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Re: LIDAR Trial this Week
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	In article <1112555407.344173.279190@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, ksternberg1@yahoo.com wrote: I live in Massachusetts and got stopped for speeding on a major highway> where the speed trap was suddenly set to 30 mph. The trooper used a> LIDAR unit and I'm contesting it. At least I'm going for a judicial> hearing, which is the end of this week.> I'm impressed with the strategy in the e-book, "Case Dismissed." Has> anyone in a similar situation used this in their case and how did the> case turn out?> Thank you. I don't know about the book, but I can tell you how different National Motorists Association members did without it. Ivan
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Fear 4 April 2005 00:13:48 [ permanent link ]
	i live in mass and my detector has gone off a bunch of times with cops zapping me with laser (lidar) which highway were you on? 91? 90? i actually almost crapped my pants today as i was driving on the Garden State Parkway in new jersey this morning and my detector went off full steam at laser.. luckily i dont think i was going fast enough over the limit for him to go after me cause from what i hear unless you have a laser jammer.. once your radar detector has picked up that you've been hit with laser its already too late. goodluck on the case.. tell us how it turns out. <ksternberg1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1112555407.344173.279190@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...>I live in Massachusetts and got stopped for speeding on a major highway> where the speed trap was suddenly set to 30 mph. The trooper used a> LIDAR unit and I'm contesting it. At least I'm going for a judicial> hearing, which is the end of this week.> I'm impressed with the strategy in the e-book, "Case Dismissed." Has> anyone in a similar situation used this in their case and how did the> case turn out?> Thank you.>
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Ivan 4 April 2005 15:34:30 [ permanent link ]
	In article <1112586948.933945.39470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, ksternberg1@yahoo.com wrote: Hmm. Too bad. Do you think a district court judge in Mass. or the state> police prosecutor would be aware of this newer case? Hm. Does your wonderful e-book have all the answers?
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Ivan 4 April 2005 16:39:25 [ permanent link ]
	In article <1112616545.504524.165040@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, ksternberg1@yahoo.com wrote: As a matter of fact, it does. More so than you, apparently. Unless> you're just being coy, you devil, you. I'm being straight forward. One of the benefits of NMA membership is personalized ticket fighting advice. Otherwise don't expect much for free...
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Guest 4 April 2005 19:14:42 [ permanent link ]
	In article <1112622513.076702.197360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, ksternberg1@yahoo.com wrote: It's not free. You must pay for the book, just as you must pay for> membership in the NMA. OK - then you're all set.
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Fear 5 April 2005 02:13:36 [ permanent link ]
	It's not free. You must pay for the book, just as you must pay for> membership in the NMA. unless you borrow it off peer to peer
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Fear 5 April 2005 02:14:43 [ permanent link ]
	Hmm. Too bad. Do you think a district court judge in Mass. or the state> police prosecutor would be aware of this newer case? yea i'm sure all the courts are up to date specially since they have been using lidar for quite a while now. if i were you i'd try that strategy in your book.. it can't hurt.
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223rem 6 April 2005 02:23:06 [ permanent link ]
	Ivan wrote:> In article <1112586948.933945.39470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,> ksternberg1@yahoo.com wrote:> Hmm. Too bad. Do you think a district court judge in Mass. or the state>>police prosecutor would be aware of this newer case?> Hm. Does your wonderful e-book have all the answers? The ebook in question and the Nat. Mot. Assoc. offer conflicting advice on several issues. For example, the ebook strongly advises against a jury trial while NMA advises that you should request a jury trial. I myself think that the ebook is right--you are asking for trouble is you ask for a jury trial.
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Ivan 6 April 2005 02:57:38 [ permanent link ]
	In article <edE4e.21260$FD1.19336@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>, 223rem <223rem@sbcglobal.com> wrote: Ivan wrote:> > In article <1112586948.933945.39470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,> > ksternberg1@yahoo.com wrote:> > Hmm. Too bad. Do you think a district court judge in Mass. or the state> >>police prosecutor would be aware of this newer case?> > Hm. Does your wonderful e-book have all the answers?> The ebook in question and the Nat. Mot. Assoc. offer conflicting> advice on several issues.> For example, the ebook strongly advises against a jury trial while> NMA advises that you should request a jury trial.> I myself think that the ebook is right--you are asking for trouble> is you ask for a jury trial. You're right, here lies the difference - but: NMA does NOT advise that you should request a jury trial in Massachusetts, where this particular violations occurred, because you can't get one. And that is the rub: while NMA maintains a network of state chapter coordinators, activists a volunteers, a book offers one generic advice for all the states.
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223rem 6 April 2005 05:54:16 [ permanent link ]
	Ivan wrote: You're right, here lies the difference - but: NMA does NOT advise that > you should request a jury trial in Massachusetts, where this particular > violations occurred, because you can't get one. Well, no. I paid for 'instant access' to some of the info on NMA web site and they specifically state that if you can get a jury trial you should ask for one. IMO this is asking for trouble -- you're pissing off the prosecutor, the judge, etc. And that is the rub: while NMA maintains a network of state chapter > coordinators, activists a volunteers, a book offers one generic advice > for all the states. True, but I have the relevant case law for Indiana. I'll try it in court tomorrow, and I'll let the group know how it worked.
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Big Bill 6 April 2005 07:13:01 [ permanent link ]
	On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:23:06 GMT, 223rem <223rem@sbcglobal.com> wrote: Ivan wrote:>> In article <1112586948.933945.39470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,>> ksternberg1@yahoo.com wrote:>> Hmm. Too bad. Do you think a district court judge in Mass. or the state>>>police prosecutor would be aware of this newer case?>> Hm. Does your wonderful e-book have all the answers?> The ebook in question and the Nat. Mot. Assoc. offer conflicting>advice on several issues.> For example, the ebook strongly advises against a jury trial while>NMA advises that you should request a jury trial.>I myself think that the ebook is right--you are asking for trouble>is you ask for a jury trial. I have a few lawyer friends. They all say, on a minor thing like a traffic citation, there are basically two appeals that can be used: law, and emotion. If you're going to argue the law, ask for a jury. If you're going to argue emotion, forget the jury. For such minor things as traffic citations, most jurors will feel that theu are being wasted on such things, and will have little pity on what they will see as a whining loser. Their view is, if you did it and are just trrying to cry your way out, convict. However, if you can articulate your way through the actual law, and at least show that you thought you were right, they will usually let you off. Interesting. -- Bill Funk Change "g" to "a"
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