Here is the window sticker.>

http://webpages.cha­rter.net/kilowatt/Wi­ndow%20Sticker.htm>

I gave 22,540 + sales tax.>

Here is the window sticker.>

You did shitty. It's a Ford.>

*rimshot*

And what kinda car do you own? A Rice Burner? We buy American made>cars in America. I lost my job because people like you stopped buying>American Made. I support myself and my country's jobs. So buy American.

So Hondas are OK?

"moneymouth" <teresamouth@yahoo.­com> wrote in message>news:111090­3628.279037.46130@l4­1g2000cwc.googlegrou­ps.com...>> And what kinda car do you own? A Rice Burner? We buy American made>> cars in America. I lost my job because people like you stopped buying>> American Made. I support myself and my country's jobs. So buy American.>

Many (even most) of the components in modern "American" cars are not>american made, or American designed. The things that are american made (some>foreign cars) all the money goes back overseas.

20/25 MPG? That's not bad at all, especially for a vehicle that is> relatively tall. From what I hear those little 6 banger Escapes are> reasonable quick too.>

And what kinda car do you own? A Rice Burner?

We buy American made cars in America.

I lost my job because people like you stopped buying>American Made.

How about 31 Highway and 36 City? Yup, gets better mileage in the City,

you buy the hybrid version. That's because slow speed driving is electric> only. -Dave

All those workers are forced to send their paychecks overseas? I> didn't know that.

Okay, higher city makes sense but where is the extra 6 highway MPG coming> from? Does the hybrid version have a smaller motor? If that is the case> perhaps taht was a big part of the reason to not buy the hybrid version.

"Big Bill" <bill@pipping.com> wrote in message>news:vvme31­t22b9ja9k2pai6cg5in7­m4oi2d70@4ax.com...>­> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:27:23 -0500, "Cory Dunkle" <cdnews@comcast.net­>>> wrote:>>

You seem to have missed the point entirely...

Do you think the executives at Toyota or Honda give all the profits to the>assembly line workers who put the foreign parts together at an American>factory? Heck no, all the profits go overseas to the company. The executive>and engineers make the big bucks, and other funds are re-invested in the>company. Obviously payroll expenses for assembly line workers in America go>to those workers. So sure some foreign cars are assembled by Americans>working in America [with foreign parts, made in various foreign countries],>but all the profits from selling that car go overseas (the foreign company>overseas and the people working for the company overseas).>

Similar deal for American brands... Most of the work is outsourced to other>countries, where labor is cheaper. The cars may be assembled here (not>always the case) but most of the parts are either foreign of another brand>(corporate alliances) or are made/assembled in foreign countries by foreign>workers. So maybe the car is assembled in America, but it certainly is not>_made_ in America. Much (most?) of the labor is done overseas, taking jobs>from the American market. The upside is that the profits go to an American>company and American executives and engineers (mostly, again the whole>foreign outsourcing and corporate alliance thing). The downside of the>upside, so to speak, is that the profits are reinvested in foreign labor.>This creates more jobs, or even better jobs, in foreign countries where>labor is cheaper, but does not help the American economy.>

I apologize, Bill, if I was unclear in my original post. I hope this>clarifies it a bit for you.

Cory>

Okay, higher city makes sense but where is the extra 6 highway MPG coming> from? Does the hybrid version have a smaller motor? If that is the case> perhaps taht was a big part of the reason to not buy the hybrid version.>

You have ignored the rest of my post though... What about the initial cost> of the hybrid vs the money saved in fuel? When does it pay for itself in> fuel savings? How long until the batteries must be replaced (7-10 years> seems to be what they are estimated to last) and how much do they cost to> replace (I've read $5,000-$10,000 for various models of hybrids)? After

hybrid feature has paid for itself, will it save enough money over the

"Dave C." <noway@nohow.not> wrote in message>news:w4LZd.­11866$cN6.8478@newsr­ead1.news.pas.earthl­ink.net...>> >

Okay, higher city makes sense but where is the extra 6 highway MPG coming>from? Does the hybrid version have a smaller motor? If that is the case>perhaps taht was a big part of the reason to not buy the hybrid version.

You have ignored the rest of my post though... What about the initial cost>of the hybrid vs the money saved in fuel? When does it pay for itself in>fuel savings? How long until the batteries must be replaced (7-10 years>seems to be what they are estimated to last) and how much do they cost to>replace (I've read $5,000-$10,000 for various models of hybrids)? After the>hybrid feature has paid for itself, will it save enough money over the rest>of the years before the batteries need to be replaced to pay for battery>replacement­ and still save you money? I have a feeling it probably does not>save that much money unless perhaps you are a cab driver in the city, and>that would be assuming the batteries would alst 7-10 years with such heavy>usage (constant discharge/charge).>­

Cory