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CarGuru > Driving > Re: Laser Shield License Plate Cover 23 April 2005 04:25:22
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Re: Laser Shield License Plate Cover

C.H. 19 April 2005 23:48:40
 On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:17:24 -0700, ksternberg1 wrote:
Does anyone have any real world experience with the Laser Shield plate> cover? I just got one for my front license plate. Thanks.

Snake Oil and illegal to boot.

Chris

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The Real Bev 20 April 2005 00:46:51 [ permanent link ]
 "C.H." wrote:>
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:17:24 -0700, ksternberg1 wrote:>
Does anyone have any real world experience with the Laser Shield plate> > cover? I just got one for my front license plate. Thanks.>
Snake Oil and illegal to boot.

If they don't work, why are they illegal?

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Alexander Rogge 20 April 2005 02:03:41 [ permanent link ]
 
If they don't work, why are they illegal?

False advertising. The real shield doesn't cover only one spot, and
it's expensive.
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Garth Almgren 20 April 2005 03:02:26 [ permanent link ]
 Around 4/19/2005 3:45 PM, ksternberg1@yahoo.c­om wrote:
Has anyone used this product with success?

I highly doubt it.

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Ignasi Palou-Rivera 20 April 2005 03:16:41 [ permanent link ]
 Garth Almgren <nospam@v6stang.com­> writes:> Around 4/19/2005 3:45 PM, ksternberg1@yahoo.c­om wrote:>
Has anyone used this product with success?>
I highly doubt it.

People will define "success" in all kinds of funny ways. Like it looks "kool".

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Dave Stone 20 April 2005 03:49:48 [ permanent link ]
 ksternberg1@yahoo.co­m wrote in news:1113950734.751­951.96550
@z14g2000cwz.google­groups.com:
Has anyone used this product with success?>

I've observed drivers in Michigan with them once in a while. Over time, the
clear plastic will turn a yellow-brown so that the plate can barely be
read. If that was the manufacturer's intended use, I'd say it works well.
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John F. Carr 20 April 2005 03:59:23 [ permanent link ]
 In article <pan.2005.04.19.19.­48.40.992522@trapspa­m.org>,
C.H. <trapspam@trapspam.­org> wrote:>On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:17:24 -0700, ksternberg1 wrote:>
Does anyone have any real world experience with the Laser Shield plate>> cover? I just got one for my front license plate. Thanks.>
Snake Oil and illegal to boot.

Not illegal where I live, but probably not useful either.

The one plate cover I tested did not prevent laser lockon.


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223rem 20 April 2005 04:21:00 [ permanent link ]
 John F. Carr wrote:
The one plate cover I tested did not prevent laser lockon.

What do you mean by laser 'lockon'?
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John F. Carr 20 April 2005 05:11:20 [ permanent link ]
 In article <Mfh9e.1765$L03.104­1@newssvr17.news.pro­digy.com>,
223rem <223rem@sbcglobal.n­et> wrote:>John F. Carr wrote:>
The one plate cover I tested did not prevent laser lockon.>
What do you mean by laser 'lockon'?

Successful speed measurement.

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223rem 20 April 2005 05:31:15 [ permanent link ]
 John F. Carr wrote:> In article <Mfh9e.1765$L03.104­1@newssvr17.news.pro­digy.com>,> 223rem <223rem@sbcglobal.n­et> wrote:>
John F. Carr wrote:>>
The one plate cover I tested did not prevent laser lockon.>>
What do you mean by laser 'lockon'?>
Successful speed measurement.>

The laser beam doesnt have to lock on the target,
it just has to reflect off it.
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John F. Carr 20 April 2005 05:57:31 [ permanent link ]
 In article <Dhi9e.2920$xA5.127­@newssvr19.news.prod­igy.com>,
223rem <223rem@sbcglobal.c­om> wrote:>John F. Carr wrote:>> In article <Mfh9e.1765$L03.104­1@newssvr17.news.pro­digy.com>,>> 223rem <223rem@sbcglobal.n­et> wrote:>>
John F. Carr wrote:>>>
The one plate cover I tested did not prevent laser lockon.>>>
What do you mean by laser 'lockon'?>>
Successful speed measurement.>>
The laser beam doesnt have to lock on the target,>it just has to reflect off it.

My arguably suboptimal word choice obviously invalidates my
entire experiment. Pelase disregard my above quoted message.

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Jim Yanik 20 April 2005 07:11:32 [ permanent link ]
 The Real Bev <bashley@myrealbox.­com> wrote in
news:42656E3B.165F2­BA3@myrealbox.com:
"C.H." wrote:>>
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:17:24 -0700, ksternberg1 wrote:>>
Does anyone have any real world experience with the Laser Shield plate>> > cover? I just got one for my front license plate. Thanks.>>
Snake Oil and illegal to boot.>
If they don't work, why are they illegal?>

"Interfering with law enforcement".

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Jim Yanik 20 April 2005 07:14:42 [ permanent link ]
 ksternberg1@yahoo.co­m wrote in
news:1113950526.351­841.308590@l41g2000c­wc.googlegroups.com:­
What does this statement mean, exactly? One spot?>

There are other things that reflect the laser bsides your front plate.
I was zapped today and my state does not use front plates.(Florida)
My Valentine-1 did detect it,though.That's how I knew I was laser-zapped
and not radar-zapped.I did not get any -advance- warning,though.
(I already knew there was LEO enforcing the 25mph speed limit,though.)

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Jim Yanik 20 April 2005 07:18:26 [ permanent link ]
 jfc@mit.edu (John F. Carr) wrote in news:4265ac38$0$561­$b45e6eb0@senator-
bedfellow.mit.edu:
In article <Mfh9e.1765$L03.104­1@newssvr17.news.pro­digy.com>,> 223rem <223rem@sbcglobal.n­et> wrote:>>John F. Carr wrote:>>
The one plate cover I tested did not prevent laser lockon.>>
What do you mean by laser 'lockon'?>
Successful speed measurement.>

Did it reduce the "Successful speed measurement" range so that you would be
able to slow after getting a laser detection on the RD/LD?

At some point,a filter would eventually pass enough laser pulse to get a
measurement;it's not going to completely eliminate reflection.
Or the pulse could have been reflected off some other part of your car.

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Scott en Aztln 20 April 2005 08:14:25 [ permanent link ]
 On 19 Apr 2005 11:17:24 -0700, ksternberg1@yahoo.c­om wrote:
Does anyone have any real world experience with the Laser Shield plate>cover? I just got one for my front license plate. Thanks.

You wasted your money.

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Fred 20 April 2005 16:37:41 [ permanent link ]
 the only thing that really works is the shifter made by escort.

but it costs a lot more than that cover.

<ksternberg1@yahoo.­com> wrote in message
news:1113934644.451­923.40560@g14g2000cw­a.googlegroups.com..­.> Does anyone have any real world experience with the Laser Shield plate> cover? I just got one for my front license plate. Thanks.>


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Alex Rodriguez 20 April 2005 21:53:25 [ permanent link ]
 In article <Xns963DEBEF8FAA2jy­anikkuanet@129.250.1­70.86>, jyanik@abuse.gov.
says...>
The Real Bev <bashley@myrealbox.­com> wrote in >news:42656E3B.165F­2BA3@myrealbox.com:>­
"C.H." wrote:>>>
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:17:24 -0700, ksternberg1 wrote:>>>
Does anyone have any real world experience with the Laser Shield plate>>> > cover? I just got one for my front license plate. Thanks.>>>
Snake Oil and illegal to boot.>>
If they don't work, why are they illegal?>>
"Interfering with law enforcement".

That would be a tough one to prove. In many states it is illegal to put
any type of cover over you plate. That is much easier to prove.
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Alex

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Alex Rodriguez 20 April 2005 21:58:47 [ permanent link ]
 In article <3-GdnbTRCqaZ0PvfRV­n-oQ@comcast.com>,
dont_send_fred_spam­@hotmail.com says...>the only thing that really works is the shifter made by escort.

Other companies make similar devices.
but it costs a lot more than that cover.

But the cost to effectiveness ratio is infinitely better.
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Alex

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Jim Yanik 21 April 2005 04:09:18 [ permanent link ]
 Alex Rodriguez <adr5@columbia.edu>­ wrote in
news:d464u2$ev8$7@n­ewsmaster.cc.columbi­a.edu:
In article <Xns963DEBEF8FAA2jy­anikkuanet@129.250.1­70.86>,> jyanik@abuse.gov. says...>>
The Real Bev <bashley@myrealbox.­com> wrote in >>news:42656E3B.165­F2BA3@myrealbox.com:­>>
"C.H." wrote:>>>>
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:17:24 -0700, ksternberg1 wrote:>>>>
Does anyone have any real world experience with the Laser Shield>>>> > plate cover? I just got one for my front license plate. Thanks.>>>>
Snake Oil and illegal to boot.>>>
If they don't work, why are they illegal?>>>
"Interfering with law enforcement".>
That would be a tough one to prove. In many states it is illegal to> put any type of cover over you plate. That is much easier to prove. > ----------------> Alex>

I believe Florida has such a law about "interfering with law
enforcement",in regards to laser or radar jammers,Photoblocke­r spray,and
flashing headlights to warn oncoming traffic about speed traps you passed.

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Alex Rodriguez 21 April 2005 19:14:14 [ permanent link ]
 In article <Xns963ECD0878058jy­anikkuanet@129.250.1­70.84>, jyanik@abuse.gov.
says...
I believe Florida has such a law about "interfering with law >enforcement",in regards to laser or radar jammers,Photoblocke­r spray,and

Probably.
flashing headlights to warn oncoming traffic about speed traps you passed.

I'm pretty sure this is not illegal anywhere in the US. I swear there was a
case that went to court and was thrown out because the driver did nothing
illegal.
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Alex

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BananaRepublican 22 April 2005 13:21:18 [ permanent link ]
 In article <1114007252.286584.­172900@z14g2000cwz.g­ooglegroups.com>,
ksternberg1@yahoo.c­om wrote:
Hmm. Well then, I'll just draw a picture of a pig on it and hope that> wards off the police.

I see my neighbor has a bumper sticker that seZ;

"Bad Cop, No Donut"

I don't recommend you put one on yours. why ask for trouble?>
g adds.
MONEY , what a concept


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John F. Carr 23 April 2005 04:25:22 [ permanent link ]
 In article <d48fvi$iik$7@newsm­aster.cc.columbia.ed­u>,
Alex Rodriguez <adr5@columbia.edu>­ wrote:>>flashing headlights to warn oncoming traffic about speed traps you passed.>
I'm pretty sure this is not illegal anywhere in the US. I swear there was a >case that went to court and was thrown out because the driver did nothing>illegal.

Cases have gone both ways, generally based on the narrow issue of whether
flashing headlights is a violation of the statutes governing use of high
beams.

The only one I specifically remember is Pennsylvania, where the "dim
headlights for nearby vehicles" law was found not to prohibit brief
flashes as a signal in the daytime.

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