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Conviction of man who slammed on brakes upheld

John F. Carr 26 February 2005 23:07:24
 
On usenet one reads a lot of assertions that a rear end collision is
always the fault of the rear driver. Here is the Vermont Supreme
Court's decision in a case where the guy who slammed on his brakes
was convicted of grossly negligent driving:

<http://dol.state.v­t.us/gopher_root3/su­pct/current/2003-329­.eo>

Paragraphs 2-6 summarize the facts of the case: the defendant was
driving 15 MPH under the speed limit and apparently took offense
when a motorcycle wanted to pass.

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C.H. 27 February 2005 02:07:54 [ permanent link ]
 On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:32:25 -0800, Garth Almgren wrote:
Around 2/26/2005 12:05 PM, Aunt Judy (Pride of Diarrhea) > <http://tinyurl.com­/65nqz> wrote:>> All you gotta do is say a dog ran across the road.>
Except that you'll just have perjured yourself. Maybe you wouldn't have > a problem with that, but I would.

A spam script cannot perjure itself. Mental competence is prerequisite for
perjury and a computer script does not possess such competence.

Chris
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Scott en Aztln 27 February 2005 20:34:21 [ permanent link ]
 On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 02:12:54 -0500, "Magnulus"
<magnulus@bellsouth­.net> wrote:
You have to be nuts to drive one of these things. My dad had a business>aquaintanc­e who bought a Harley. A co-worker jokingly told this guy "don't>get yourself killed". He was killed while riding the bike home the very>same day.

"Ride Hard, Die Free."

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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend 27 February 2005 23:17:41 [ permanent link ]
 
Garth Almgren wrote:> Around 2/26/2005 12:05 PM, Aunt Judy (Pride of Diarrhea)> >
Got that right.> > All you gotta do is say a dog ran across the road.>
Except that you'll just have perjured yourself. Maybe you wouldn't
have> a problem with that, but I would.>

Hey dood. We got a president who lied us into a war against a
defenseless nation so don't preach to me about honesty.

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David W. Poole 28 February 2005 02:50:39 [ permanent link ]
 On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 14:07:54 -0800, "C.H." <trapspam@trapspam.­org> was
understood to have stated the following:
A spam script cannot perjure itself. Mental competence is prerequisite for>perjury and a computer script does not possess such competence.

Hell, even Eliza, as archaic as it is, produced more intelligent
dialogs than the script LBMHBF does.


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David W. Poole 28 February 2005 02:50:41 [ permanent link ]
 On 27 Feb 2005 11:17:41 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
<xeton2001@yahoo.co­m> was understood to have stated the following:
Hey dood. We got a president who lied us into a war against a>defenseless nation so don't preach to me about honesty.

Actually, someone needs to "teach" you about honesty, since you
obviously don't know what it is.

By the way, Bush didn't lie us into war, no matter how much you'd like
to believe he did.

And thank God we've got such a nice lady like Laura Bush for first
lady. Beats the hell out of that sack of crap the DNC offered up last
year.


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Larry Bud 28 February 2005 04:08:11 [ permanent link ]
 
And thank God we've got such a nice lady like Laura Bush for first> lady. Beats the hell out of that sack of crap the DNC offered up last> year.

You have to admit, it would have been fun to watch the comedians beat
up on Teresa Heinz [Kerry] for 4 years...

BTW, did you notice she dropped the "Kerry" from her moniker now that
the election is over!?

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David W. Poole 28 February 2005 12:46:35 [ permanent link ]
 On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:08:57 -0500, "Allen Seth Dunn"
<i_6695@yahoo.com> was understood to have stated the following:
Actually, in my driving experience, Harley-riding motorcyclists are actually >probably the safest group of motorcyclists on the road. From my visual >observations while driving, they seem to be the most likely to wear proper >safety gear including helmets and leather jackets, and a sturdy pair of blue >jeans. The worst in my experience, are the motorcyclists who ride ricers. A >lot of the time, they won't wear helmets and wear shorts and a t-shirt. >Hell, lose control in a sharp turn, fall off your bike and eat asphalt while >riding with shorts and a t-shirt, and you'll likely be skinned alive. At >least the majority of Harley riders tend to wear proper attire, so that >while they break a few bones in a motorcycle accident, they are more likely >to be still alive as the helmet will help protect them from cracking their >skull and the leather and jeans will protect them if they were to fall off >their bike and slide along the asphalt for a short period.

Harley riders also tend to ride a lot slower than the ricers, too.
That observation based on the fact that I tend to drive between the
two speeds, as most Harleys I see I'm looking at in the rear view, and
most ricers I'm looking at through the windshield. Regardless of which
side of the car they are on, the distance between them and I is
increasing sans obstructions. :-)­


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Magnulus 28 February 2005 17:38:11 [ permanent link ]
 My great grandfather drove a Harley motorcycle. This was way before they
even had helmets, but he wore goggles and a leather cap. He also had a
sidecar, something you don't really see now days. My grandfather wasn't
really the "biker" type in the sense that he was good natured and had
nothing to prove to anybody. I think he drove a bike because during the
depression it was a cheap way to get around.

My uncle, OTOH, does have a motorcycle, but he rarely drives it now days.
OTOH, he was more what people think of as a "biker". He had a few spills in
his time was definitely into doing some dangerous stuff. I don't remember
if he ever wore a helmet; I doubt it. My aunt married him and he changed
alot over the years.


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C.H. 1 March 2005 22:41:21 [ permanent link ]
 On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 08:38:11 -0500, Magnulus wrote:

[ramble...]

And your point is?

Chris
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Nate Nagel 2 March 2005 04:23:53 [ permanent link ]
 Old Wolf wrote:
I doubt we'll be seeing any honesty from your quarters in the near> future.> And if you believe everything you see on CNN, god help you.>

Well, it's better than Fox News at least.

nate

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Arif Khokar 2 March 2005 05:03:57 [ permanent link ]
 Nate Nagel wrote:
Old Wolf wrote:
I doubt we'll be seeing any honesty from your quarters in the near>> future.>> And if you believe everything you see on CNN, god help you.
Well, it's better than Fox News at least.

I prefer http://news.bbc.co.­uk myself.
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RobW 2 March 2005 10:15:23 [ permanent link ]
 
Nate Nagel wrote:> Old Wolf wrote:>
I doubt we'll be seeing any honesty from your quarters in the near> > future.> > And if you believe everything you see on CNN, god help you.> >
Well, it's better than Fox News at least.>
nate>
--> replace "fly" with "com" to reply.> http://home.comcast­.net/~njnagel

I get all my news from "the Daily Show".

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John David Galt 2 March 2005 15:59:20 [ permanent link ]
 RobW wrote:> The guy in the car DELIBERATELY tried to BLOCK the guy on the bike.> A True Menace. And all he's charged with is "operating a motor vehicle> in a grossly negligent manner with serious injury resulting", which> will likely cost him a fine and his license, maybe some time... I hope> they threw the book at him.> Did you read the thing? I like how in the written statement, the story> changes. The fool was "worried" the bike didn't have room to pass so> blocked the biker for the biker's own safety. With friends like> these...

Gee, sounds just like a biker we all know, don't we Brent?
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John F. Carr 2 March 2005 16:36:54 [ permanent link ]
 In article <1109744039.093284.­67210@o13g2000cwo.go­oglegroups.com>,
RobW <greenflag@mgci.com­> wrote:>
If I shoot a gun at someone "to prevent him from passing", and I hit>him, resulting in serious injury, am I guilty of attempted murder,>attempted manslaughter, or what?>
Is there such a charge as "operating a firearm in a grossly negligent>manner with serious injury resulting"?

Pointing a gun at somebody to scare him is assault with a deadly weapon.
A reckless act causing bodily harm is assault and battery.
A reckless act causing death is manslaughter (not murder).

The precise names of the crimes depend on the state. For example,
"assault with a deadly weapon" could be "aggravated assault" and
"manslaughter" could be "fourth degree homicide."

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John Harlow 2 March 2005 20:32:57 [ permanent link ]
 
I get all my news from "the Daily Show".

As do I. Excellent!



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John David Galt 3 March 2005 06:42:02 [ permanent link ]
 RobW wrote:> I get all my news from "the Daily Show".

That explains it!
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Mike Z . Helm 5 March 2005 22:03:20 [ permanent link ]
 On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 01:03:57 GMT, Arif Khokar <akhokar1234@wvu.ed­u>
Nate Nagel wrote:>
Old Wolf wrote:>
I doubt we'll be seeing any honesty from your quarters in the near>>> future.>>> And if you believe everything you see on CNN, god help you.>
Well, it's better than Fox News at least.>
I prefer http://news.bbc.co.­uk myself.

So you like the abridged and condensed version.


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