional use...haha). Scott M. Kozel wrote:> "Orange County Toll Roads: Largely Successful" (3/30/2005)> http://www.rppi.org/pb38.pdf> Despite well-publicized financial difficulties with Orange County's Joaquin Hills Toll Road, this policy brief finds that the County's three> toll roads have made a positive difference overall, taking nearly> 300,000 cars per day off county freeways. Reason's Robert Poole> explores the lessons learned from Orange County's experience with> start-up toll roads and the implications for any new state enabling> legislation permitting toll roads.> --> Scott M. Kozel Highway and Transportation History Websites> Virginia/Maryland/Washington, D.C. http://www.roadstothefuture.com> Philadelphia and Delaware Valley http://www.pennways.com
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Dave 1 May 2005 08:34:14 [ permanent link ]
	I think they do have coin baskets at the offramps, but they've just recently added automated collection systems at the barier, if I recall. I don't remember seeing them on there until sometime in 2004, but I usually have a FasTrak available so I may just never have noticed them. The best thing about the FasTrak is that it's made my common car easier to find in a parking lot. Dave
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Paul DeRocco 1 May 2005 21:07:40 [ permanent link ]
	"Mike Tantillo" <mjtantillo@yahoo.com> wrote> I drove on Toll 73 last summer. I was impressed with the road, I was> very very very disapointed with the toll collection system though. I> pull up to this nice wide big plaza, and I'm third in line at the> booth. The car in front of me seems to be taking forever. Why?> Because he had to feed dollar bills into a bill slot and put coins into> a coin slot one at a time. Haven't these folks ever heard of a coin> basket? I figured they'd probably take exact change, so I brought> exact change, and wound up spending well over a minute feeding almost> $4 in quarters and dimes into the slot one by one. Next time, I'm just> going to take the 5 directly to the 405, unless I happen to purchase a> FasTrak to complement my ETC transponder collection (you might be a> roadgeek if you have more than 3 types of ETC transponders in your car,> all for occasional use...haha). Yes, that's a silly design. It's really more of a vending machine design, with a bill acceptor. As far as I know, though, it's only necessary late at night, because most of the time there are human toll collectors on the job. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paul mailtoderocco@ix.netcom.com
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Robert Cruickshank 1 May 2005 22:17:48 [ permanent link ]
	Paul DeRocco wrote:>>"Mike Tantillo" <mjtantillo@yahoo.com> wrote>> I drove on Toll 73 last summer. I was impressed with the road, I was>>very very very disapointed with the toll collection system though. I>>pull up to this nice wide big plaza, and I'm third in line at the>>booth. The car in front of me seems to be taking forever. Why?>>Because he had to feed dollar bills into a bill slot and put coins into>>a coin slot one at a time. Haven't these folks ever heard of a coin>>basket? I figured they'd probably take exact change, so I brought>>exact change, and wound up spending well over a minute feeding almost>>$4 in quarters and dimes into the slot one by one. Next time, I'm just>>going to take the 5 directly to the 405, unless I happen to purchase a>>FasTrak to complement my ETC transponder collection (you might be a>>roadgeek if you have more than 3 types of ETC transponders in your car,>>all for occasional use...haha).> Yes, that's a silly design. It's really more of a vending machine design, > with a bill acceptor. As far as I know, though, it's only necessary late at > night, because most of the time there are human toll collectors on the job. CA-261 has coin baskets - or at least it did in 2001 - although I always did see plenty of Californians unused to using a tollbooth miss the basket with their quarters while exiting at Irvine Blvd. At the toll plazas there are usually a couple human collectors, but not on the on and offramps. -- Robert I. Cruickshank roadgeek, historian, progressive
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Mike Tantillo 1 May 2005 23:46:26 [ permanent link ]
	Paul DeRocco wrote:> > "Mike Tantillo" <mjtantillo@yahoo.com> wrote> > I drove on Toll 73 last summer. I was impressed with the road, I very very very disapointed with the toll collection system though. pull up to this nice wide big plaza, and I'm third in line at the> > booth. The car in front of me seems to be taking forever. Why?> > Because he had to feed dollar bills into a bill slot and put coins into> > a coin slot one at a time. Haven't these folks ever heard of a coin> > basket? I figured they'd probably take exact change, so I brought> > exact change, and wound up spending well over a minute feeding almost> > $4 in quarters and dimes into the slot one by one. Next time, I'm just> > going to take the 5 directly to the 405, unless I happen to purchase a> > FasTrak to complement my ETC transponder collection (you might be a> > roadgeek if you have more than 3 types of ETC transponders in your car,> > all for occasional use...haha).> Yes, that's a silly design. It's really more of a vending machine design,> with a bill acceptor. As far as I know, though, it's only necessary late at> night, because most of the time there are human toll collectors on the job. OK, that makes more sense, and makes me feel a little better now! My experience was at 1:00AM on a Monday morning, probably the most likely time for toll collectors to be off the job and have the "vending machines" on. At least these "vending machines" gave change. I still think a coin basket would be nice though. --> Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco> Paul mailtoderocco@ix.netcom.com
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