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WNY - Taking its toll (Thruway toll hikes)
Douglas Kerr 29 April 2005 02:55:43
	FOCUS: THRUWAY TOLLS Taking its toll The hike in Thruway fees causes resentment - and resignation - among commuters, taxi drivers and business owners By MATT GLYNN News Business Reporter 4/28/2005 Flying Bison Brewing Co. will have to sell an additional case of beer a day just to cover the higher cost of its trips on the Niagara section of the New York State Thruway. The president of Yellow and Liberty Cab says the 25-cent increase in tolls to enter downtown might be passed on to customers. And a downtown property owner said he will go to court to try to get the Breckenridge and Ogden toll barriers, denounced by critics as a "commuter tax," removed. Those are some of the responses from the business community to the New York State Thruway Authority's plan to raise tolls at the downtown barriers in mid-May. The hikes are part of a larger plan that will see passenger car tolls on the Thruway system rise an average of 25 percent, while commercial tolls will go up about 35 percent. The toll increases come at a time when motorists are already feeling the pinch from higher gas prices. At the local toll booths, passenger cars without E-ZPass will pay 75 cents, instead of the current 50 cents. The same tolls apply at the Grand Island bridges. Tim Herzog, Flying Bison's president, estimates his business already spends about $15 per week on local highway tolls. He said his company will just have to eat the latest increase. "It's something else that small businesses have to absorb," Herzog said. William Yuhnke, president of Yellow and Liberty Cab, said he is exploring whether he needs Common Council approval to pass a 25-cent toll increase on to customers. Otherwise, he said, the higher toll will affect taxi drivers' finances. "Here's one more added expense that has to come out of their pocket," he said. Carl P. Paladino, a prominent downtown property owner, plans to fight the toll hike. He has retained a lawyer to begin a legal battle. "You can enter Rochester, Syracuse and Albany on free roads, but you have to pay to enter Buffalo. It's not only wrong, I believe it's illegal," Paladino said. He noted that the I-190, which passes through downtown Buffalo and serves as a key city artery, is the only tributary to the mainline Thruway where motorists are required to pay tolls. Paladino announced his planned suit at a Wednesday meeting of Buffalo Place, a not-for-profit advocacy group that has long called for removal of the tolls. "I'm going to join Carl in this lawsuit," said Mayor Anthony M. Masiello. "The tolls discourage people from entering Buffalo and put us at a disadvantage." The mayor said it is time to rachet up the anti-toll fight from words to actions. "We need to get more aggressive and "in your face,' " he said. Read the full article at... http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20050428/1014067.asp
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Pigsty1953@Yahoo.Com 29 April 2005 03:11:35 [ permanent link ]
	Carl P. Paladino, a prominent downtown property owner, plans to fight toll hike. He has retained a lawyer to begin a legal battle.> "You can enter Rochester, Syracuse and Albany on free roads, but you have to> pay to enter Buffalo. It's not only wrong, I believe it's illegal," Paladino> said.> He noted that the I-190, which passes through downtown Buffalo and serves as> a key city artery, is the only tributary to the mainline Thruway where> motorists are required to pay tolls.> Paladino announced his planned suit at a Wednesday meeting of Buffalo Place,> a not-for-profit advocacy group that has long called for removal of tolls.> "I'm going to join Carl in this lawsuit," said Mayor Anthony M. Masiello.> "The tolls discourage people from entering Buffalo and put us at a> disadvantage."> The mayor said it is time to rachet up the anti-toll fight from words actions. "We need to get more aggressive and "in your face,' " he said. These guys are amazing. I will bet they never complained about the Thruway Authority spending hundreds of millions of $ over the years to improve the Niagara section. Also what have they been doing as Buffalo has been losing lots and lots of people over the years and the schools have gone downhill. Furthermore they got lots of money from the feds and state for the "subway". They killed that extension of the Kensington into the Niagara section and what ever happened to Moynihan's proposal to get the Niagara Section off the Niagara Riverfront? Someone should remind these guys the money has to come from somewhere.
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Comrade Mister The Duke of Yamamoto 29 April 2005 07:23:27 [ permanent link ]
	pigsty1953@yahoo.com wrote: These guys are amazing. I will bet they never complained about the> Thruway> Authority spending hundreds of millions of $ over the years to improve> the Niagara section. Also what have they been doing as Buffalo has> been losing> lots and lots of people over the years and the schools have gone> downhill.> Furthermore they got lots of money from the feds and state for the> "subway".> They killed that extension of the Kensington into the Niagara section> and what ever happened to Moynihan's proposal to get the Niagara> Section off the> Niagara Riverfront?> Someone should remind these guys the money has to come from somewhere. Well not from dirty feelthy "taxes", that's for sure. Maybe pennies from heaven. Perhaps they should get that money tree planted this spring. -- Comrade Mister Yamamoto http://mryamamoto.50megs.com ""Go now, you rich men, weep and howl for the miseries that shall come upon you. Your riches are corrupted...."
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Pigsty1953@Yahoo.Com 29 April 2005 07:45:57 [ permanent link ]
	Comrade Mister The Duke of Yamamoto wrote:> pigsty1953@yahoo.com wrote:> These guys are amazing. I will bet they never complained about the> > Thruway> > Authority spending hundreds of millions of $ over the years to improve> > the Niagara section. Also what have they been doing as Buffalo has> > been losing> > lots and lots of people over the years and the schools have gone> > downhill.> > Furthermore they got lots of money from the feds and state for the> > "subway".> > They killed that extension of the Kensington into the Niagara section> > and what ever happened to Moynihan's proposal to get the Niagara> > Section off the> > Niagara Riverfront?> > Someone should remind these guys the money has to come from somewhere.> Well not from dirty feelthy "taxes", that's for sure. Maybe pennies from> heaven. Perhaps they should get that money tree planted this spring.> --> Comrade Mister Yamamoto> http://mryamamoto.50megs.com> ""Go now, you rich men,> weep and howl for the miseries> that shall come upon you.> Your riches are corrupted...." Leave it to you to make me have a good laugh, thanx!!!
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Gk 29 April 2005 08:28:36 [ permanent link ]
	pigsty1953@yahoo.com wrote: Carl P. Paladino, a prominent downtown property owner, plans to fight> toll hike. He has retained a lawyer to begin a legal battle.>>"You can enter Rochester, Syracuse and Albany on free roads, but you> have to> pay to enter Buffalo. It's not only wrong, I believe it's illegal,"> Paladino> said.>>He noted that the I-190, which passes through downtown Buffalo and> serves as> a key city artery, is the only tributary to the mainline Thruway> where> motorists are required to pay tolls.>>Paladino announced his planned suit at a Wednesday meeting of Buffalo> Place,> a not-for-profit advocacy group that has long called for removal of> tolls.>>"I'm going to join Carl in this lawsuit," said Mayor Anthony M.> Masiello.> "The tolls discourage people from entering Buffalo and put us at a>>disadvantage.">>The mayor said it is time to rachet up the anti-toll fight from words> actions. "We need to get more aggressive and "in your face,' " he> said.> These guys are amazing. I will bet they never complained about the> Thruway> Authority spending hundreds of millions of $ over the years to improve> the Niagara section. Also what have they been doing as Buffalo has> been losing> lots and lots of people over the years and the schools have gone> downhill.> Furthermore they got lots of money from the feds and state for the> "subway".> They killed that extension of the Kensington into the Niagara section> and what ever happened to Moynihan's proposal to get the Niagara> Section off the> Niagara Riverfront?> Someone should remind these guys the money has to come from somewhere.> They do have a very valid point as the present toll setup puts their town and commerce at a disadvantage vs. the other towns mentioned. The old trusty gas pump seems to be the most equalized tax collector. If not maybe they can get the tolls rearranged so the "through" traffic touristas pay most of it. In NJ there are many urbanized areas that only collect 3% sales tax vs. 6% everywhere else as an aid from the State to pump up their commerce. Only trouble is in some parts the local towns have added 3% on to stick in their pockets making it 6% again without publicizing it much. GK
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C470guy 29 April 2005 12:37:04 [ permanent link ]
	The time has come to get rid of all the tolls on the NY Thruway. Central and western NY are some of the most economically depressed areas in the nation. The last thing this area needs is another reason for people to not come here. Driving from Chicago to Albany, I would save a lot of money going through Canada rather than Ohio and western NY; which I did last year. There is no reason for the backups at exit 24; get rid of the tolls!! Do NYers not pay enough taxes? Tear down the rooftops at 24 and rehire those fine folks at Sbarro's in Crossgates. Abolish the Thruway and let the traffic flow FREE. We are THRU with the Thruway!! Douglas Kerr wrote:> FOCUS: THRUWAY TOLLS> Taking its toll> The hike in Thruway fees causes resentment - and resignation - among> commuters, taxi drivers and business owners> By MATT GLYNN> News Business Reporter> 4/28/2005> Flying Bison Brewing Co. will have to sell an additional case of beer a day> just to cover the higher cost of its trips on the Niagara section of the New> York State Thruway. The president of Yellow and Liberty Cab says the 25-cent> increase in tolls to enter downtown might be passed on to customers.> And a downtown property owner said he will go to court to try to get Breckenridge and Ogden toll barriers, denounced by critics as a "commuter> tax," removed. Those are some of the responses from the business community> to the New York State Thruway Authority's plan to raise tolls at the> downtown barriers in mid-May. The hikes are part of a larger plan that will> see passenger car tolls on the Thruway system rise an average of 25 percent,> while commercial tolls will go up about 35 percent.> The toll increases come at a time when motorists are already feeling pinch from higher gas prices.> At the local toll booths, passenger cars without E-ZPass will pay 75 cents,> instead of the current 50 cents. The same tolls apply at the Grand Island> bridges.> Tim Herzog, Flying Bison's president, estimates his business already spends> about $15 per week on local highway tolls. He said his company will just> have to eat the latest increase.> "It's something else that small businesses have to absorb," Herzog said.> William Yuhnke, president of Yellow and Liberty Cab, said he is exploring> whether he needs Common Council approval to pass a 25-cent toll increase on> to customers.> Otherwise, he said, the higher toll will affect taxi drivers' finances.> "Here's one more added expense that has to come out of their pocket," said.> Carl P. Paladino, a prominent downtown property owner, plans to fight toll hike. He has retained a lawyer to begin a legal battle.> "You can enter Rochester, Syracuse and Albany on free roads, but you have to> pay to enter Buffalo. It's not only wrong, I believe it's illegal," Paladino> said.> He noted that the I-190, which passes through downtown Buffalo and serves as> a key city artery, is the only tributary to the mainline Thruway where> motorists are required to pay tolls.> Paladino announced his planned suit at a Wednesday meeting of Buffalo Place,> a not-for-profit advocacy group that has long called for removal of tolls.> "I'm going to join Carl in this lawsuit," said Mayor Anthony M. Masiello.> "The tolls discourage people from entering Buffalo and put us at a> disadvantage."> The mayor said it is time to rachet up the anti-toll fight from words actions. "We need to get more aggressive and "in your face,' " he said.> Read the full article at...> http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20050428/1014067.asp
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Guest 29 April 2005 13:41:20 [ permanent link ]
	c470guy wrote:> The time has come to get rid of all the tolls on the NY Thruway.> Central and western NY are some of the most economically depressed> areas in the nation. The last thing this area needs is another reason> for people to not come here. Driving from Chicago to Albany, I would> save a lot of money going through Canada rather than Ohio and western> NY; which I did last year. There is no reason for the backups at exit> 24; get rid of the tolls!! Do NYers not pay enough taxes? Tear down rooftops at 24 and rehire those fine folks at Sbarro's in Crossgates.> Abolish the Thruway and let the traffic flow FREE. We are THRU with Thruway!! So how do you propose that NYSDOT pay for maintenance and upgrades on the Thruway if tolls are taken off? Froggie \| Underway onboard USS McInerney (FFG-8) \| http://www.ajfroggie.com/roads/
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Pigsty1953@Yahoo.Com 1 May 2005 07:20:50 [ permanent link ]
	a not-for-profit advocacy group that has long called for removal of> > tolls. "The tolls discourage people from entering Buffalo and put us at a> >>disadvantage."> >>The mayor said it is time to rachet up the anti-toll fight from words> > actions. "We need to get more aggressive and "in your face,' " he> > said. Absolute pure Garbage! See below. These guys are amazing. I will bet they never complained about the> > Thruway> > Authority spending hundreds of millions of $ over the years to improve> > the Niagara section. Also what have they been doing as Buffalo has> > been losing> > lots and lots of people over the years and the schools have gone> > downhill.> > Furthermore they got lots of money from the feds and state for the> > "subway".> > They killed that extension of the Kensington into the Niagara section> > and what ever happened to Moynihan's proposal to get the Niagara> > Section off the> > Niagara Riverfront?> > Someone should remind these guys the money has to come from somewhere.> > They do have a very valid point as the present toll setup puts their> town and commerce at a disadvantage vs. the other towns mentioned. No, sir you are wrong. Again see my post above. Where does any other upstate NY city have a subway? The old trusty gas pump seems to be the most equalized tax collector. not maybe they can get the tolls rearranged so the "through" traffic> touristas pay most of it. That is rediculous also, because the gas tax believe it or not is way too low. Like I mentioned in another posting it is like the Space Shuttle Tragedy, you want a trillion dollar system but only want to spend a couple of hundred million. You get what you pay for.
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