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CarGuru > Driving > PA Rt 309 workzone speeding enforcement 12 April 2005 22:22:03
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PA Rt 309 workzone speeding enforcement

Guest 6 April 2005 18:53:04
 See:
http://www.kyw1060.­com/news_story_detai­l.cfm?newsitemid=451­54

KYW radio announced that state police are cracking down
on those exceeding the 45 mph speed in the construction
on PA Rt 309 near Philadelphia.

This highway, an old unimproved curvy 1950s expressway with
virtually no merging or exit lanes, carries much traffic
and has a very high crash and death incidents. It
requires considerable maintenance work.

Given the curves, tiny shoulder, and no merging lanes,
the speed limit on this road ought to be a strict
45 mph at all times. When the road opened the speed
was only 50 mph, and it carries far more traffic than
then. Motorists now must dart out to get on. Ramps
enter from both the right and left sides adding to
confusion.

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Art Clemons 6 April 2005 20:55:36 [ permanent link ]
 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.co­m wrote:
Given the curves, tiny shoulder, and no merging lanes,> the speed limit on this road ought to be a strict> 45 mph at all times. When the road opened the speed> was only 50 mph, and it carries far more traffic than> then. Motorists now must dart out to get on. Ramps> enter from both the right and left sides adding to> confusion.


Setting a normal speed of 45 mph would just about guarantee most drivers
going faster, heaven knows that when the speed limit was 55 mph, many
if not most went faster than that.

The most dangerous part is folks merging without due regard for safety
because they're impatient and I don't think lowering the speed limit
actually will work. Unless the state is willing to station troopers to
just patrol 309, there is little chance of the speed limit being
lowered actually working, it sure does not in the construction zone.
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Guest 6 April 2005 22:12:23 [ permanent link ]
 
Art Clemons wrote:
Setting a normal speed of 45 mph would just about guarantee most
drivers> going faster, heaven knows that when the speed limit was 55 mph, many> if not most went faster than that.

The speed limit will have to be aggressively enforced. When
that happens, word gets around pretty quickly and drivers will
slow down.


The most dangerous part is folks merging without due regard for
safety> because they're impatient and I don't think lowering the speed limit> actually will work. ...


It's not that they're impatient, it's that (1) there's so much
traffic there's no hole to merge into and (2) no acceleration
lane to allow an orderly speed up and merge. You have someone
going from a dead stop into high speed traffic. Exiting is
likewise, some exits are a hard right turn after a blind curve,
so people suddenly find themselves behind a slow driver who's
turning.

It's either this or volume will have to be limited.

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Allen Seth Dunn 7 April 2005 01:34:07 [ permanent link ]
 
<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.­com> wrote in message
news:1112799183.974­078.284000@z14g2000c­wz.googlegroups.com.­..> See:> http://www.kyw1060.­com/news_story_detai­l.cfm?newsitemid=451­54>
KYW radio announced that state police are cracking down> on those exceeding the 45 mph speed in the construction> on PA Rt 309 near Philadelphia.>
This highway, an old unimproved curvy 1950s expressway with> virtually no merging or exit lanes, carries much traffic> and has a very high crash and death incidents. It> requires considerable maintenance work.>
Given the curves, tiny shoulder, and no merging lanes,> the speed limit on this road ought to be a strict> 45 mph at all times. When the road opened the speed> was only 50 mph, and it carries far more traffic than> then. Motorists now must dart out to get on. Ramps> enter from both the right and left sides adding to> confusion.

Might this be a case where speed cameras (aka photo radar) might be a good
thing? Just wondering what everyone would think about that.


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Ill 7 April 2005 01:53:57 [ permanent link ]
 Allen Seth Dunn wrote:> <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.­com> wrote in message > news:1112799183.974­078.284000@z14g2000c­wz.googlegroups.com.­..>
See:>>http://www.­kyw1060.com/news_sto­ry_detail.cfm?newsit­emid=45154>>
KYW radio announced that state police are cracking down>>on those exceeding the 45 mph speed in the construction>>on PA Rt 309 near Philadelphia.>>
This highway, an old unimproved curvy 1950s expressway with>>virtually no merging or exit lanes, carries much traffic>>and has a very high crash and death incidents. It>>requires considerable maintenance work.>>
Given the curves, tiny shoulder, and no merging lanes,>>the speed limit on this road ought to be a strict>>45 mph at all times. When the road opened the speed>>was only 50 mph, and it carries far more traffic than>>then. Motorists now must dart out to get on. Ramps>>enter from both the right and left sides adding to>>confusion.>
Might this be a case where speed cameras (aka photo radar) might be a good > thing? Just wondering what everyone would think about that.>
Illegal...PA State Law...(nobody 'cept the troopers are allowed to use
radar or anything else 'cept Vascar) (vascar needs 2 cops to operate or
just one behind ya)

Suburbia's the problem... more people live out there but use the same
road that's been there.

Always felt developers should have to pay for the road upgrades. They
are the ones who cause it. (see...South Jersey...any part of South Jersey)

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Art Clemons 7 April 2005 02:35:16 [ permanent link ]
 Allen Seth Dunn wrote:
Might this be a case where speed cameras (aka photo radar) might be a> good thing? Just wondering what everyone would think about that.>


Cameras work better in intersections triggered by changes in the status
of red and yellow lights for ticketing. Even then, there are usually
some issues. It would be extremely problematic to have unattended
cameras used for moving violations. In PA there also would be legal
issues unless you want state troopers operating the cameras for such a
task.
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Allen Seth Dunn 7 April 2005 03:21:47 [ permanent link ]
 
"Art Clemons" <artclemons@aolSPAM­.com> wrote in message
news:I_qdnd2uj8e4-c­nfRVn-pA@comcast.com­...> Allen Seth Dunn wrote:>
Might this be a case where speed cameras (aka photo radar) might be a>> good thing? Just wondering what everyone would think about that.>>
Cameras work better in intersections triggered by changes in the status> of red and yellow lights for ticketing. Even then, there are usually> some issues. It would be extremely problematic to have unattended> cameras used for moving violations. In PA there also would be legal> issues unless you want state troopers operating the cameras for such a> task.

Ah, maybe there are legal hurdles to overcome, but there are always ways of
changing the laws after all. I'd betcha that if there was enough concern
about it with area legislative backing, wording could be done to slip it in
the bigger part of something else (esp. if wording it to restrict it to
certain roads). At the national level, VA delegates to the H of R and their
two Senators are famous for doing this. And closer to home at the national
level (to the article in mention), you had now-retired delegate Shuster get
funding for I-99 in the same way I'm sure.


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Arif Khokar 7 April 2005 10:46:03 [ permanent link ]
 Allen Seth Dunn wrote:
Might this be a case where speed cameras (aka photo radar) might be a good > thing? Just wondering what everyone would think about that.

For some reason, there are still people who feel that speed enforcement,
to the exclusion of every other offense is a panacea.

The fact is that tailgating, unsafe lane changes, improper merging are
far more dangerous than exceeding the posted limit.

For instance, cars in "platoon" formation moving at the speed limit is a
far more dangerous phenomenon as compared to an individual vehicle with
plenty of space around him going 10 to 15 mph faster. The "platoon"
will not be able to effectively avoid a hazard and those in the middle
and rear will lack sufficient visibility to even spot hazards in time.
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Andrew Tsen 7 April 2005 19:38:16 [ permanent link ]
 ill <ill@gmail.com> wrote:> Illegal...PA State Law...(nobody 'cept the troopers are allowed to use > radar or anything else 'cept Vascar) (vascar needs 2 cops to operate or > just one behind ya)

Nobody doesn't include those stupid signs that PennDOT put up in the
construction zones that show your speed. :)­

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Ill 7 April 2005 23:06:35 [ permanent link ]
 Andrew Tsen wrote:> ill <ill@gmail.com> wrote:>
Illegal...PA State Law...(nobody 'cept the troopers are allowed to use >>radar or anything else 'cept Vascar) (vascar needs 2 cops to operate or >>just one behind ya)>
Nobody doesn't include those stupid signs that PennDOT put up in the > construction zones that show your speed. :)­>

I try to see how fast I can go past them. They mean nothing. I think it
promotes speeding to be honest.

(At least for the video game generation...goin for the high score!)
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Matthew Russotto 7 April 2005 23:18:35 [ permanent link ]
 In article <slrnd5akva.7u9.f00­-bar@f-bar.com>,
Andrew Tsen <f00-bar@f-bar.com>­ wrote:>ill <ill@gmail.com> wrote:>> Illegal...PA State Law...(nobody 'cept the troopers are allowed to use >> radar or anything else 'cept Vascar) (vascar needs 2 cops to operate or >> just one behind ya)>
Nobody doesn't include those stupid signs that PennDOT put up in the >construction zones that show your speed. :)­

I wish they'd leave one of those up near me long enough so I could see what it
does when you get to triple digits :-)­.

PennDOT can run unattended radar, but they can't ticket you for it.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.
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Guest 12 April 2005 22:22:03 [ permanent link ]
 ill wrote:> Andrew Tsen wrote:> > Nobody doesn't include those stupid signs that PennDOT put up in
construction zones that show your speed. :)­>
I try to see how fast I can go past them. They mean nothing. I think
promotes speeding to be honest.

I try to see how slow I can go. Most shut down below 15 mph.

They typically include a standard speed limit sign above the "your
speed" display. This makes them illegal on road segments in
Massachusetts which don't have state approval for a posted speed limit,
which has different rules from the default speed limits for thickly
settled and rural areas.

-Apr

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