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Re: Bright red light in bumper

C.H. 4 May 2005 07:16:00
 On Tue, 03 May 2005 19:14:14 -0700, Old Wolf wrote:
I have seen a handful of cars recently that have a bright red> light in their rear bumper, at night. It is usually about 1/3> of the way in from the right-hand side of the bumper. This light> is brighter than the car's brake lights and even causes me some> glare problems sometimes. What is the purpose of this light> exactly, and is there a legal brightness or direction limit> for taillights, like there is for headlights?

It's a rear foglight. In Europe it is mandatory, but only legal for use
in fog when visibility is less than 150 feet. Over here some bozos either
have no idea their vehicle is equipped with this annoying device or don't
care and just drive around with it on all the time.

Chris
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Daniel J. Stern 4 May 2005 08:35:27 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 3 May 2005, Old Wolf wrote:
I have seen a handful of cars recently that have a bright red light in> their rear bumper, at night. It is usually about 1/3 of the way in from> the right-hand side of the bumper. This light is brighter than the car's> brake lights and even causes me some glare problems sometimes. What is> the purpose of this light exactly, and is there a legal brightness or> direction limit for taillights, like there is for headlights?

Rear Fog Lamps. Mandatory in Europe, optional in North America. This
article explains them: http://lighting.art­icles.mbz.org/rearfo­gs/

Proper implementation is a single lamp (duals mimic brake lamps); proper
placement of a single lamp is on the driver's side of the car.

The problem is that people misuse them (leave them on all the time) or
just aren't even aware their car has them. Present wiring/switching
requirements fail to prevent this; proposed new ones in Europe certainly
will.

And yes, there are legal intensity minimum and maximum, angular spread,
color and other requirements for all exterior lighting functions including
rear fog.

DS
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Nate Nagel 4 May 2005 13:06:37 permanent link ]
 Old Wolf wrote:
I have seen a handful of cars recently that have a bright red> light in their rear bumper, at night. It is usually about 1/3> of the way in from the right-hand side of the bumper. This light> is brighter than the car's brake lights and even causes me some> glare problems sometimes. What is the purpose of this light> exactly, and is there a legal brightness or direction limit> for taillights, like there is for headlights?>

Rear fog light. Only to be used in heavy fog, theoretically.

nate

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Kevin Rhodes 4 May 2005 19:02:01 permanent link ]
 
Rear fog light. Only to be used in heavy fog, theoretically.>
nate>

Though I think they are very helpful in heavy rain\spray and snow as well,
particularly during the day.

Kevin
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Alex Rodriguez 4 May 2005 20:43:17 permanent link ]
 In article <1115172854.307671.­147650@z14g2000cwz.g­ooglegroups.com>,
oldwolf@inspire.net­.nz says...>
I have seen a handful of cars recently that have a bright red>light in their rear bumper, at night. It is usually about 1/3>of the way in from the right-hand side of the bumper. This light>is brighter than the car's brake lights and even causes me some>glare problems sometimes. What is the purpose of this light>exactly, and is there a legal brightness or direction limit>for taillights, like there is for headlights?

Rear fog lamp.
---------
Alex

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Ulf 5 May 2005 05:27:11 permanent link ]
 Nate Nagel wrote:> Old Wolf wrote:>
I have seen a handful of cars recently that have a bright red>> light in their rear bumper, at night. It is usually about 1/3>> of the way in from the right-hand side of the bumper. This light>> is brighter than the car's brake lights and even causes me some>> glare problems sometimes. What is the purpose of this light>> exactly, and is there a legal brightness or direction limit>> for taillights, like there is for headlights?>>
Rear fog light. Only to be used in heavy fog, theoretically.

I wonder if the people who drive with the rear fog lights on all the
time ever wonder what that orange light on the dash means. Likewise, if
a red warning light lit up, would they even notice?
nate>
Ulf
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Doug Warner 5 May 2005 06:42:43 permanent link ]
 Ulf <asdf@asdf.asdf> wrote:

I wonder if the people who drive with the rear fog lights on all the >time ever wonder what that orange light on the dash means. Likewise, if >a red warning light lit up, would they even notice?>
Some keep the front fogs on all the time, because, for some odd
reason, they want to see what's 10 feet in front of their car at 60
MPH. The rear fog comes on with it.

To minimize the glare, I raise the overall light level while following
these cars, by turning my high beams on. When I finally pass them, I
give them a long flash of my rear fog.

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Mot Adv-NSW 5 May 2005 13:15:42 permanent link ]
 
"Doug Warner" <dwarner22@ccharter­.net> wrote in message
news:oq1j71drmi51gc­cht7ebnbl1ohboloc2an­@4ax.com...
Ulf <asdf@asdf.asdf> wrote:

I wonder if the people who drive with the rear fog lights on all the>time ever wonder what that orange light on the dash means. Likewise, if>a red warning light lit up, would they even notice?>
Some keep the front fogs on all the time, because, for some odd
reason, they want to see what's 10 feet in front of their car at 60
MPH. The rear fog comes on with it.

The rear fog light has its own independant switch sire with a yellow pilot
lamp. It should operate if the front fogs are lit, and/or if the low or
high-beam is lit.


To minimize the glare, I raise the overall light level while following
these cars, by turning my high beams on. When I finally pass them, I
give them a long flash of my rear fog.

Understandable, one problem faced by the US is that only one State mentions
them in their driver manual, NYS:
http://www.nydmv.st­ate.ny.us/dmanual/ch­apter10-manual.htm




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Alex Rodriguez 5 May 2005 22:08:37 permanent link ]
 In article <4279e43d$0$79455$1­4726298@news.sunsite­.dk>, mot.adv@gotalk.net.­au
says...>
"Doug Warner" <dwarner22@ccharter­.net> wrote in message >news:oq1j71drmi51g­ccht7ebnbl1ohboloc2a­n@4ax.com...>Ulf <asdf@asdf.asdf> wrote:>
I wonder if the people who drive with the rear fog lights on all the>>time ever wonder what that orange light on the dash means. Likewise, if>>a red warning light lit up, would they even notice?>>
Some keep the front fogs on all the time, because, for some odd>reason, they want to see what's 10 feet in front of their car at 60>MPH. The rear fog comes on with it.

BMW drivers seem to be the worst offenders.
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Alex

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Fbloogyudsr 5 May 2005 22:44:46 permanent link ]
 "Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu>­ wrote > mot.adv@gotalk.net.­au says...
Some keep the front fogs on all the time, because, for some odd>>reason, they want to see what's 10 feet in front of their car at 60>>MPH. The rear fog comes on with it.>
BMW drivers seem to be the worst offenders.

You're not in the US; here, it's Ford Explorer drivers (because their
headlights are so crappy they seem to think they'll see better with
the fogs on. My sister is one of these.)

Floyd
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Ulf 6 May 2005 00:42:16 permanent link ]
 Alex Rodriguez wrote:> In article <4279e43d$0$79455$1­4726298@news.sunsite­.dk>, mot.adv@gotalk.net.­au > says...>
"Doug Warner" <dwarner22@ccharter­.net> wrote in message >>news:oq1j71drmi51­gccht7ebnbl1ohboloc2­an@4ax.com...>>Ulf <asdf@asdf.asdf> wrote:>>
I wonder if the people who drive with the rear fog lights on all the>>>time ever wonder what that orange light on the dash means. Likewise, if>>>a red warning light lit up, would they even notice?>>>
Some keep the front fogs on all the time, because, for some odd>>reason, they want to see what's 10 feet in front of their car at 60>>MPH. The rear fog comes on with it.

My experience is the opposite. You can run the front fog lights without
the rears, but not the other way around.
BMW drivers seem to be the worst offenders.

When I drive my BMW(s) I always turn off the fog lights when they might
be glaring to oncoming drivers.

-------------> Alex>
Ulf
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Daniel J. Stern 6 May 2005 23:23:23 permanent link ]
 On Fri, 6 May 2005, Motorhead Lawyer wrote:
BMW drivers seem to be the worst offenders.
Ah, Alex, as a BMW driver myself, I have undertaken a statistically> flawed study of my own which will henceforth gain the veracity of> having been published "on the Internet". In it, I determined that,> while BMW drivers may *seem* to be the worst offenders, it is simply> because BMWs are more noticeable cars. Not all of them have the fog> lamps turned on 24/7 (Mine certainly doesn't.).

CRK, I'm sure you maintain full control of your car's lights at all times,
but I have to wonder if maybe BMWs don't seem to be the biggest offenders
on full-time rear fogs 'cause most North American-market BMWs...haven't
got them?
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Brent P 7 May 2005 02:05:50 permanent link ]
 In article <1115397148.477725.­305800@g14g2000cwa.g­ooglegroups.com>, Motorhead Lawyer wrote:>
Alex Rodriguez wrote:>>
BMW drivers seem to be the worst offenders.>
Ah, Alex, as a BMW driver myself, I have undertaken a statistically> flawed study of my own which will henceforth gain the veracity of> having been published "on the Internet". In it, I determined that,> while BMW drivers may *seem* to be the worst offenders, it is simply> because BMWs are more noticeable cars. Not all of them have the fog> lamps turned on 24/7 (Mine certainly doesn't.). However, in a stunning> revelation, my manufactured results tell me that the worst offenders> are actually *Pontiac drivers*. You simply don't notice them because> Pontiacs fail to attract attention due to their ubiquity.

I notice rear fogs left on, on all sorts of vehicles. However there are
only a limited number of GM models so equipped. There are numerous BMW
models so equiped. There's your difference.


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