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CarGuru > Driving > SECOND PART: Express Toll Lanes Proposed for I-4 18 March 2005 03:25:50

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SECOND PART: Express Toll Lanes Proposed for I-4

Steve 18 March 2005 02:13:58
 Scott M. Kozel wrote:
"Toll idea advances despite opposition"> _Orlando Sentinel_ - March 16, 2005> Excerpts:>
'The state is moving forward with controversial plans to build toll> lanes down the center of Interstate 4 as a way to ease the> bumper-to-bumper traffic that plagues Central Florida's most-hated> road. Work on the toll roads, derided by critics as "Lexus lanes,"> could begin in four years and be done by 2013.'>
'The idea of toll lanes inside I-4 was blamed by many as one of the> downfalls of a transportation tax that Orange County voters turned down> in 2003. And it still has powerful opponents, including U.S. Rep. John> Mica, R-Winter Park, who vowed to kill it.'>
'State transportation officials have insisted for years that there is no> way to build I-4 wide enough to handle all the traffic. They say the> only way to assure that someone can get to or through Orlando without> bogging down in congestion is to create something new: a whole new> route, just expensive enough to use that people would only drive it if> they have to.'>
'With a pledge of $350 million in seed money this year from Florida's> Turnpike Enterprise, the Florida Department of Transportation thinks it> can start a $1.5 billion final overhaul of I-4, including the toll lanes> from Longwood to Universal Studios. However, they'll need federal money> to complete the project.'>
'State officials are calling the concept a highway within a highway. > The toll lanes would be called Xpress 400; the state-highway designation> for I-4 is State Road 400.'>
'"The way we look at this, we're not tolling the interstate. Tolling> the interstate would suggest you're converting existing lanes to toll> lanes, and you're tolling all the lanes," said Jim Ely, chief operating> officer of Florida's Turnpike Enterprise. "We're not doing that. We're> adding new capacity, which is user-financed, and not tax-financed."' >
'Under the state's plan, I-4 would be rebuilt one last time, from just> east of S.R. 434 to just west of Kirkman Road. Most of the interchanges> and bridges would be rebuilt. The fourth lane in each direction, now> intermittent, would be made continuous. Difficult curves, such as the> one near Fairbanks Avenue, would be engineered for faster traffic. Most> of the $1.5 billion cost covers the interchange improvements. The> toll-lanes portion alone would cost about $305 million, state officials> said.'>
'Drivers could get in or out of the toll lanes at eight spots along I-4> or several cross streets. Electronic-message signs would tell drivers> what travel times are in the free and tolled lanes, and what the tolls> are, so drivers could choose.'>
'The lanes would be open only to people with electronic transponders> that can tally tolls by radio signals even at high speeds. Fares would> be adjusted frequently to try to encourage or discourage more traffic to> get into the toll lanes.'>
For example, when traffic backs up on the toll lanes, the price will go
up to discourage more drivers from getting on them.

But Mica, who helps funnel transportation money to Florida, said he
would consider legislation to keep interstates from harboring toll
lanes. He said he also would consider restrictions so that money could
not go to I-4 or other interstates if toll lanes were being considered.

His comments came after Ely and Florida's Transportation Secretary José
Abreu flew to Washington last week to try to change his mind. They didn't.

"I'm doing everything I can to kill tolls on I-4," Mica said.

Instead, Mica suggested that I-4 be widened to six free lanes in each
direction. And he is pushing an alternative route, most likely a toll
road, that could be created connecting I-95 to S.R. 417 through eastern
Volusia and Seminole counties.

Mica complains that Central Florida residents already are too burdened
with having to pay tolls to get around, and he doesn't want to see the
area's only freeway add to the burden.

Many opponents of Orange County's "Mobility 20/20" tax plan rejected in
October 2003 said the same thing.

Critics derided the toll lanes as "Lexus lanes," borrowing that term
from critics of similar highway projects built in California in the past
10 years, to suggest that only rich drivers would use them.

However, studies show that Route 91 in California's Orange County and
I-5 in San Diego County have toll-lane options for drivers, suggesting a
broad diversity of drivers use the lanes.

Ely said the Turnpike Enterprise is looking at doing the same thing in
Tampa, Fort Myers and South Florida, though I-4 would be first.

George Gilhooley, secretary of the Florida Department of
Transportation's District 5, said the state's surveys show 30 percent of
I-4 drivers indicated they would be regularly willing to pay tolls to
save time to get into or through Orlando. And an additional 24 percent
said they would do so occasionally, as needed.

Support will only build as I-4 gets more congested, he said.

"Keep in mind, these lanes won't be open until 2013. There's going to be
a lot of culture change between now and then," Gilhooley said.

But anti-tolls community activist Sally Baptiste, a leading opponent of
Mobility 20/20 who still drives around town with "No Tolls on I-4" signs
plastered on her Mercury Villager, disputed the state's survey findings,
saying the idea still has plenty of popular, hard-core opposition.

"There is no support," Baptiste said.

Scott Powers can be reachedat spowers@orlandosent­inel.comor 407-420-5441.

--
Steve
Civil Engineering (Course 1) at MIT

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Techno79 18 March 2005 03:25:50 permanent link ]
 I do like Mica's ideas on transporation(thoug­h boring to watch talk).
I like the 417-95 connector, even though it would ruin SW volusia and
NE Seminole making it congested with sprawl.

But really, it's not going to help much. It'll do some good, but not
much in the end. Wasn't SR417 supposed to relieve I-4? It didn't.
What about this new western beltway? It won't either. Now we need a
center tolled "beltway" down the middle. It won't either. Too much
growth in daytona to Deland. Plus all the places that have grown out,
and now growing up. maitland, altamonte springs, downtown o-town.
Bulldozing the land growth maybe coming to a conclusion, but
redevelopment and building up is continuing at a fast pace.

I like the Express 400 plan, but cancel SR429(western loop) and keep a
envelope open for my LRT. At least the commuter rail is pushing
forward. These two in conjunction may make Orlando a real and barable
city again.

Jeff W

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