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CarGuru > Driving > Rear turn signal color effect... Re: Good Chevy/GM products? 25 April 2005 07:51:30

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Rear turn signal color effect... Re: Good Chevy/GM products?

Timothy J. Lee 22 April 2005 21:06:01
 In article <Pine.GSO.4.58.0504­210012120.24343@alum­ni.engin.umich.edu>,­
Daniel J. Stern <dastern@127.0.0.1>­ wrote:>Worse than the turn signal DRLs are the all-red rear lamps. I was at the>UMTRI library last week and found a Sivak/Flannagan paper that showed a>very significant improvement in the speed (110msec improvement on average)>and accuracy (think 20% improvement on average, study's not in front of>me) of following drivers to a car's *brake lights* when the braking car>had amber rear signals compared to red.

Was there any likely reason given for this effect?

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Daniel J. Stern 22 April 2005 21:29:58 permanent link ]
 On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Timothy J. Lee wrote:
Worse than the turn signal DRLs are the all-red rear lamps. I was at the> >UMTRI library last week and found a Sivak/Flannagan paper that showed a> >very significant improvement in the speed (110msec improvement on average)> >and accuracy (think 20% improvement on average, study's not in front of> >me) of following drivers to a car's *brake lights* when the braking car> >had amber rear signals compared to red.>
Was there any likely reason given for this effect?

'cause no time was wasted (nor any chance of error introduced) trying to
figure out "What does this red light mean?".
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Timothy J. Lee 23 April 2005 03:15:51 permanent link ]
 In article <Pine.GSO.4.58.0504­221329020.19755@alum­ni.engin.umich.edu>,­
Daniel J. Stern <dastern@127.0.0.1>­ wrote:>On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Timothy J. Lee wrote:>
Worse than the turn signal DRLs are the all-red rear lamps. I was at the>> >UMTRI library last week and found a Sivak/Flannagan paper that showed a>> >very significant improvement in the speed (110msec improvement on average)>> >and accuracy (think 20% improvement on average, study's not in front of>> >me) of following drivers to a car's *brake lights* when the braking car>> >had amber rear signals compared to red.>>
Was there any likely reason given for this effect?>
'cause no time was wasted (nor any chance of error introduced) trying to>figure out "What does this red light mean?".

But was it based on the specific car (e.g. following drivers react to
the brake lamps on a 2004 Honda Accord sedan ahead of them faster than
on a 2005 Honda Accord sedan ahead of them), or due to a general driving
environment where red rear turn signals are common, versus a general
driving environment where all rear turn signals are yellow?

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Daniel J. Stern 23 April 2005 05:52:49 permanent link ]
 On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Timothy J. Lee wrote:
Worse than the turn signal DRLs are the all-red rear lamps. I was at> >> >the UMTRI library last week and found a Sivak/Flannagan paper that> >> >showed a very significant improvement in the speed (110msec> >> >improvement on average) and accuracy (think 20% improvement on> >> >average, study's not in front of me) of following drivers to a car's> >> >*brake lights* when the braking car had amber rear signals compared> >> >to red.
But was it based on the specific car (e.g. following drivers react to> the brake lamps on a 2004 Honda Accord sedan ahead of them faster than> on a 2005 Honda Accord sedan ahead of them), or due to a general driving> environment where red rear turn signals are common, versus a general> driving environment where all rear turn signals are yellow?

A little of both. Study protocol is seldom as "real worldy" as comparing
reactions to an '04 Accord vs. an '05 Accord, though there's a ood
argument to be made that there are times it should be. And general driving
environment does factor into it -- the authors discuss this. Their
findings seem most directly applicable to reaction time whenever rear turn
signal color is known. This knowledge can come from observation (observing
driver sees the car use a signal, so knows that a red light from that car
means "brake", or sees an amber lens or bulb) or from environmental
control (i.e., all cars have amber rear turn signals).

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Ulf 24 April 2005 02:44:30 permanent link ]
 Daniel J. Stern wrote:> On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Timothy J. Lee wrote:>
Worse than the turn signal DRLs are the all-red rear lamps. I was at>>>>>the UMTRI library last week and found a Sivak/Flannagan paper that>>>>>showed a very significant improvement in the speed (110msec>>>>>improv­ement on average) and accuracy (think 20% improvement on>>>>>average, study's not in front of me) of following drivers to a car's>>>>>*brake lights* when the braking car had amber rear signals compared>>>>>to red.

How about forwarding that study to Transport Canada...

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But was it based on the specific car (e.g. following drivers react to>>the brake lamps on a 2004 Honda Accord sedan ahead of them faster than>>on a 2005 Honda Accord sedan ahead of them), or due to a general driving>>environmen­t where red rear turn signals are common, versus a general>>driving environment where all rear turn signals are yellow?>
A little of both. Study protocol is seldom as "real worldy" as comparing> reactions to an '04 Accord vs. an '05 Accord, though there's a ood> argument to be made that there are times it should be. And general driving> environment does factor into it -- the authors discuss this. Their> findings seem most directly applicable to reaction time whenever rear turn> signal color is known. This knowledge can come from observation (observing> driver sees the car use a signal, so knows that a red light from that car> means "brake", or sees an amber lens or bulb) or from environmental> control (i.e., all cars have amber rear turn signals).>
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