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CarGuru > Driving > Median barrier design question 28 March 2005 14:52:25

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Median barrier design question

Guest 28 March 2005 06:54:52
 New Jersey has been installing cable barriers on freeway medians of
late, and I have some questions regarding the design of such
installations...

It appears that, in segments with horizontal curvature, the barrier is
being placed closer to the roadway on the *outside* of the curve. I
would think it should be placed closer to the roadway on the *inside*
of the curve (e.g., if the roadway I am traveling on curves to the
right, the barrier would be near the left shoulder), in order to
stop/redirect errant vehicles immediately.

Also, where the median is depressed, the cable barrier is often in the
middle, which is also the lowest point, making it look like it could be
easily overun. This includes places where curvature and superelevation
of the roadways appear to have the cables **at or below the left edge
of pavement** of the roadway on the inside of the curve. In the cases
to which I am referring, the median (including inside shoulders) is 50
feet wide or less.

Since my design experience has been purely conceptual, I do not know if
this type of installation, while appearing to render the barriers less
effective, might actually be justified for non-obvious reasons. Could
any of you "hard" design engineers please comment?

Guy Olsen, PE (NJ)

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John Lansford 28 March 2005 14:52:25 permanent link ]
 GuyPOlsen@AOL.com wrote:
New Jersey has been installing cable barriers on freeway medians of>late, and I have some questions regarding the design of such>installations.­..>
It appears that, in segments with horizontal curvature, the barrier is>being placed closer to the roadway on the *outside* of the curve. I>would think it should be placed closer to the roadway on the *inside*>of the curve (e.g., if the roadway I am traveling on curves to the>right, the barrier would be near the left shoulder), in order to>stop/redirect errant vehicles immediately.

Depends on the slope of the median. NCDOT would put the barrier on the
high side of the superelevated median, at the edge of the median
shoulder.
Also, where the median is depressed, the cable barrier is often in the>middle, which is also the lowest point, making it look like it could be>easily overun. This includes places where curvature and superelevation>of the roadways appear to have the cables **at or below the left edge>of pavement** of the roadway on the inside of the curve. In the cases>to which I am referring, the median (including inside shoulders) is 50>feet wide or less.

Again, it depends on the slope. I've not seen cable placed in a median
that had slopes steeper than 6:1; in that case NCDOT uses steel beam
guardrail. On I-540 around Raleigh, however, there are places where I
feel the median barrier was improperly located. It appears the barrier
was placed uniformly throughout the interstate along the center of the
median, including where curves caused one of the median shoulders to
rise higher than the other one. In this case the barrier should have
transitioned to the upper shoulder.
Since my design experience has been purely conceptual, I do not know if>this type of installation, while appearing to render the barriers less>effective, might actually be justified for non-obvious reasons. Could>any of you "hard" design engineers please comment?>
On tangents NCDOT places median cable barrier about 3' from the center
of a depressed median to avoid the drainage structures. We used to
put it directly in the center of the median but the posts interfered
with drainage and they had to be punched through the concrete aprons
around the drainage boxes.

Our depressed median slopes are on at least a 6:1 gradient, with 8:1
or 10:1 preferred on wider medians. If the slopes are steeper than
8:1, however, we consider them too steep for cable barrier and place
the entire line on the edge of the median shoulder, typically 8'-10'
from the travel lane.

Our grade points are on the edge of the travel lanes, so the
superelevation rotates through those points, keeping the median slopes
uniform through a horizontal curve. On some freeways, however, the
super was rotated through the center of the median for some reason,
causing the median slopes to change as the curve develops full
superelevation. In those cases, the median cable barrier transitions
from the offset center of the median to the higher side of the
superelevated median shoulder.

Also, in locations where median cable barriers are installed where
there is less than a 60' median and only one line of barrier is used,
we use a double faced cable barrier. No new cables are added, but one
of the cables is placed on the other side of the posts, usually on the
side furthest from the travel lanes.

John Lansford, PE
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