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CarGuru > Driving > What is the legal way to buckle a seatbelt? 4 May 2005 03:32:29

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What is the legal way to buckle a seatbelt?

Guest 3 May 2005 13:57:23
 The signs along the road say the state law requires that seat belts
are buckled. According to that, I can buckle it any way I wish. I
can buckle it when I am outside the car, and when I get into the car,
just sit on it, with it buckled behind me. I can leave it buckled all
the time against the seat, and just leave it that way. The signs do
not specify that the seat belt must be around my body, or over my lap,
or any other specific rules. It just states that they must be
buckled. In some cars, the seat belts can even be pulled thru the
seat and could be buckled behind the seat.

Has anyone ever run into any sort of situation like this, or know of
cases where there was a legal case because someone did have their
seatbelt buckled but not around their body?

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Scott en Aztln 3 May 2005 17:01:48 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 03 May 2005 04:57:23 -0500, someone@ontheroad.c­om wrote:
The signs along the road say the state law requires that seat belts>are buckled. According to that, I can buckle it any way I wish.

That's certainly the "malicious obedience" way of doing it.

Not too long ago, there was a post to this group from someone who
received a ticket for wearing his seat belt. I suspect the same would
happen to you if you ran into the right cop.

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Thomas Schäfer 3 May 2005 18:21:45 permanent link ]
 <someone@ontheroad.c­om> wrote
Has anyone ever run into any sort of situation like this, or know of> cases where there was a legal case because someone did have their> seatbelt buckled but not around their body?

In germany the police would refer to the manual of the car
(or belt manufacturer, if you installed a separate belt system).
For the most popular 3 point belts very easy to decide.

Full punishment, if you don't wear the seatbelt as indicated.

Thomas


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John F. Carr 3 May 2005 19:27:58 permanent link ]
 In article <o1ie71tanl1e2jtvv7­etnia5ig5mvsdp2i@4ax­.com>,
<someone@ontheroad.­com> wrote:>The signs along the road say the state law requires that seat belts>are buckled. According to that, I can buckle it any way I wish.

You could buckle all the belts and hang them out the window without
violating the signs but that wouldn't make any difference in the
legal consequences. The officer wouldn't charge you with disobeying
the sign. He would charge you with disobeying the state's seat belt
law.

In Massachusetts motor vehicle drivers and passengers must wear
"a safety belt which is properly adjusted and fastened." That
is the legal requirement. It applies even in the absence of
signs. The signs are reminders.

You might as well argue that you didn't break the speed limit
because the sign neglected to say "miles per hour".

--
John Carr (jfc@mit.edu)
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Alex Rodriguez 3 May 2005 21:17:51 permanent link ]
 In article <o1ie71tanl1e2jtvv7­etnia5ig5mvsdp2i@4ax­.com>, someone@ontheroad.c­om
says...>
The signs along the road say the state law requires that seat belts>are buckled. According to that, I can buckle it any way I wish. I>can buckle it when I am outside the car, and when I get into the car,>just sit on it, with it buckled behind me. I can leave it buckled all>the time against the seat, and just leave it that way. The signs do>not specify that the seat belt must be around my body, or over my lap,>or any other specific rules. It just states that they must be>buckled. In some cars, the seat belts can even be pulled thru the>seat and could be buckled behind the seat. >
Has anyone ever run into any sort of situation like this, or know of>cases where there was a legal case because someone did have their>seatbelt buckled but not around their body?

Before you try it, you should read the actual seat belt law in your state.
The signs on the road are just reminders. You may find that the law specifies
that you can't do what you propse.
---------------
Alex

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Dirty Sanchez 4 May 2005 03:14:42 permanent link ]
 someone@ontheroad.co­m wrote:> Has anyone ever run into any sort of situation like this, or know of> cases where there was a legal case because someone did have their> seatbelt buckled but not around their body?>

I doubt it, nobody would be that stupid. Go ahead and try it though,
you'll be doing everyone else on the road a favour the day you have an
accident and crack your head open on the dashboard.

While you're at it, why don't turn your brake lights around so that they
light up the inside of your boot/trunk a pretty red. When someone runs
up the back of you, you can try and argue that your brake lights were in
fact functioning properly.

Hell, while you're at it, why don't you have the B pillars in your car
replaced with balsa wood. When your passenger is killed by a cyclist
running into the side of your car, you can argue your car was perfectly
safe as it was in fact equipped with B pillars.

You idiot.
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James C. Reeves 4 May 2005 03:32:29 permanent link ]
 The sign can't possibly relay the complete text of the statute for which it
is referring to. I'd suggest that you read the text of the statute. I'll
bet that it's just a tiny bit more specific in communicating what proper
belt use means.

<someone@ontheroad.­com> wrote in message
news:o1ie71tanl1e2j­tvv7etnia5ig5mvsdp2i­@4ax.com...> The signs along the road say the state law requires that seat belts> are buckled. According to that, I can buckle it any way I wish. I> can buckle it when I am outside the car, and when I get into the car,> just sit on it, with it buckled behind me. I can leave it buckled all> the time against the seat, and just leave it that way. The signs do> not specify that the seat belt must be around my body, or over my lap,> or any other specific rules. It just states that they must be> buckled. In some cars, the seat belts can even be pulled thru the> seat and could be buckled behind the seat.>
Has anyone ever run into any sort of situation like this, or know of> cases where there was a legal case because someone did have their> seatbelt buckled but not around their body?>


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