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WV - US 35 work continues
Sherman Cahal 12 March 2005 05:26:14
	http://www.dailymail.com/news/News/2005031141/ SLC: I have photos of the contract-completed segment of the US 35, Interstate 64, and Teays Valley Road interchange on my PC. The contract called for the construction of the ramps and drainage, as is done on all contracts. Paving contracts are seperate from the actual construction of the highway; the ramps to Teays Valley Road are open eastbound only appearantly. When I was through there last, they were not. -- Officials looking ahead to next phase of U.S. 35 work Friday March 11, 2005 Longtime supporters of an interchange linking U.S. 35 with Interstate 64 have called it the "missing link" to West Virginia's highway system. But motorists may be able to find the link -- a 31-mile stretch of a four-lane highway from Interstate 64 in Putnam County to Henderson, Mason County -- in as little as a few years, officials said. Road crews completed the initial work last October with the opening of an eastbound access ramp from Teays Valley Road to Interstate 64. Area officials hope that $44 million in funding from a federal highways bill currently under debate in Congress will go toward the expansion. The U.S. Senate will need to pass the federal Highway Trust Fund law, the source of the $44 million, before it heads to President Bush for his signature. That money has been earmarked for the next phase, which will tie the northern intersection of W.Va. 34 and North Poplar Fork Road, into the project. It may also help build a new bridge over the interstate at Crooked Creek. Though the money is to be distributed in allotments over five years, Putnam County Commissioner Jim Caruthers, chairman of the county's transportation committee, would like to see it come in a lump sum as soon as possible. "We'd like to work something out with them so we can go on with the job," Caruthers said. Offering a safer, more convenient alternative to the current road system in Putnam County has been discussed for more than 20 years. Caruthers said 27 people have been killed in traffic accidents on U.S. 35 in Putnam County since 1998, and that tractor-trailer and tanker trucks often make the area a deathtrap. Various studies used by the county show that more than 33 percent of the traffic on U.S. 35 consists of large trucks, compared to 7 percent for a typical highway. "I and the rest of Putnam County will be so happy," Caruthers said. "People will no longer worry so much about the trucks." The expansion project also will likely alleviate congestion in high-traffic pockets like the Winfield-Teays Valley exit off Interstate 64. Officials hope the U.S. 35 section between Interstate 64 and W.Va. 34 will accomplish that. The cost of that section is an estimated $82 million. The overall project will cost more than $450 million, said State Highway Engineer Marvin Murphy. Construction on the rest of the 10 phases has yet to take place. "We're expected to take bids to finish paving and bridge construction around Teays Valley in July," Murphy said. In addition to increasing safety and efficiency, Caruthers believes the interchange will boost the Putnam County economy. Once the upgrade from Putnam County to Silver Memorial Bridge in Henderson is completed, the highway will connect to Ohio and create a four-lane corridor from Columbus to Charleston. Even more, it will link Midwest cities like Chicago, Detroit and Indianapolis with Southeast cities such as Charlotte and Miami through a continuous four-lane corridor. The highway has received $61 million in funding since Rep. Shelly Moore Capito took office in 2001.
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SP Cook 12 March 2005 07:12:27 [ permanent link ]
	Sherman Cahal wrote:> SLC: I have photos of the contract-completed segment of the US 35,> Interstate 64, and Teays Valley Road interchange on my PC. The contract> called for the construction of the ramps and drainage, as is done on> all contracts. Paving contracts are seperate from the actual> construction of the highway; the ramps to Teays Valley Road are open> eastbound only appearantly. When I was through there last, they were> not. You can get on to go eastbound. None of the other 3 options are yet available, legally, but many people just ignore that and drive down the dirt and gravel ramps to be. The DOT placed a garbage pile across what would be the westbound onramp, to prevent the obviously dangerous attempts to merge onto a 70 MPH interstate from a dirt road. They don't seem to care, however if people exit from the interstate to the dirt ramps. Its a sad deal, all of the deaths on US 35, a road that should have been built years ago. SP Cook
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Sherman Cahal 12 March 2005 07:21:45 [ permanent link ]
	SP Cook wrote:> Sherman Cahal wrote:> > SLC: I have photos of the contract-completed segment of the US 35,> > Interstate 64, and Teays Valley Road interchange on my PC. The> contract> > called for the construction of the ramps and drainage, as is done all contracts. Paving contracts are seperate from the actual> > construction of the highway; the ramps to Teays Valley Road are open> > eastbound only appearantly. When I was through there last, they were> > not.> You can get on to go eastbound. None of the other 3 options are yet> available, legally, but many people just ignore that and drive down dirt and gravel ramps to be. The DOT placed a garbage pile across what> would be the westbound onramp, to prevent the obviously dangerous> attempts to merge onto a 70 MPH interstate from a dirt road. They> don't seem to care, however if people exit from the interstate to the> dirt ramps. You gotta be kidding me. I thought the barracades were still in place (jersey barriers) to prevent access to the interstate? What they are doing is incredibly dangerous. Its a sad deal, all of the deaths on US 35, a road that should have> been built years ago.> SP Cook I agree on that point -- and would have liked to see a toll road be built, with one interchange at midpoint and a service area. Unfortunately, not too many people were happy with that, so you will have a road that will include stop lights and intersections.
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SP Cook 12 March 2005 07:59:19 [ permanent link ]
	Sherman Cahal wrote:>> > Its a sad deal, all of the deaths on US 35, a road that should have> > been built years ago.> > I agree on that point -- and would have liked to see a toll road be> built, with one interchange at midpoint and a service area.> Unfortunately, not too many people were happy with that, so you will> have a road that will include stop lights and intersections. ANY road would be preferable to what exists now. It is better for trucks to use Exit 39 and then WV 34 North up to US 35 than to take Exit 44 and hit US 35 directly there. 34 is a super-dangerous road and super congested, and US 35 is the most dangerous road in the state. Infested with trucks and out-of-state tourists not used to two lane roads. Plus the road, and the parallel WV 62 on the other side of the river, is flooded over at least three times per year. Plus Toyota was flatly promised a completed 4-lane by 2007. A toll road would be fine. Referencing the map in the CDM article, if I were running things, I would put a freeway from I-64, with one exit where it crosses 34 and then begin the toll road, with only one exit, at the so-called "Toyota Bridge". Then ending the toll section at the current 4-lane end near Henderson. One toll booth, just after the exit no mater which way you were going, with a side toll for the exit. The DOT study says this is the ONLY road in the state that would actually be economically feasable as a toll road (personally I think that US 522, in a similar mess, would as well). SP Cook
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Sherman Cahal 12 March 2005 08:08:10 [ permanent link ]
	SP Cook wrote:> Sherman Cahal wrote:> >> > Its a sad deal, all of the deaths on US 35, a road that should> have> > > been built years ago.> > > I agree on that point -- and would have liked to see a toll road be> > built, with one interchange at midpoint and a service area.> > Unfortunately, not too many people were happy with that, so you will> > have a road that will include stop lights and intersections.> ANY road would be preferable to what exists now. It is better for> trucks to use Exit 39 and then WV 34 North up to US 35 than to take> Exit 44 and hit US 35 directly there. 34 is a super-dangerous road super congested, and US 35 is the most dangerous road in the state.> Infested with trucks and out-of-state tourists not used to two lane> roads. Plus the road, and the parallel WV 62 on the other side of river, is flooded over at least three times per year. Plus Toyota flatly promised a completed 4-lane by 2007. Oh, I agree that anything would be far better. I would assume US 35 would flood over quicker than WV 62, but I have not been on both of those highways in years. What you currently have is an extension of the Henderson stub for 2 miles to a new stub. Four lane 65 MPH highway going to a narrow two lane facility with a 55 MPH limit. A toll road would be fine. Referencing the map in the CDM article, I were running things, I would put a freeway from I-64, with one exit> where it crosses 34 and then begin the toll road, with only one exit,> at the so-called "Toyota Bridge". Then ending the toll section at current 4-lane end near Henderson. One toll booth, just after the exit> no mater which way you were going, with a side toll for the exit. I believe in the former toll road proposal, an exit would have served the 'Toyota Bridge'. That would provide good connections to the other side of the river. The DOT study says this is the ONLY road in the state that would> actually be economically feasable as a toll road (personally I think> that US 522, in a similar mess, would as well). If the state would realize that it can't keep pace of the roads, put some tolls on the corridor routes, such as Corridor D (its a long distance highway), US 522, I-73/74, and US 121. The latter two are so expensive ($1 billion for each project easy) that a toll road would be MUCH preferred, but I guess the only opposition comes from the people not able to afford it. Corridor D east of Parkersburg could work but I am not for sure of the status on the older alignments and if they are traversable. Trucks and cars would bypass the tolls possibly if they exist in lengthy segments. SP Cook
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H . B . Elkins 13 March 2005 08:26:11 [ permanent link ]
	On 11 Mar 2005 19:12:27 -0800, SP Cook wrote: You can get on to go eastbound. None of the other 3 options are yet>available, legally, but many people just ignore that and drive down the>dirt and gravel ramps to be. The DOT placed a garbage pile across what>would be the westbound onramp, to prevent the obviously dangerous>attempts to merge onto a 70 MPH interstate from a dirt road. They>don't seem to care, however if people exit from the interstate to the>dirt ramps. What's the purpose of allowing this? To let all those people who live in the subdivision just to the south of the Interstate to get on to drive to work in Charleston, and not make them have to drive down Teays Valley (CR 33, I think) to get on at Exit 44? And why not pave and open up the other three ramps to allow full access here? -- To reply by e-mail, remove the "restrictor plate"
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H . B . Elkins 13 March 2005 08:29:46 [ permanent link ]
	On 11 Mar 2005 19:59:19 -0800, SP Cook wrote: ANY road would be preferable to what exists now. It is better for>trucks to use Exit 39 and then WV 34 North up to US 35 than to take>Exit 44 and hit US 35 directly there. 34 is a super-dangerous road and>super congested, and US 35 is the most dangerous road in the state.>Infested with trucks and out-of-state tourists not used to two lane>roads. That must be becaue the people who drive the road are idiots. The quality of existing US 35 is about a zillion times better than a lot of two-lane surface roads in WV and KY. The DOT study says this is the ONLY road in the state that would>actually be economically feasable as a toll road (personally I think>that US 522, in a similar mess, would as well). Why not toll WV 9, which is supposed to be four-laned to the Virginia line? That would make the commuters who live in Charles Town and drive to the DC area pay for it. -- To reply by e-mail, remove the "restrictor plate"
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Sherman Cahal 13 March 2005 08:47:42 [ permanent link ]
	H. B. Elkins wrote:> On 11 Mar 2005 19:12:27 -0800, SP Cook wrote:> You can get on to go eastbound. None of the other 3 options are yet> >available, legally, but many people just ignore that and drive down dirt and gravel ramps to be. The DOT placed a garbage pile across what> >would be the westbound onramp, to prevent the obviously dangerous> >attempts to merge onto a 70 MPH interstate from a dirt road. They> >don't seem to care, however if people exit from the interstate to dirt ramps.> What's the purpose of allowing this? To let all those people who live in the> subdivision just to the south> of the Interstate to get on to drive to work in Charleston, and not make them> have to drive down Teays> Valley (CR 33, I think) to get on at Exit 44?> And why not pave and open up the other three ramps to allow full access here? The US 35 span and flyover ramps were not built in the former contract. There is an older span but it will be demolished.
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SP Cook 13 March 2005 16:15:59 [ permanent link ]
	H.B. Elkins wrote:> On 11 Mar 2005 19:12:27 -0800, SP Cook wrote:> You can get on to go eastbound. None of the other 3 options are yet> >available, legally, but many people just ignore that and drive down dirt and gravel ramps to be.> What's the purpose of allowing this? To let all those people who live in the> subdivision just to the south> of the Interstate to get on to drive to work in Charleston, and not make them> have to drive down Teays> Valley (CR 33, I think) to get on at Exit 44?> And why not pave and open up the other three ramps to allow full access here?> Teays Valley Road (CR 33) runs, more or less, parallel to I-64 from Exit 39 to 44. The new exit will be about 1/3 of the way from 39 to 44. Exit 39 is a super congested exit. Lots of so-called sprawl. The junction where all of the trucks off 35 get on 64 (much preferable to use 34 from Winfiled down to 39 than to remain on 35 down to 44). Major truckstop below grade with a line of 5-10 trucks all the time, looking like a ground version of the flight line at O'Hare. So, for a commuter to Charleston, which would include me, can at least take CR 33 and get on the interstate in the mornings. Still have to us 39 at night, but it helps the mess that is 39 in the AM, at least. Going all the way down 25 MPH CR 33 with major curves all the way to 44 is not really an option. As to "why not finish", the logic, and I disagree with it is this, is that the current deal is the completed on ramp EB, and the three dirt ramps. Connected by the old bridge over the intestate from the tiny side road that was there. So building the EB road from CR 33 is easy. But the off-ramp and and WB on ramp are on the other side of the highway. Meaning traffic will have to use the old bridge. The completion of the road will involve removing that bridge and building a new one. Meaning a completed set of ramps would just have to be closed for the construction. Now, if they really are going to finish the deal this summer, no problem. If they are going to wait for years and years, no reason to not at least finish the WB off-ramp. SP Cook
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Larry Harvilla 15 March 2005 04:43:44 [ permanent link ]
	H.B. Elkins wrote:> On 11 Mar 2005 19:59:19 -0800, SP Cook wrote:> ANY road would be preferable to what exists now. It is better for>>trucks to use Exit 39 and then WV 34 North up to US 35 than to take>>Exit 44 and hit US 35 directly there. 34 is a super-dangerous road and>>super congested, and US 35 is the most dangerous road in the state.>>Infested with trucks and out-of-state tourists not used to two lane>>roads.> That must be becaue the people who drive the road are idiots. The quality of> existing US 35 is about a> zillion times better than a lot of two-lane surface roads in WV and KY. H.B., while you make a valid point that US 35 is far better than a lot of other two-lane roads in WV, it is pretty substandard by the standards of other states' major two-lane arterial highways. The lanes are very narrow -- probably no better than 9' -- and for the most part, there is no shoulder, period, on either side. Given the high volume of truck traffic US 35 sees as the primary connection between central Ohio and points north and west, and the Carolinas via I-77, it can make for a tricky drive. -- Larry Harvilla E-mail: roads AT phatpage DOT org also visit: http://www.phatpage.org/ Highways section in progress.
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Sherman Cahal 15 March 2005 04:51:31 [ permanent link ]
	Larry Harvilla wrote:> H.B. Elkins wrote:> > On 11 Mar 2005 19:59:19 -0800, SP Cook wrote:> > ANY road would be preferable to what exists now. It is better for> >>trucks to use Exit 39 and then WV 34 North up to US 35 than to take> >>Exit 44 and hit US 35 directly there. 34 is a super-dangerous road super congested, and US 35 is the most dangerous road in the state.> >>Infested with trucks and out-of-state tourists not used to two lane> >>roads.> > That must be becaue the people who drive the road are idiots. The quality of> > existing US 35 is about a> > zillion times better than a lot of two-lane surface roads in WV and KY.> H.B., while you make a valid point that US 35 is far better than a of other two-lane roads in WV, it is pretty substandard by the standards> of other states' major two-lane arterial highways. The lanes are very> narrow -- probably no better than 9' -- and for the most part, there no shoulder, period, on either side. Given the high volume of truck> traffic US 35 sees as the primary connection between central Ohio and> points north and west, and the Carolinas via I-77, it can make for a> tricky drive. US 35 has two 12' lanes with no shoulder for most of its duration as a two-lane facility from the end of the four-lane segment at Henderson to Interstate 64. Keeping an adequate following distance and adding turn lanes at key intersections are easy interm improvements for both the drivers and the state.
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