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K Flynn 3 March 2005 09:01:42
	I am in Chicago for a few days for work, and I am struck by the poor condition of the roads. We have had to swerve around potholes on Lake Shore Drive that were so huge, we could have sworn they were furnished inside with some wall hangings. Yikes. Anybody here from Chicagoland who can provide some insight into why this state of affairs exists? Lake Shore is US 41 (or is it US 14? They're both there somewhere). Is it maintained by the city or by the state?
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Eoe 3 March 2005 18:38:16 [ permanent link ]
	k_flynn@lycos.com wrote:> I am in Chicago for a few days for work, and I am struck by the poor> condition of the roads. We have had to swerve around potholes on Lake> Shore Drive that were so huge, we could have sworn they were furnished> inside with some wall hangings. Yikes. Anybody here from Chicagoland> who can provide some insight into why this state of affairs exists?> Lake Shore is US 41 (or is it US 14? They're both there somewhere). it maintained by the city or by the state? CDOT is the agency responsible for LSD but it happens on all area roads. Snow plowing is great for opening up car swallowing pot holes. A few weeks back there was one large enough to close a lane on the Dan Ryan for a day.
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Guest 3 March 2005 21:49:32 [ permanent link ]
	Anybody here from Chicagoland> who can provide some insight into why this state of affairs exists? Potholes? In a northeastern or midwestern City? In March? I've never heard of such a thing! It's not like we have roads that aren't perfectly drained, never get dug up for whatever-we've-decided to bury this month, don't experience freeze/thaw cycles, don't have more traffic running over them than their designed capacity, and not even any snowplow blades to snag on anything that pops above the level of the roadway ;)
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K Flynn 4 March 2005 03:50:17 [ permanent link ]
	mkivela@snet.net wrote:> > Anybody here from Chicagoland> > who can provide some insight into why this state of affairs exists?> Potholes?> In a northeastern or midwestern City?> In March?> I've never heard of such a thing! Well get this, it's true!! I've seen them. ;-> It's not like we have roads that aren't perfectly drained, never get> dug up for whatever-we've-decided to bury this month, don't experience> freeze/thaw cycles, don't have more traffic running over them than> their designed capacity, and not even any snowplow blades to snag on> anything that pops above the level of the roadway ;) It might be "not like" all that, but it's also not like they don't have access to patch and fill material either. I mean, one of these things looked like the start of a second Grand Canyon. Haven't they ever heard of filling them in? I don't think I've ever seen a pothole more than two feet deep before.
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Mark Roberts 5 March 2005 08:56:21 [ permanent link ]
	k_flynn@lycos.com <k_flynn@lycos.com> had written: \| I am in Chicago for a few days for work, and I am struck by the poor \| condition of the roads. We have had to swerve around potholes on Lake \| Shore Drive that were so huge, we could have sworn they were furnished \| inside with some wall hangings. Yikes. Anybody here from Chicagoland \| who can provide some insight into why this state of affairs exists? Weather. -- Mark Roberts markrobt@myrealbox.com Permission to archive this article in any form is hereby explicitly denied.
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K Flynn 6 March 2005 00:33:47 [ permanent link ]
	Mark Roberts wrote:> k_flynn@lycos.com <k_flynn@lycos.com> had written:> \| I am in Chicago for a few days for work, and I am struck by the poor> \| condition of the roads. We have had to swerve around potholes on Lake> \| Shore Drive that were so huge, we could have sworn they were furnished> \| inside with some wall hangings. Yikes. Anybody here from Chicagoland> \| who can provide some insight into why this state of affairs exists?> Weather. That only explains half the question, and the half we already knew to boot. My question is, why are they allowed to remain without being repaired particularly on such major thoroughfares as LSD?
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Dan Vincent 6 March 2005 01:21:52 [ permanent link ]
	That only explains half the question, and the half we already knew to> boot. My question is, why are they allowed to remain without being> repaired particularly on such major thoroughfares as LSD? Money? Politics? These are the two most likely answers.
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Pat O'Connell 6 March 2005 10:51:15 [ permanent link ]
	Dan Vincent wrote:>> That only explains half the question, and the half we already knew to>> boot. My question is, why are they allowed to remain without being>> repaired particularly on such major thoroughfares as LSD?> Money? Politics? Psychedelics...<g,d,&r> -- Pat O'Connell [note munged EMail address] Take nothing but pictures, Leave nothing but footprints, Kill nothing but vandals...
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Dan Vincent 6 March 2005 23:55:59 [ permanent link ]
	Here's another random question for people in m.t.r... I was in Chicago a few weeks ago and I was wondering about a few oddities. Like.... http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=4&S=11&Z=16&X=1067&Y=11619&W=1&qs=%7cRosemont%7cIL Cloverleaf interchange with US 12/45 (Mannheim Road) and I-190... ghost grading. Was there ever a ramp there or was it never built? http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=4&S=11&Z=16&X=1068&Y=11617&W=1&qs=%7cRosemont%7cIL Half trumpet interchange between Mannheim Road and Balmoral Ave... Balmoral ave just ends at Jersey barriers while the ramps go to N. Mannheim Road. I wonder if there were supposed to be flyover ramps or something? There's lots of nice old signage near O'Hare too. Wish I nabbed some pictures while I was there.
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Michael G. Koerner 7 March 2005 08:16:27 [ permanent link ]
	Dan Vincent wrote:> Here's another random question for people in m.t.r... I was in Chicago> a few weeks ago and I was wondering about a few oddities.> Like....> http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=4&S=11&Z=16&X=1067&Y=11619&W=1&qs=%7cRosemont%7cIL> Cloverleaf interchange with US 12/45 (Mannheim Road) and I-190... ghost> grading. Was there ever a ramp there or was it never built? The ramp that was there was moved in the late 1980s(?) when the 'new' ORD international terminal was built. It is now a bit to the southwest, on the opposite side of the peoplemover yard. My best guess as to why it was moved was that it was too close to the ramps for that next interchange to the west. http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=4&S=11&Z=16&X=1068&Y=11617&W=1&qs=%7cRosemont%7cIL> Half trumpet interchange between Mannheim Road and Balmoral Ave...> Balmoral ave just ends at Jersey barriers while the ramps go to N.> Mannheim Road. I wonder if there were supposed to be flyover ramps or> something? Not sure about that one. -- ___________________________________________ ____ _______________ Regards, \| \|\ ____ \| \| \| \| \|\ Michael G. Koerner May they \| \| \| \| \| \| rise again! Appleton, Wisconsin USA \| \| \| \| \| \| ___________________________________________ \| \| \| \| \| \| _______________
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Dan Vincent 7 March 2005 10:01:39 [ permanent link ]
	You answered the top question, and as for the bottom one, after some extreme google-fu I discovered a website that talks about it. Basically known as the Balmoral Ave extension project. http://www.cbbel.com/nonflash/projects/balmoral.htm I guess it's to extend Balmoral Avenue and overpass Mannheim Road so there can be direct access to O'Hare from Balmoral Ave (for convention center traffic and easier east Rosemont access, from what I've gathered).
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