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How Much Driving Experience?
Dave Head 16 April 2005 19:19:56
	Another thread has people stating their driving experience, where a newcomer claims to have a bit over 700 miles, so how would you like to list yours? I'll start: I average about 35,000 miles a year. I've had years where that was about 45,000 when I was also driving a lot for work (2 way radio service technician in the 70's) I figure I have over 1 million miles of driving experience. How 'bout y'all? Dave Head
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223rem 17 April 2005 00:23:07 [ permanent link ]
	Dave Head wrote: Another thread has people stating their driving experience, where a newcomer> claims to have a bit over 700 miles, so how would you like to list yours?> I'll start:> I average about 35,000 miles a year.> I've had years where that was about 45,000 when I was also driving a lot for> work (2 way radio service technician in the 70's)> I figure I have over 1 million miles of driving experience.> And after 1 million miles, you're still an LLB? Some people never learn to drive properly.
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Alexander Rogge 17 April 2005 02:23:50 [ permanent link ]
	Some people never learn to drive properly. And all those "Just Let Them Do It" Enablers only worsen the Sloth driving.
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Arif Khokar 17 April 2005 06:40:26 [ permanent link ]
	223rem wrote:> Dave Head wrote: I figure I have over 1 million miles of driving experience. And after 1 million miles, you're still an LLB? Miles in the left lane don't count ;)
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L Sternn 17 April 2005 07:17:08 [ permanent link ]
	On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:23:07 GMT, 223rem <223rem@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Dave Head wrote:> Another thread has people stating their driving experience, where a newcomer>> claims to have a bit over 700 miles, so how would you like to list yours?>> I'll start:>> I average about 35,000 miles a year.>> I've had years where that was about 45,000 when I was also driving a lot for>> work (2 way radio service technician in the 70's)>> I figure I have over 1 million miles of driving experience.>> And after 1 million miles, you're still an LLB?>Some people never learn to drive properly. Which just goes to show that experience does not equate to being a good driver, although the first 10-20,000 miles probably are crucial to understanding how things really are on the roads.
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Dave Head 17 April 2005 07:54:09 [ permanent link ]
	On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:23:07 GMT, 223rem <223rem@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Dave Head wrote:> Another thread has people stating their driving experience, where a newcomer>> claims to have a bit over 700 miles, so how would you like to list yours?>> I'll start:>> I average about 35,000 miles a year.>> I've had years where that was about 45,000 when I was also driving a lot for>> work (2 way radio service technician in the 70's)>> I figure I have over 1 million miles of driving experience.>> And after 1 million miles, you're still an LLB?>Some people never learn to drive properly. So how far have you driven? How many miles per year? DPH
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Dave Head 17 April 2005 14:00:26 [ permanent link ]
	On 16 Apr 2005 22:48:38 -0700, "Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote: Dave Head wrote:>> On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:23:07 GMT, 223rem <223rem@sbcglobal.net>>wrote:>> Dave Head wrote:>> > Another thread has people stating their driving experience, where>a newcomer>> >> claims to have a bit over 700 miles, so how would you like to list>yours?>> >> I'll start:>> >> I average about 35,000 miles a year.>> >> I've had years where that was about 45,000 when I was also driving>a lot for>> >> work (2 way radio service technician in the 70's)>> >> I figure I have over 1 million miles of driving experience.>> >> And after 1 million miles, you're still an LLB?>> >Some people never learn to drive properly.>> So how far have you driven? How many miles per year?> I've probably driven 250,000 miles (I'm 36)... About half what I'm driving, rate-wise, it seems. Wish I could get away with that, but everything seems to be far from everything else, and I seem to have to go places way too often. The health club is 20 miles, each direction, and I'm getting there 3 - 4 times a week. Adds up. If I could get it down to 15,000 miles a year, I could lease a car. As it is, I would have to lease 2 in order to make leasing work. Thinking about it, as I'm figuring to attempt to have only cars newer that 100,000 miles on the odo, so I can have a 100,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty so I don't get hit at the service bay. Last repair on the Jeep was $2300 to get 4 things fixed - exhaust manifold replacement, cat converter replacement, power steering pump replacement (pevious one lasted 6 months), and neutral safety switch replacement (the thing that started the whole service incident - and that _part_ alone cost about $327. Don't want to be buying parts myself any more... get one of these warranties to do it. I've had synchros go at 40,000 and 80,000 miles on the same car, with the mfg warranty covering the 1st, the bumper to bumper catching the 2nd. Mitsubishi trannies suck, BTW.) Anyway, are you where you can get to things real close, or just stay home a lot? DPH
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Thomas Schдfer 17 April 2005 14:09:58 [ permanent link ]
	"Dave Head" wrote I figure I have over 1 million miles of driving experience.> How 'bout y'all? Don't know! I never had counted my kilometers exactly. I had years where I had to drive 50000km with car but now it's about 15000km (car only). And I ride bike and bicycle too (both up to 10000km). All over Europe and S-Asia. In 3 decades it may be about a million kilometers (but not miles, with at least 100000km cycling). Thomas
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Dave Head 17 April 2005 14:14:03 [ permanent link ]
	On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:23:07 GMT, 223rem <223rem@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Dave Head wrote:> Another thread has people stating their driving experience, where a newcomer>> claims to have a bit over 700 miles, so how would you like to list yours?>> I'll start:>> I average about 35,000 miles a year.>> I've had years where that was about 45,000 when I was also driving a lot for>> work (2 way radio service technician in the 70's)>> I figure I have over 1 million miles of driving experience.>> <OT Stuff Deleted> So, how far have you driven, anyway? How many miles per year do you drive? DPH
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Dave Head 17 April 2005 14:15:20 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 02:40:26 GMT, Arif Khokar <akhokar1234@wvu.edu> wrote: 223rem wrote:>> Dave Head wrote:> I figure I have over 1 million miles of driving experience.> And after 1 million miles, you're still an LLB?> <OT Stuff Deleted> So, how many miles have you driven? How many miles a year are you doing now? DPH
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Dave Head 17 April 2005 14:27:30 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:09:58 +0200, "Thomas SchГ¤fer" <thomas.schaefer@akademische.de> wrote: "Dave Head" wrote> I figure I have over 1 million miles of driving experience.>> How 'bout y'all?> Don't know! I never had counted my kilometers exactly. I only calculate them based on my estimated past miles/year. I'm sort of a car hobbyist too, participating in a lot of road rallies, and getting to them piled on lots of miles. I had years where I had to drive 50000km with car>but now it's about 15000km (car only). Wish I could get down to that. And I ride bike and bicycle too (both up to 10000km).>All over Europe and S-Asia. U must be in great shape. I kind of like to bike, but I'm way out in the country presently so getting anywhere significant means a 20 mile drive first, or 17 to work, and I don't care to be biking that even on flat straight roads, which don't exist around here. The roads around her are curvy and hilly, which makes for lots of sudden encounters. You don't see many people trying to bike these roads - there would be someone in a car, eventually, that would fail to avoid a bicycle they couldn't see until they were within a few seconds of hitting it, and that would be the end, Plus, for whatever reason, my fingers go numb if I grip anything, like handlebars, for an extended period of time. This makes riding unpleasant. In 3 decades it may be about a million kilometers>(but not miles, with at least 100000km cycling). I've got about 40 years and over a million miles - fortunately, I _enjoy_ long distance driving. Vacation a few years ago, a rally in S. Arizona, I drove from Virginia, maybe 2400 miles each way. Drove 1200 miles the 1st day - started at 4:00 AM, slept in Texas that night, checking into the motel at 11:30 PM, so got there in the "same day" although had a little help from the change from eastern to central time! <G> I'm flying to almost all the rallies now, the gasoline and motel bills for any significant length trip far outstripping the airline fee and the rental car fee, making the airplane cheaper than the car. Only way I could get back to doing the drives again would be if I was driving with someone sharing the cost - but mostly I drive alone. DPH Thomas>
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Nate Nagel 17 April 2005 16:19:12 [ permanent link ]
	Dave Head wrote: Another thread has people stating their driving experience, where a newcomer> claims to have a bit over 700 miles, so how would you like to list yours?> I'll start:> I average about 35,000 miles a year.> I've had years where that was about 45,000 when I was also driving a lot for> work (2 way radio service technician in the 70's)> I figure I have over 1 million miles of driving experience.> How 'bout y'all?> Dave Head Well, I've been driving since I was 16, and at least since I went to college (fall '87) I have been driving quite a bit every year - first as a shuttle driver for a part-time job during college, and then after that probably averaging between 20-30K a year. So at a rough estimate probably about 300K miles or more, split about halfway between city and highway. Also spent about 6 months developing ABS software which involved some driving situations that most people are probably glad that they never see (but were kind of fun <G>) nate -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel
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223rem 17 April 2005 16:24:08 [ permanent link ]
	Nate Nagel wrote: highway. Also spent about 6 months developing ABS software which > involved some driving situations that most people are probably glad that > they never see (but were kind of fun <G>) So they let the nerds from software development get into the test cars? Of you snuck in at night?
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Nate Nagel 17 April 2005 16:38:31 [ permanent link ]
	223rem wrote: Nate Nagel wrote:> highway. Also spent about 6 months developing ABS software which >> involved some driving situations that most people are probably glad >> that they never see (but were kind of fun <G>)> So they let the nerds from software development get into the> test cars? Of you snuck in at night? Actually I wasn't in raw software development, I took the product from those guys and fine-tuned the software to actually make it work according to spec. Was a very, very cool job and I was sad when I got laid off :/ nate -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel
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223rem 17 April 2005 16:49:29 [ permanent link ]
	Nate Nagel wrote: 223rem wrote:> Nate Nagel wrote:>> highway. Also spent about 6 months developing ABS software which >>> involved some driving situations that most people are probably glad >>> that they never see (but were kind of fun <G>)>> So they let the nerds from software development get into the>> test cars? Of you snuck in at night? > Actually I wasn't in raw software development, I took the product from > those guys and fine-tuned the software to actually make it work > according to spec. Was a very, very cool job and I was sad when I got > laid off :/ Was it Delphi?
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Dave Head 17 April 2005 18:32:55 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:19:12 -0400, Nate Nagel <njnagel@flycast.net> wrote: Dave Head wrote:> Another thread has people stating their driving experience, where a newcomer>> claims to have a bit over 700 miles, so how would you like to list yours?>> I'll start:>> I average about 35,000 miles a year.>> I've had years where that was about 45,000 when I was also driving a lot for>> work (2 way radio service technician in the 70's)>> I figure I have over 1 million miles of driving experience.>> How 'bout y'all?>> Dave Head> Well, I've been driving since I was 16, and at least since I went to >college (fall '87) I have been driving quite a bit every year - first as >a shuttle driver for a part-time job during college, and then after that >probably averaging between 20-30K a year. You wouldn't do well in a lease arrangement either, then. So at a rough estimate >probably about 300K miles or more, split about halfway between city and >highway. Also spent about 6 months developing ABS software which >involved some driving situations that most people are probably glad that >they never see (but were kind of fun <G>)> nate Oh, yeah - developing software is fun. Developing automotive software has to be a special kind of fun. Too bad you got laid off. Get anything interesting since? DPH
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L Sternn 17 April 2005 20:12:25 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 14:32:55 GMT, Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> wrote: Well, I've been driving since I was 16, and at least since I went to >>college (fall '87) I have been driving quite a bit every year - first as >>a shuttle driver for a part-time job during college, and then after that >>probably averaging between 20-30K a year.> You wouldn't do well in a lease arrangement either, then. Who cares? I wouldn't want to lease a car anyway.
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Dave Head 17 April 2005 20:30:36 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:12:25 -0700, L Sternn <lincolnfs@hm.net> wrote: On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 14:32:55 GMT, Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> wrote:> Well, I've been driving since I was 16, and at least since I went to >>>college (fall '87) I have been driving quite a bit every year - first as >>>a shuttle driver for a part-time job during college, and then after that >>>probably averaging between 20-30K a year.>> You wouldn't do well in a lease arrangement either, then.> Who cares? Just chatting. Leasing has been on my mind lately, after ridiculous repair charges on the car I _own_. I wouldn't want to lease a car anyway. That's what I always thought. Now, not sure. DPH
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James C. Reeves 19 April 2005 02:44:14 [ permanent link ]
	My commute is 4 miles taking the main roads...5 miles taking the back roads (one way). Interestingly, I averge about 3-4 MPG better fuel mileage going the back way (only one light and little traffic) compared to 5 lights and more stopping. Time wise, it's about the same...8 minutes or less (about the length of Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven"). A dream commute, for sure! The problem with that short of the commute though is that I really have to keep an eye on the engine oil quality. Condensation from combustion get's into the oil and contributes to oil sludge. The engine rarely has the opportunity to reach a high enough temperature to evoporate-off the condensation. Synthetic oil seems to help some.
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Dave Head 19 April 2005 07:11:38 [ permanent link ]
	On 18 Apr 2005 04:53:45 -0700, perry.freeman@ntlworld.com wrote: Dave Head wrote:>>> >> Another thread has people stating their driving experience, where>a>> >> newcomer>> >> claims to have a bit over 700 miles, so how would you like to list>yours?>> >> I'll start:>> >> I average about 35,000 miles a year.>> >> I've had years where that was about 45,000 when I was also driving>a lot>> >> for>> >> work (2 way radio service technician in the 70's)>> >> I figure I have over 1 million miles of driving experience.>> >> How 'bout y'all?>> >> Dave Head>> > Experience is built on learning. You take the L test and you gain>in knowledge from the experiences that occur or directly affect you at>each drive. Normally we don't learn much from experience: example, if>you are involved in a high speed accident, it probably wont slow you>down, just knock your confidence. So whilst experience counts for a>large percent of the competence of a driver it does not necessarily>mean you are a better driver as a result. With most drivers what>actually happens over time is they become over-confident and start to>drive outside their true ability and this is where drivers have a>higher risk of accident. I learn from experience when I have a close call. I usually agonize over it for a day or two, think about how things got that close, and then figure out a way to prevent it from happening again. Most of 'em really upset me for a long time - several days. I do the, "How could I be that stupid", and "I've got to pay more attention to that kind of threat" thinking, then modify what I do to minimze the threat. I am currently driving 50,000 miles a year and typically this is done>over a 3 day period during the working week. Wow. Sound grueling. Because of my length of>service I must have driven close to 1 million road miles and probably>about 30,000 at Advanced level.> Crazy about driving You'd have to be. Well... enjoy, then! <G> Dave Head
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Dave Head 19 April 2005 07:13:43 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:44:14 -0400, "James C. Reeves" <jcnospam@nospam.com> wrote: My commute is 4 miles taking the main roads...5 miles taking the back roads >(one way). Interestingly, I averge about 3-4 MPG better fuel mileage going >the back way (only one light and little traffic) compared to 5 lights and >more stopping. Time wise, it's about the same...8 minutes or less (about >the length of Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven"). A dream commute, for >sure! Woo hoo! That's great. Just doesn't leave quite enough time for the long version of Inna Gadda Da Vida, tho - maybe just queue up the drum solo!!! The problem with that short of the commute though is that I really have to >keep an eye on the engine oil quality. Condensation from combustion get's >into the oil and contributes to oil sludge. The engine rarely has the >opportunity to reach a high enough temperature to evoporate-off the >condensation. Synthetic oil seems to help some. Sounds like you're on top of it - and its a small price to pay for having such a pristine situation. Dave Head>
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L Sternn 19 April 2005 07:44:35 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:05:01 GMT, Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> wrote: However, the past few years I haven't needed to drive >>nearly as much...probably 10K or so a year these days.> Its hard to imagine only doing 10K. Its 17 miles to work and 17 back, You thought the return trip might be shorter? and 48>weeks of that a year is 8,160 miles. It's fairly easy for me to imagine, especially considering I've averaged just about 8300 miles a year for the past 3 years. It's 2 miles to work, but I come home for lunch fairly often. That's only 2,250 miles. My gawd, I wonder how I manage to rack up all those other miles.
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L Sternn 19 April 2005 07:50:44 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:44:14 -0400, "James C. Reeves" <jcnospam@nospam.com> wrote: My commute is 4 miles taking the main roads...5 miles taking the back roads >(one way). Interestingly, I averge about 3-4 MPG better fuel mileage going >the back way (only one light and little traffic) compared to 5 lights and >more stopping. That kind of thing makes a huge difference. My commute is just over 2 miles, but my mileage sucks. There are 8 lights which I could potentially be stopped at. 5 of those lights are side streets so they're usually green, but if you hit one of those, you're screwed because you're almost certainly going to have to stop at the major ones. Time wise, it's about the same...8 minutes or less (about >the length of Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven"). A dream commute, for >sure! I never get to hear a whole Dead tune on my commute. The problem with that short of the commute though is that I really have to >keep an eye on the engine oil quality. Condensation from combustion get's >into the oil and contributes to oil sludge. The engine rarely has the >opportunity to reach a high enough temperature to evoporate-off the >condensation. Most of the year, the engine's hot enough just sitting in the parking lot for condensation not to be too much of a worry. Synthetic oil seems to help some.>
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Dave Head 19 April 2005 16:04:16 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:44:35 -0700, L Sternn <lincolnfs@hm.net> wrote: On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:05:01 GMT, Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> wrote:> However, the past few years I haven't needed to drive >>>nearly as much...probably 10K or so a year these days.>> Its hard to imagine only doing 10K. Its 17 miles to work and 17 back, > You thought the return trip might be shorter? In Indianapolis, it was 7 miles to work and 6 back. It made sense to go down Washington Street and get on I 465 on the way to work because it involved all right turns except 1, and you can turn right on red. Going back, to gain the interstate would have involved a couple of left turns during a time of increased traffic. It was simpler to go straight down 21st st for about 4 miles, turn right on German Church and go 2 miles to get home. and 48>>weeks of that a year is 8,160 miles.> It's fairly easy for me to imagine, especially considering I've>averaged just about 8300 miles a year for the past 3 years. It's 2 miles to work, but I come home for lunch fairly often. I'm jealous. In our small town of Fostoria, Ohio when I was growing up, Dad was able to do lunch by driving clear across town. There just wasn't any traffic to speak of, and it just wasn't that far. We kids came home from school, too, for that meal. I mean, everything was close to everything there, its just that you had to drive someplace else to buy unusual stuff. I remember having to drive to Toledo for valve springs for my Jeep. That's only 2,250 miles. My gawd, I wonder how I manage to rack up>all those other miles. While having fun, maybe? Work isn't the focus of life! Gotta go to the beach sometime... Dave Head
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Scott en Aztln 19 April 2005 18:14:39 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:50:44 -0700, L Sternn <lincolnfs@hm.net> wrote: My commute is 4 miles taking the main roads...5 miles taking the back roads >>(one way). Interestingly, I averge about 3-4 MPG better fuel mileage going >>the back way (only one light and little traffic) compared to 5 lights and >>more stopping.> That kind of thing makes a huge difference. My commute is just over>2 miles, but my mileage sucks. No wonder - that commute is so short, your engine doesn't even get fully warmed up! If I lived so close to work, I'd ride my bike or walk rather than abuse my car like that... -- Sloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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Alex Rodriguez 19 April 2005 23:34:32 [ permanent link ]
	In article <o6b2615hlbuqtgvufmda0uvenie1o0mnkh@4ax.com>, rally2xs@att.net says... How 'bout y'all? I'm probably in the 500K range. I use to drive alot in the past. For the past few years my average yearly mileage is around 7k per year. ------------- Alex
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James C. Reeves 20 April 2005 02:50:33 [ permanent link ]
	Iron Butterfly's In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida is ~17 minutes long. Part 1 in the morning...part 2 in the evening. Perfect! "Dave Head" <rally2xs@att.net> wrote in message news:lst8615lpq2k53sn5f9jr5dsj6n73q7ae8@4ax.com...> On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:44:14 -0400, "James C. Reeves" > <jcnospam@nospam.com>> wrote:> My commute is 4 miles taking the main roads...5 miles taking the back >>roads>>(one way). Interestingly, I averge about 3-4 MPG better fuel mileage >>going>>the back way (only one light and little traffic) compared to 5 lights and>>more stopping. Time wise, it's about the same...8 minutes or less (about>>the length of Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven"). A dream commute, for>>sure!> Woo hoo! That's great. Just doesn't leave quite enough time for the long> version of Inna Gadda Da Vida, tho - maybe just queue up the drum solo!!!> The problem with that short of the commute though is that I really have to>>keep an eye on the engine oil quality. Condensation from combustion get's>>into the oil and contributes to oil sludge. The engine rarely has the>>opportunity to reach a high enough temperature to evoporate-off the>>condensation. Synthetic oil seems to help some.> Sounds like you're on top of it - and its a small price to pay for having > such> a pristine situation.> Dave Head>>
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L Sternn 20 April 2005 05:18:53 [ permanent link ]
	On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:04:16 GMT, Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> wrote: That's only 2,250 miles. My gawd, I wonder how I manage to rack up>>all those other miles.> While having fun, maybe? Work isn't the focus of life! Gotta go to the beach>sometime... Good point - I did go to the beach a couple weekends ago - about 350 miles each way....but we didn't take my car.
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Allen Seth Dunn 20 April 2005 18:00:47 [ permanent link ]
	"Scott en Aztlбn" <slothkills@NOyahooSPAM.com> wrote in message news:vc4a61pd4sioromnhe89pe5o2e2gmba7sr@4ax.com...> On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:50:44 -0700, L Sternn <lincolnfs@hm.net> wrote:> My commute is 4 miles taking the main roads...5 miles taking the back >>>roads>>>(one way). Interestingly, I averge about 3-4 MPG better fuel mileage >>>going>>>the back way (only one light and little traffic) compared to 5 lights and>>>more stopping.>> That kind of thing makes a huge difference. My commute is just over>>2 miles, but my mileage sucks.> No wonder - that commute is so short, your engine doesn't even get> fully warmed up!> If I lived so close to work, I'd ride my bike or walk rather than> abuse my car like that... Same here, at least for when it wasn't precipitating anyway. -- > Sloth Kills!> http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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Arif Khokar 22 April 2005 22:21:57 [ permanent link ]
	Dave Head wrote:>>>>I figure I have over 1 million miles of driving experience. 223rem wrote:>>>And after 1 million miles, you're still an LLB? Arif Khokar <akhokar1234@wvu.edu> wrote:>>Miles in the left lane don't count ;) Dave Head wrote:> <OT Stuff Deleted> Can't take the heat, can you? So, how many miles have you driven? How many miles a year are you doing now? http://groups.google.com. I'm sure that I've answered those 2 questions sometime in the past.
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Arif Khokar 22 April 2005 22:21:57 [ permanent link ]
	Dave Head wrote:>>>>I figure I have over 1 million miles of driving experience. 223rem wrote:>>>And after 1 million miles, you're still an LLB? Arif Khokar <akhokar1234@wvu.edu> wrote:>>Miles in the left lane don't count ;) Dave Head wrote:> <OT Stuff Deleted> Can't take the heat, can you? So, how many miles have you driven? How many miles a year are you doing now? http://groups.google.com. I'm sure that I've answered those 2 questions sometime in the past.
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L Sternn 23 April 2005 01:47:31 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:15:20 GMT, Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> wrote: On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 02:40:26 GMT, Arif Khokar <akhokar1234@wvu.edu> wrote:> 223rem wrote:>>> Dave Head wrote:>> I figure I have over 1 million miles of driving experience.>> And after 1 million miles, you're still an LLB?>> <OT Stuff Deleted>> So, how many miles have you driven? How many miles a year are you doing now?> How many miles you've driven is OT if you're still a LLB. DPH
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