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SUV Driver Shot
Scott en Aztln 22 April 2005 18:37:30
	KTLA reports that someone in a purple sedan shot the driver of a black SUV, seriously wounding him. Witnesses say the motive may have been an improper lane change on the part of the SUV driver. This is the third freeway shooting incident in the LA area in recent days. Maybe with all the publicity people will start paying a little better attention to their driving... -- Sloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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Magnulus 22 April 2005 19:50:36 [ permanent link ]
	"Scott en Aztlбn" <slothkills@NOyahooSPAM.com> wrote in message news:qn2i61l9e6ujn5fhb7ficfgnvcntheaf7l@4ax.com...> This is the third freeway shooting incident in the LA area in recent> days. Maybe with all the publicity people will start paying a little> better attention to their driving.. You can't be serious... You realize you're rationalizing attempted murder. Nobody deserves to get shot, even if they are the worst driver in the world. Maybe they deserve a ticket, but not a bullet. It's pretty chilling because it shows people are flying off the handle more and more. I think Americans are becomming decidedly less good natured, which used to be a national trait. Perhaps it's due to a coarsening of our culture and media, or to a certain anomie, lawlessness, as our political and economic life withers away into idiotic jingoism, sloganism filled with sound bites and cliches, cronyism and greed (MFFY?).
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Bill 2 23 April 2005 00:21:24 [ permanent link ]
	"Magnulus" <magnulus@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:r19ae.116451$vL3.64518@bignews4.bellsouth.net...> "Scott en Aztlбn" <slothkills@NOyahooSPAM.com> wrote in message> news:qn2i61l9e6ujn5fhb7ficfgnvcntheaf7l@4ax.com...>> This is the third freeway shooting incident in the LA area in recent>> days. Maybe with all the publicity people will start paying a little>> better attention to their driving..> You can't be serious... You realize you're rationalizing attempted> murder. Nobody deserves to get shot, even if they are the worst driver in> the world. Judy? You think it doesn't deserve to be shot? It's pretty chilling because it shows people are flying off the handle> more and more. I think Americans are becomming decidedly less good > natured,> which used to be a national trait. Perhaps it's due to a coarsening of > our> culture and media, or to a certain anomie, lawlessness, as our political > and> economic life withers away into idiotic jingoism, sloganism filled with> sound bites and cliches, cronyism and greed (MFFY?). And people only have a finite tolerance to garbage. Eventually someone will cut them off and they will be shot.
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The Real Bev 23 April 2005 01:22:01 [ permanent link ]
	Magnulus wrote:> "Scott en AztlГЎn" <slothkills@NOyahooSPAM.com> wrote:> > This is the third freeway shooting incident in the LA area in recent> > days. Maybe with all the publicity people will start paying a little> > better attention to their driving..> You can't be serious... You realize you're rationalizing attempted> murder. Nobody deserves to get shot, even if they are the worst driver in> the world. Maybe they deserve a ticket, but not a bullet.> It's pretty chilling because it shows people are flying off the handle> more and more. I think Americans are becomming decidedly less good natured,> which used to be a national trait. Perhaps it's due to a coarsening of our> culture and media, or to a certain anomie, lawlessness, as our political and> economic life withers away into idiotic jingoism, sloganism filled with> sound bites and cliches, cronyism and greed (MFFY?). You're making it way too complex. I think we're just getting REALLY sick of lousy drivers getting in our way. "Good natured" doesn't mean "Sure, I'll be happy to bend over." -- Cheers, Bev =================================================== Red ship crashes into blue ship - sailors marooned.
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L Sternn 23 April 2005 01:46:22 [ permanent link ]
	On 22 Apr 2005 10:10:38 -0700, "Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote: It's pretty chilling because it shows people are flying off the>handle>> more and more. I think Americans are becomming decidedly less good>natured,>> which used to be a national trait.> This coming from a guy who endorses the torching of Hummers. Good point - I'm not crying very many tears for the SUV driver, but it was wrong to shoot him. It's time to review ouw traffic laws and keep assholes and vigilantes alike off the fucking roads and in prison. If that means toughening the DL tests, so be it. If those assholes can't figure out how to use public transportation, the Darwin help us! Let them eat cake or starve. Down with welfare!
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Scott en Aztln 23 April 2005 08:39:57 [ permanent link ]
	On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:46:22 -0700, L Sternn <lincolnfs@hm.net> wrote: It's pretty chilling because it shows people are flying off the handle>>> more and more. I think Americans are becomming decidedly less good natured,>>> which used to be a national trait.>> This coming from a guy who endorses the torching of Hummers.> Good point - I'm not crying very many tears for the SUV driver, but it>was wrong to shoot him. Obviously people are getting fed up with MFFY drivers. -- Sloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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Snow 23 April 2005 18:40:21 [ permanent link ]
	Well - arson is a crime but then, so is owning a hummer. Where did you pull this from??? nevermind I don't even want to know.. But Hummers are great Snow...
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Magnulus 23 April 2005 21:54:20 [ permanent link ]
	"The Real Bev" <bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:42696AF9.3CBCA0B@myrealbox.com...> You're making it way too complex. I think we're just getting REALLY sick lousy drivers getting in our way. Maybe you'll be sick of that tree getting in your way when you wrap your car around it driving at 100 miles per hour.
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Skip Elliott Bowman 23 April 2005 23:34:03 [ permanent link ]
	"Magnulus" <magnulus@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:TSvae.96223$f%4.26381@bignews1.bellsouth.net...> "The Real Bev" <bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote in message> news:42696AF9.3CBCA0B@myrealbox.com...>> You're making it way too complex. I think we're just getting REALLY sick> of>> lousy drivers getting in our way.> Maybe you'll be sick of that tree getting in your way when you wrap your> car around it driving at 100 miles per hour. Naw--she'll just shoot it. That'll teach that inconsiderate tree to jump out and bite cars.
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Sir Lex 25 April 2005 12:48:37 [ permanent link ]
	Scott en AztlГЎn wrote:> KTLA reports that someone in a purple sedan shot the driver of a black> SUV, seriously wounding him. Witnesses say the motive may have been an> improper lane change on the part of the SUV driver.> This is the third freeway shooting incident in the LA area in recent> days. Maybe with all the publicity people will start paying a little> better attention to their driving... I don't like people who drive SUV's/4x4's when they don't need one, and I don't like drivers who pull improper lane changes no matter what vehicle they are driving. However shooting someone for not changing lanes properly is ridiculous. The person who shot the SUV driver should go to prison for attempted murder and nothing less. We are only human, and no matter how good a driver is they are bound to make a mistake once in a while. That doesn't give anyone else the right to shoot anyone. I enjoy reading most of your posts about idiot drivers, however I can't say I agree with you on this one.
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C. E. White 25 April 2005 17:06:28 [ permanent link ]
	Sir Lex wrote:> I don't like people who drive SUV's/4x4's when they don't need one, and How about people who drive Corvettes? Or Ferraris? Or any high powered, gas guzzling. over priced European or Japanese or American "luxury" and/or "performance" car? People don't need these and they definitely suck gas and often encourage dangerous and aggressive driving. I have often been cut off by three pointed star driving jerks. So, I guess it is OK if I don't like people who drive Mercedes, since no one needs one. Ditto for all Lexus, Acura, BMW, Lincoln, Cadillac, Porsche, etc., drivers...... I suppose you only like Honda Civic drivers (and maybe Corrolla and Focus drivers). Or maybe only Prius drivers qualify for your approval. Ed
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223rem 25 April 2005 18:58:09 [ permanent link ]
	C. E. White wrote: Sir Lex wrote:> I don't like people who drive SUV's/4x4's when they don't need one, and> How about people who drive Corvettes? Or Ferraris? Or any> high powered, gas guzzling. over priced European or Japanese> or American "luxury" and/or "performance" car? People don't> need these and they definitely suck gas and often encourage> dangerous and aggressive driving. I have often been cut off> by three pointed star driving jerks. So, I guess it is OK if> I don't like people who drive Mercedes, since no one needs> one. Ditto for all Lexus, Acura, BMW, Lincoln, Cadillac,> Porsche, etc., drivers BMVs or Corvettes or Mercs dont block my view of the road, dont turn in intersections and 10 miles an hour, dont cruise in the left lane, dont have long stopping distances, etc. OK?
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Scott en AztlГЎn 25 April 2005 18:59:53 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:48:37 GMT, Sir Lex <SL@nospam.com.au> wrote: Scott en AztlГЎn wrote:>> KTLA reports that someone in a purple sedan shot the driver of a black>> SUV, seriously wounding him. Witnesses say the motive may have been an>> improper lane change on the part of the SUV driver.>> This is the third freeway shooting incident in the LA area in recent>> days. Maybe with all the publicity people will start paying a little>> better attention to their driving...> I don't like people who drive SUV's/4x4's when they don't need one, and >I don't like drivers who pull improper lane changes no matter what >vehicle they are driving. However shooting someone for not changing >lanes properly is ridiculous. The person who shot the SUV driver should >go to prison for attempted murder and nothing less.> We are only human, and no matter how good a driver is they are bound to >make a mistake once in a while. That doesn't give anyone else the right >to shoot anyone.> I enjoy reading most of your posts about idiot drivers, however I can't >say I agree with you on this one. What, exactly, are you disagreeing with? My speculation that drivers might start paying a little better attention to their driving? You may be interested to know that the one of the drivers that the KTLA interviewed in relation to this morning's report about the shooting in Tustin specifically mentioned that he would try to be more careful. -- Life is short - drive fast! http://www.geocities.com/scottenaztlan/about.html
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Scott en Aztln 25 April 2005 19:02:20 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:06:28 -0400, "C. E. White" <cewhite3@nospam.com> wrote: Sir Lex wrote:>> I don't like people who drive SUV's/4x4's when they don't need one, and> How about people who drive Corvettes? Or Ferraris? Or any>high powered, gas guzzling. over priced European or Japanese>or American "luxury" and/or "performance" car? People don't>need these and they definitely suck gas and often encourage>dangerous and aggressive driving. I take offense to that statement. There is nothing about a car - any car - that encourages dangerous and aggressive driving. It's all in the drivers. -- Life is short - drive fast! http://www.geocities.com/scottenaztlan/about.html
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Skip Elliott Bowman 25 April 2005 19:29:54 [ permanent link ]
	"Scott en Aztlбn" <scottenaztlan@NOyahooSPAM.com> wrote in message news:qa1q61pr3j8cfm9ecg5oqkfo57fcf2nbbj@4ax.com...> On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:48:37 GMT, Sir Lex <SL@nospam.com.au> wrote:> Scott en Aztlбn wrote:>>> KTLA reports that someone in a purple sedan shot the driver of a black>>> SUV, seriously wounding him. Witnesses say the motive may have been an>>> improper lane change on the part of the SUV driver.>>> This is the third freeway shooting incident in the LA area in recent>>> days. Maybe with all the publicity people will start paying a little>>> better attention to their driving...>> I don't like people who drive SUV's/4x4's when they don't need one, and>>I don't like drivers who pull improper lane changes no matter what>>vehicle they are driving. However shooting someone for not changing>>lanes properly is ridiculous. The person who shot the SUV driver should>>go to prison for attempted murder and nothing less.>> We are only human, and no matter how good a driver is they are bound to>>make a mistake once in a while. That doesn't give anyone else the right>>to shoot anyone.>> I enjoy reading most of your posts about idiot drivers, however I can't>>say I agree with you on this one.> What, exactly, are you disagreeing with? My speculation that drivers> might start paying a little better attention to their driving? You may> be interested to know that the one of the drivers that the KTLA> interviewed in relation to this morning's report about the shooting in> Tustin specifically mentioned that he would try to be more careful. So you support drivers shooting handguns on roadways as an effective method of traffic control, even if they kill someone?
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Skip Elliott Bowman 25 April 2005 19:30:56 [ permanent link ]
	"Scott en Aztlбn" <scottenaztlan@NOyahooSPAM.com> wrote in message news:rf1q611qi4ogvvu5vujv642ole4of089ir@4ax.com... There is nothing about a car - any> car - that encourages dangerous and aggressive driving. It's all in> the drivers. Scott, you are right on the money with this. The best car in the world can't help a lousy driver.
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Jim Yanik 26 April 2005 04:59:02 [ permanent link ]
	"Skip Elliott Bowman" <skipster@teleport.com> wrote in news:Q28be.705$Oz2.227@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net: "Scott en Aztlбn" <scottenaztlan@NOyahooSPAM.com> wrote in message > news:rf1q611qi4ogvvu5vujv642ole4of089ir@4ax.com...> There is nothing about a car - any>> car - that encourages dangerous and aggressive driving. It's all in>> the drivers.> Scott, you are right on the money with this. The best car in the world > can't help a lousy driver. > Sure it will(help,not cure;nothing is perfect); it will increase the safety margins available;have a lower tendency to lose control,or roll over,and stop better.And have less of an impact on others if it does collide with someone.(like having a standard bumper height,so it will not ride over the other vehicle) Putting a marginal driver in a marginal vehicle(SUV) increases the chances for "incidents". -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net
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C. E. White 26 April 2005 21:54:50 [ permanent link ]
	223rem wrote:> C. E. White wrote:> Sir Lex wrote:> > I don't like people who drive SUV's/4x4's when they don't need one, and> > How about people who drive Corvettes? Or Ferraris? Or any> > high powered, gas guzzling. over priced European or Japanese> > or American "luxury" and/or "performance" car? People don't> > need these and they definitely suck gas and often encourage> > dangerous and aggressive driving. I have often been cut off> > by three pointed star driving jerks. So, I guess it is OK if> > I don't like people who drive Mercedes, since no one needs> > one. Ditto for all Lexus, Acura, BMW, Lincoln, Cadillac,> > Porsche, etc., drivers> BMVs or Corvettes or Mercs dont block my view of the road, dont turn> in intersections and 10 miles an hour, dont cruise in the left> lane, dont have long stopping distances, etc.> OK? BS. If you haven't seen Mercedes driving 10 mph and/or cruising in the left lane you aren't looking. As for braking distances, you are taking about a difference (60 to 0) of less than 6%. According to Consumer Reports, BMWs and Mercedes have stopping distances from 60 of 127 to 136 feet. An Explorer Sport Trac had a stopping distance of 138 feet. Just changing to better tires could reduce that to the same as your expensive German cars. Even the worst SUV listed, The Dodge Durango, only took 155 feet and I'll bet with proper tires, you could get that under 140. For the most part, SUVs are similar to other domestic cars listed be Consumer Reports. If short stopping distances are important, both the 350Z and RX-8 crushed any of the over priced German yachts. And you must think Civic drivers have X-Ray Vision if you think they can see past 7 Series BMWs and S-Class Mercedes. You don't like SUVs - fine don't buy one. I am tired of people who don't like them demonizing them for all sort of ridiculous reasons. If you don't like them because they suck gas, fine, say that, but don't give "performance" cars that suck just as much gas a free ride. If you think SUVs are too big, fine, but be sure to gripe about large cars and mini-vans as well. Exactly what car does meet your approval? I assume it must be smaller than yours so you can see over it, have better brakes than yours so it won't ram you in the rear, slower than yours so you can out run it, and cheaper than yours, you you can feel superior. Did I miss anything? Ed
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C. E. White 26 April 2005 22:28:28 [ permanent link ]
	"Scott en AztlГЎn" wrote:> On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:06:28 -0400, "C. E. White"> <cewhite3@nospam.com> wrote:> Sir Lex wrote:> >> I don't like people who drive SUV's/4x4's when they don't need one, and> > How about people who drive Corvettes? Or Ferraris? Or any> >high powered, gas guzzling. over priced European or Japanese> >or American "luxury" and/or "performance" car? People don't> >need these and they definitely suck gas and often encourage> >dangerous and aggressive driving.> I take offense to that statement. There is nothing about a car - any> car - that encourages dangerous and aggressive driving. It's all in> the drivers. You really believe this? You think people drive the same no matter what vehicle they are in? Ed
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