* 11.2 Yellow and red on at the same time>

I think Britain is the only European country which actually uses> "starting amber" (red and yellow before green). (Yellow before red is> "leaving amber.")>

Hope this helps!>

I want to suggest a few minor F.A.Q. revisions (keyed to F.A.Q.

[edited - no comments on the other original comments]>

* 2. DOT>

The correct abbreviation for the Idaho Transportation Department is> "ITD."

* 3.3 Button copy>

This entry should be updated to reflect the fact that button copy is> now being phased out on existing signs and ceased to be used on new> signs in mid-2000 when Arizona D.O.T., the last remaining user, moved> toward retroreflective sheeting for sign legends.>

* 3.6.4 Interchange names>

The "Nest of Vipers" (I-80/I-15 interchange) in Utah should be added.

* 3.14 Difference between expressway and freeway>

Virginia should be listed as one of the states which uses the term> "limited access highway" as a synonym for 'freeway'.

* 6.3.2 Traffic lights on Interstates>

The real reason Alaska's Interstates have traffic signals is that

Hope this helps!

IMO what's there identifies that condition sufficiently, especially> with the cross reference to 6.3.8 . (Anybody else...?)

...as is listed correctly ­

Hey, I'm in that thread! I think I've even cited that myself. I

Is this in common usage? I Googled it a while back and got very> little.

There is no list of these there. One state is given, but only as an> example.

IMO what's there identifies that condition sufficiently, especially> with the cross reference to 6.3.8. (Anybody else...?)

* 3.14 Difference between expressway and freeway>

Virginia should be listed as one of the states which uses the term> "limited access highway" as a synonym for 'freeway'.

argatlam_roads@yaho­o.com.mx wrote:>

* 11.2 Yellow and red on at the same time>

I think Britain is the only European country which actually uses> "starting amber" (red and yellow before green). (Yellow before red

"leaving amber.")

On my current deployment here around Europe, I've seen "starting

it was the Netherlands or Denmark, but at least one of the two used a> "starting amber".

Such a highway could have at-grade intersections and be an

[Mr. Kozel:]>

Thanks for setting me straight regarding the actual legal definition.> I see (from a 'Google Groups' search) that you have indeed cited> examples of "limited access highways" in Virginia which have at-grade> intersections, such as Va. 28 north of U.S. 29. However, I have not> been able to investigate these in depth since V.D.O.T.'s search engine> for C.T.B. minutes is down. (I was hoping to obtain actual *.PDF> copies of the limited access highway resolutions for these expressways,> to see whether they differ from those adopted for freeways by not> including additional language restricting access to grade-separated> interchanges only.)

argatlam_ro...@yaho­o.com.mx wrote:> [Mr. Froehlig:]>

Could it have been Norway or Sweden? Apparently both have starting> amber--cf.:

[Mr. Fannin:]>

Not unless you revised the F.A.Q. just in the last five minutes--what> it actually says is "IDT" (I suspect typographical error).

It's a big F.A.Q.!!! (We all appreciate your efforts in keeping it

to date.)

It has surfaced in recent M.T.R. threads (notably the one dealing

[snip] However, I> thought it might be worthwhile to cite Virginia in the F.A.Q. on the> principle that things asked or said often in a newsgroup 'ipso facto'> become eligible for inclusion in the F.A.Q.

Norway's a possibility.....hav­e not been to Sweden yet. I'm pretty> sure I remember seeing it in either Den Helder, netherlands or

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Whole thing posted in two weeks (July 27), in the usual four parts.> Comments/suggestion­s always welcome.>

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