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Re: Small town cop has nothing better to do but harass. What else
H . B . Elkins 24 April 2005 07:20:25
	On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 07:33:24 -0400, Nate Nagel wrote: We live in a society of laws. As long as they are on the books, they are>> right, by definition.>> What a completely unAmerican sentiment. Depends on your definition of "right." A law permitting slavery would not be morally right. However, a law prohibiting speeding has no morality attached. -- To reply by e-mail, remove the "restrictor plate"
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H . B . Elkins 24 April 2005 07:25:37 [ permanent link ]
	On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:12:52 GMT, Arif Khokar wrote: Do you fight every speeding ticket you happen to receive in court, or do >you just pay the fine? If you're paying the fine, then you're certainly >not doing your part in an effort to "overload" the court system.> If everyone who received a speeding ticket took their case to court, the >courts would become overloaded. As it stands now, people are perfectly >willing to pay the fine, but they want to avoid points at all costs. Why fight a ticket if you're guilty? If the cop cites you for 60 and your speedometer said you were going 55, then by all means fight it. But if he gets you for doing 75 in a 55 zone and you know you were speeding, take your medicine. -- To reply by e-mail, remove the "restrictor plate"
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Nate Nagel 24 April 2005 13:42:26 [ permanent link ]
	H.B. Elkins wrote: On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 07:33:24 -0400, Nate Nagel wrote:> We live in a society of laws. As long as they are on the books, they are>>>right, by definition.>>> What a completely unAmerican sentiment.> Depends on your definition of "right."> A law permitting slavery would not be morally right.> However, a law prohibiting speeding has no morality attached.> It's a stupid law prohibiting a victimless act, only on the books because of busybodies. nate -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel
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John Lansford 24 April 2005 15:59:07 [ permanent link ]
	Nate Nagel <njnagel@flycast.net> wrote: H.B. Elkins wrote:> On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 07:33:24 -0400, Nate Nagel wrote:>> We live in a society of laws. As long as they are on the books, they are>>>>right, by definition.>>>> What a completely unAmerican sentiment.>> Depends on your definition of "right.">> A law permitting slavery would not be morally right.>> However, a law prohibiting speeding has no morality attached.>> It's a stupid law prohibiting a victimless act, only on the books >because of busybodies.> Victimless only until someone kills another motorist by speeding. John Lansford, PE -- The unofficial I-26 Construction Webpage: http://users.vnet.net/lansford/a10/
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Nate Nagel 24 April 2005 16:11:13 [ permanent link ]
	John Lansford wrote: Nate Nagel <njnagel@flycast.net> wrote:> H.B. Elkins wrote:>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 07:33:24 -0400, Nate Nagel wrote:>>> We live in a society of laws. As long as they are on the books, they are>>>>>right, by definition.>>>>> What a completely unAmerican sentiment.>>> Depends on your definition of "right.">>> A law permitting slavery would not be morally right.>>> However, a law prohibiting speeding has no morality attached.>>> It's a stupid law prohibiting a victimless act, only on the books >>because of busybodies.>> Victimless only until someone kills another motorist by speeding. Nobody has ever been killed by speeding. Driving too fast for conditions, perhaps, but that is a whole separate issue. "too fast for conditions" may mean faster than the speed limit, or slower, or much faster, depending. The speed limit is not in any way related to safety, it's just a tax guide. nate -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel
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Jay Maynard 24 April 2005 16:20:57 [ permanent link ]
	On 2005-04-24, H.B Elkins <hbelkins@mis.net.restrictorplate> wrote:> On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:12:52 GMT, Arif Khokar wrote:>>Do you fight every speeding ticket you happen to receive in court, or do >>you just pay the fine? If you're paying the fine, then you're certainly >>not doing your part in an effort to "overload" the court system. I didn't say I was practicing civil disobedience. I was responding to another's claim that they were doing so. Why fight a ticket if you're guilty?> If the cop cites you for 60 and your speedometer said you were going 55, then by> all means fight it. But if he gets you for doing 75 in a 55 zone and you know> you were speeding, take your medicine. Exactly. Of course, this is anathema to the DIG crowd.
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John Lansford 24 April 2005 18:58:56 [ permanent link ]
	Nate Nagel <njnagel@flycast.net> wrote: John Lansford wrote:> Victimless only until someone kills another motorist by speeding.> Nobody has ever been killed by speeding. Famous last words. Driving too fast for conditions, perhaps, but that is a whole separate issue. No, it's wordsmithing from a DIG motorist. "too fast for >conditions" may mean faster than the speed limit, or slower, or much >faster, depending. The speed limit is not in any way related to safety, >it's just a tax guide. Here's a hint; people die every day on perfectly dry roads in broad daylight because they drove too fast for their ability to control their vehicle. John Lansford, PE -- The unofficial I-26 Construction Webpage: http://users.vnet.net/lansford/a10/
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N8n 25 April 2005 02:28:13 [ permanent link ]
	John Lansford wrote:> Nate Nagel <njnagel@flycast.net> wrote:> John Lansford wrote:> > Victimless only until someone kills another motorist by speeding.> > Nobody has ever been killed by speeding.> Famous last words.> Driving too fast for conditions, perhaps, but that is a whole separate issue.> No, it's wordsmithing from a DIG motorist.> "too fast for> >conditions" may mean faster than the speed limit, or slower, or much> >faster, depending. The speed limit is not in any way related to safety,> >it's just a tax guide.> Here's a hint; people die every day on perfectly dry roads in broad> daylight because they drove too fast for their ability to control> their vehicle.> Which has nothing to do with the speed limit. For a while there, you were acting like you were capable of rational thought an logical discussion, my prior impression of you as a fucking idiot has been confirmed however. nate
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John Lansford 25 April 2005 05:43:46 [ permanent link ]
	"N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote: John Lansford wrote:>> Nate Nagel <njnagel@flycast.net> wrote:>> John Lansford wrote:>> > Victimless only until someone kills another motorist by speeding.>> > Nobody has ever been killed by speeding.>> Famous last words.>> Driving too fast for conditions, perhaps, but that is a whole>separate issue.>> No, it's wordsmithing from a DIG motorist.>> "too fast for>> >conditions" may mean faster than the speed limit, or slower, or>much>> >faster, depending. The speed limit is not in any way related to>safety,>> >it's just a tax guide.>> Here's a hint; people die every day on perfectly dry roads in broad>> daylight because they drove too fast for their ability to control>> their vehicle.>> Which has nothing to do with the speed limit. For a while there, you>were acting like you were capable of rational thought an logical>discussion, my prior impression of you as a fucking idiot has been>confirmed however. Sounds like I hit a nerve of yet another DIG motorist, revealing that his attempts to conduct a civilized discussion is simply a false face he can't hide behind for very long. You're a speeder, and if you don't like the label, change your behavior. John Lansford, PE -- The unofficial I-26 Construction Webpage: http://users.vnet.net/lansford/a10/
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Elaich 25 April 2005 09:03:04 [ permanent link ]
	Nate Nagel <njnagel@flycast.net> wrote in news:SIqdnYY7bfWa9_bfRVn- iQ@comcast.com: It's a stupid law prohibiting a victimless act, only on the books > because of busybodies. Another DIG joins Khokar in the killfile. -- "No sports writers were harmed during the making of this post. And what I want to know is - why not?"
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Guest 25 April 2005 17:55:06 [ permanent link ]
	elaich wrote: Another DIG joins Khokar in the killfile. Isn't it ironic that you claim that I'm in your killfile? I know for a fact you responded to one of my posts in this very thread several days ago. Face it, we are better drivers than you because we have the capability of choosing safe speeds without having to have speed limits "for every occasion," as John Lansford has stated in the past.
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John Lansford 26 April 2005 01:56:10 [ permanent link ]
	guyincognito@techemail.com wrote: elaich wrote:> Another DIG joins Khokar in the killfile.> Isn't it ironic that you claim that I'm in your killfile? I know for a>fact you responded to one of my posts in this very thread several days>ago.> Face it, we are better drivers than you because we have the capability>of choosing safe speeds without having to have speed limits "for every>occasion," as John Lansford has stated in the past. Actually, I've said that trying to post speed limits for every situation is unrealistic, which is why there is one that covers most conditions. John Lansford, PE -- The unofficial I-26 Construction Webpage: http://users.vnet.net/lansford/a10/
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