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Re: Shortest freeways with an unsigned route number
Tim 11 April 2005 09:56:19
	"Steve" <smalpert@hackmit.edu> wrote in message news:4258b9c3$0$561$b45e6eb0@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu... I-93 Exit 2 in NH. I think you mean Exit 1, beautiful Rockingham Park Boulevard, which is basically a hyperthyroid off ramp to the race track with a grandiose name. Exit 2 is a fairly standard exit, loops southbound, straight ramps northbound. Aside: for the longest time the BGS for Exit 1 didn't even have "Salem" on them, nor did it have northbound on or off ramps since both the state and the town intended for Exit 2 to be the main exit for local traffic and Exit 1 to be exclusively for the race track. Needless to say, that didn't quite happen and very quickly the center of town became the intersection of RPB and NH 28. -- Tim, who spent his youth within walking distance of Rockingham... Exit 4, NH 101
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Gary E. Ansok 11 April 2005 21:35:03 [ permanent link ]
	I think the short section of CA-710 in Pasadena would qualify, though it's not as short as the Pennsylvania one that started this thread. The ramps to it from the I-210/CA-134 interchange are just labelled "Del Mar Blvd/California Blvd" (those being the two exits). The ramps from those exits are "TO (210)/(134)" The route number is referenced in postmile markers and (I think) call boxes, but if you're looking for an actual route marker, you're more likely to see a leftover CA-7 peeking out from under some greenout on a BGS -- unless those signs have all been replaced with the new reflective ones. The project to connect this to I-710, of course, has been the subject of much debate and protest (which we've discussed here before). Gary -- "I should killfile you where you stand, worthless human." -Kaz
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Michael Moroney 11 April 2005 23:07:38 [ permanent link ]
	"Tim" <spam@spam.spam> writes: "Steve" <smalpert@hackmit.edu> wrote in message>news:4258b9c3$0$561$b45e6eb0@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu... I-93 Exit 2 in NH. I think you mean Exit 1, beautiful Rockingham Park Boulevard, which is>basically a hyperthyroid off ramp to the race track with a grandiose name.>Exit 2 is a fairly standard exit, loops southbound, straight ramps>northbound. Either that or he meant Exit 2 of US 3/Everett Turnpike, which is, according to the mileage signs, 1.2 miles long, but that includes from the stack to/from US 3 to the south. Again, from the signs, the whole thing is considered ramps (even though it has an exit of its own to DW Highway). Grandiose plans would have it grow into the Nashua- Hudson Circumferential Highway. There are short "connectors" in Mass. that would be in the running. One is I-190 Exit 4 to MA 12 in Worcester/West Boylston MA (signed as "I-190" with no directional when heading toward I-190), another the quadruple trumpet interchange between I-91/US 5/I-90 Mass Pike, which is a double trumpet from I-91 to US 5 with its own double trumpet between it and the Mass Pike. "Ward Hill" Connector between I-495 and a traffic light (continues past it to MA 125) in Haverhill. Also the "Fuller Road Alternate" part of the Northway in Albany NY from US 20 to the I-90/ I-87 interchange (reference route 910F). Question is where is the line between "ramps" and a short freeway crossed? -- -Mike
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Steve 12 April 2005 02:45:31 [ permanent link ]
	Michael Moroney wrote: "Tim" <spam@spam.spam> writes:> "Steve" <smalpert@hackmit.edu> wrote in message>>news:4258b9c3$0$561$b45e6eb0@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu...> I-93 Exit 2 in NH.> I think you mean Exit 1, beautiful Rockingham Park Boulevard, which is>>basically a hyperthyroid off ramp to the race track with a grandiose name.>>Exit 2 is a fairly standard exit, loops southbound, straight ramps>>northbound.> Either that or he meant Exit 2 of US 3/Everett Turnpike, Yeah, go with that. which is, > according to the mileage signs, 1.2 miles long, but that includes> from the stack to/from US 3 to the south. Again, from the signs,> the whole thing is considered ramps (even though it has an exit of its> own to DW Highway). Grandiose plans would have it grow into the Nashua-> Hudson Circumferential Highway.> There are short "connectors" in Mass. that would be in the running. One> is I-190 Exit 4 to MA 12 in Worcester/West Boylston MA (signed as "I-190"> with no directional when heading toward I-190), another the quadruple> trumpet interchange between I-91/US 5/I-90 Mass Pike, which is a double> trumpet from I-91 to US 5 with its own double trumpet between it and> the Mass Pike. "Ward Hill" Connector between I-495 and a traffic light> (continues past it to MA 125) in Haverhill. Also the "Fuller Road > Alternate" part of the Northway in Albany NY from US 20 to the I-90/> I-87 interchange (reference route 910F). Question is where is the line> between "ramps" and a short freeway crossed? -- Steve Alpert MIT - Civil Engineering '05, MST '07 (Transportation)
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Mike Tantillo 12 April 2005 02:59:01 [ permanent link ]
	Hmm, using that definition, wouldn't any arterial with a long gap between driveways or other intersections be considered a "freeway" from "just after" one driveway to "just before" the next? wctollwayguru wrote:> Here's one candidate that I know of: PA-2050 in Wilkes-Barre, PA. It's> approximately 1/4 mile long, has 2 lanes in each direction with a> Jersey barrier along the median, & has one sign bridge that spans> across all lanes. This route's main purpose is to provide a link> between I-81 & Highland Park Boulevard (PA-2063). Since the> intersection of PA-2050 & Highland Park Blvd. is only approximately feet from the entrance to Wachovia Arena's parking lot, this short> freeway helps provide convenient access to the arena for WBS Penguins> fans on days when the "Baby Pens" host a game during the AHL season.> ---------------------------------> Eric K. Lin> elin [at] i-m151eklvfwy [dot] com
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Marc Fannin 12 April 2005 03:15:11 [ permanent link ]
	Marc Fannin wrote: wctollwayguru wrote:> Here's one candidate that I know of: PA-2050 in Wilkes-Barre, PA.> > It's> > approximately 1/4 mile long, has 2 lanes in each direction with a> > Jersey barrier along the median, & has one sign bridge that spans> > across all lanes. [snip]> Most connector roadways within toll highway trumpet-to-trumpet> interchanges ;) Thinking further (and more seriously), I can think of two trumpet-to-trumpet interchanges in Ohio between non-toll highways (and, therefore, no toll booths at which to stop) which have numbered-but-unsigned connectors, which could technically be considered freeways since their only access to other roads are their terminal fully grade-separated interchanges (as opposed to a connector with a trumpet at one end and an at-grade intersection at the other). - The connector at the interchange between SR-2/53 and SR-163 on the east side of Port Clinton is a hidden SR-2C (in ODOT parlance, "C" means "connector", as here, or "spur") - length: 0.64 mi. See the interchange diagram on the respective straight-line diagram .pdf(s) in Ottawa County: http://www.dot.state.oh.us/techservsite/availpro/Road_%20Infor/SLD/ (Sign on SR-163 EB: http://www.roadfan.com/allright.jpg ) - The connector between I-71 and I-76/US-224 is actually the westernmost portion of the eastern I-76, according to ODOT (FHWA probably considers I-76 to end at the I-71 overpasses). See SLDs in Medina County (link in paragraph above). The connector (length: 0.61 mi.) has no route signage of its own, however, and BGS on the mainlines only refer to the other route(s), as: http://www.interstate-guide.com/images051/i-076e_wt_06.jpg http://www.interstate-guide.com/images051/i-076e_wt_12.jpg http://www.interstate-guide.com/images051/i-076e_wt_01.jpg (If those don't work, see http://www.interstate-guide.com/i-076_east.html ) ________________________________________________________________________ Marc Fannin\|musxf579@kent.edu or @hotmail.com\| http://www.roadfan.com/
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Tim 12 April 2005 06:11:42 [ permanent link ]
	"Steve" <smalpert@hackmit.edu> wrote in message news:425afe3c$0$576$b45e6eb0@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu... .> >>>I-93 Exit 2 in NH.> > I think you mean Exit 1, beautiful Rockingham Park Boulevard, which is> >>basically a hyperthyroid off ramp to the race track with a grandiose name.> >>Exit 2 is a fairly standard exit, loops southbound, straight ramps> >>northbound.> > Either that or he meant Exit 2 of US 3/Everett Turnpike,> Yeah, go with that. Oops. I didn't even think of that! -- Tim Exit 4, NH 101
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Kev 14 April 2005 12:08:08 [ permanent link ]
	I believe this segment was built as a part of a proposed freeway ultimately from Milwaukee to Chicago along the Lake Michigan shores. Was this built in the 1970s by any chance? Kevin
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Emi M Briet 15 April 2005 00:54:24 [ permanent link ]
	In article <1113466088.076949.27930@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, "Kev" <krobokoff@hotmail.com> wrote: I believe this segment was built as a part of a proposed freeway> ultimately from Milwaukee to Chicago along the Lake Michigan shores.> Was this built in the 1970s by any chance? Hmm...Hennepin CSAH-122 comes to mind... There are no reassurance shields anywhere on the roadway. The freeway segment is about 3/4-mile long. There's another small freeway segment that connects I-94 to 3rd and 4th streets in Minneapolis. Before it was rerouted onto I-94, I believe it used to carry US-52...
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