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Universal Soldier 25 February 2005 06:09:18
 I'm a strong supporter of the free speech, but I think that insulting
anti-Bush car stickers are illegal, because they are meant to enrage other
motorists, regardless of their political views, thereby increasing the
chances of road rage. There must be laws about public endangerment and
disturbance of peace that can be applied here.

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Maddox 25 February 2005 06:17:20 permanent link ]
 
"Universal Soldier" <dood@wheres.my.car­> wrote in message
news:18492221.e99Fd­VmcM8@cox.cox.net...­> I'm a strong supporter of the free speech, but I think that insulting> anti-Bush car stickers are illegal, because they are meant to enrage other> motorists, regardless of their political views, thereby increasing the> chances of road rage. There must be laws about public endangerment and> disturbance of peace that can be applied here.>
--> "Ad hominem would imply that there's no basis for the things people are> saying about you. Based on your posts, I don't think that that applies."> -- Nate Nagel, 2005

Then the same would apply to "Proud to be a Republican."


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Sid9 25 February 2005 06:29:50 permanent link ]
 Universal Soldier wrote:> I'm a strong supporter of the free speech, but I think that insulting> anti-Bush car stickers are illegal, because they are meant to enrage> other motorists, regardless of their political views, thereby> increasing the chances of road rage. There must be laws about public> endangerment and disturbance of peace that can be applied here.

It's called free speech.
It's guaranteed by the US Constitution.
It's spelled out in the "Bill of Rights"

It's the foundation of our liberties.....and you want to give up the right
of dissent?

You are a sheep. A lemming.

You would give up what many Americans died for.


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Japm 25 February 2005 06:34:10 permanent link ]
 
"Maddox" <nospam2@nycap.rr.c­om> wrote in message
news:QUvTd.38464$H0­5.25793@twister.nyro­c.rr.com...>
"Universal Soldier" <dood@wheres.my.car­> wrote in message> news:18492221.e99Fd­VmcM8@cox.cox.net...­>> I'm a strong supporter of the free speech, but I think that insulting>> anti-Bush car stickers are illegal, because they are meant to enrage >> other>> motorists, regardless of their political views, thereby increasing the>> chances of road rage. There must be laws about public endangerment and>> disturbance of peace that can be applied here.>>
-->> "Ad hominem would imply that there's no basis for the things people are>> saying about you. Based on your posts, I don't think that that applies.">> -- Nate Nagel, 2005>
Then the same would apply to "Proud to be a Republican.">

Or _any_ bumper sticker that announced political, moral, or religious
beliefs.

Someone wrote a letter to the editor in my area to complain about the number
of "John Kerry for president" bumper stickers still around town. It seems
that not peeling the JK stickers off is a provocative gesture as it's a
deliberate jab at Bush. What a thing to get worked up about (and they say
libs are overly sensitive).


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Foxtrot 25 February 2005 06:34:37 permanent link ]
 Universal Soldier <dood@wheres.my.car­> wrote:
I'm a strong supporter of the free speech, but I think that insulting>anti-Bush­ car stickers are illegal, because they are meant to enrage other>motorists, regardless of their political views, thereby increasing the>chances of road rage. There must be laws about public endangerment and>disturbance of peace that can be applied here.

Do what I do. Get in the lane ahead of them, then hork a
big snotwad out your sunroof. With a little practice, you
can see their angry facial reactions in your rearview mirror
after the blob hits their windshield.

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Guest 25 February 2005 06:47:22 permanent link ]
 Last time I checked, we still had a First Amendment to the
Constitution:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the FREEDOM OF
SPEECH, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

In addition, I don't believe anyone has a constitutional right to never
be offended.

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A Brick in the Wall 25 February 2005 06:55:49 permanent link ]
 
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote in message
news:sa3t119m9dh8u7­kr2t9kio4letr0gr5qc7­@4ax.com...> Universal Soldier <dood@wheres.my.car­> wrote:>
I'm a strong supporter of the free speech, but I think that insulting>>anti-Bus­h car stickers are illegal, because they are meant to enrage other>>motorists, regardless of their political views, thereby increasing the>>chances of road rage. There must be laws about public endangerment and>>disturbance of peace that can be applied here.>
Do what I do. Get in the lane ahead of them, then hork a> big snotwad out your sunroof. With a little practice, you> can see their angry facial reactions in your rearview mirror> after the blob hits their windshield.>

Gee - that's what I'd like to do to your car!


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James C. Reeves 25 February 2005 07:15:51 permanent link ]
 My my, one is so conflicted.

First you say:

" I'm a strong supporter of the free speech..."

Then you say:

"...but I think that insulting anti-Bush car stickers are illegal,
because they are meant to enrage other motorists,
regardless of their political views, thereby increasing the
chances of road rage."

My, what is one to do? Have free speech? Or, muffle it for
the sake of the general good? After all, we don't want some
people to make other people angry by allowing free
expression, now do we?

So you say:

" There must be laws about public endangerment and
disturbance of peace that can be applied here."

No, it's not applicable. Perhaps you need to review the
bill of rights for the answer (if you've ever read it). Come
back after you've done your homework with the right
answer.

Just an aside. I see both Kerry and Bush stickers still out
there. I see both anti-Bush and anti-Kerry stickers as
well. So what? If that silly stuff angers some people, those
people need to get a life!




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John 25 February 2005 07:21:56 permanent link ]
 The civil libertarians here have it right.

Obviously, it's absurd to imply that one kind of partisan bumper
sticker is more conducive to "road rage" (and therefore more
legitimately censored) than another.

It we're going to get rid of bumper stickers insulting Bush, let's also
censor the pro-choice, and the pro-life, and the pro-environment and
anti-environment bumper stickers, too. And the Christian bumper
stickers and the anti-Christian ones ...

As Americans, we all have the constitutional right to drive each other
nuts with our political views. It's one thing that makes America
different from Saudi Arabia or the old USSR. Deal with it.

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Paul 25 February 2005 07:56:42 permanent link ]
 
"John" <fernbach2000@yahoo­.com> wrote in message
news:1109301716.049­472.209030@g14g2000c­wa.googlegroups.com.­..
It we're going to get rid of bumper stickers insulting Bush, let's
also> censor the pro-choice, and the pro-life, and the pro-environment and> anti-environment bumper stickers, too. And the Christian bumper> stickers and the anti-Christian ones ...

Another way to look at it: if we are going to outlaw a bumper sticker
that offends *anyone,* then we would have to outlaw *all* bumper
stickers as every bumper sticker is going to offend someone. And the
slippery slope will get a little steeper....




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Roedy Green 25 February 2005 07:58:26 permanent link ]
 On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:09:18 -0800, Universal Soldier
<dood@wheres.my.car­> wrote or quoted :
I'm a strong supporter of the free speech, but I think that insulting>anti-Bush­ car stickers are illegal

by that reasoning surely anti-Kerry or any other controversial topic
is dangerous.

Surely free speech is to valuable to squelch for such an reason --
especially in a country that allows loaded guns is bars for far less
benefit.


"Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor
of Hitler nor of Mussolini."
~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
on Bush's genocide in the Iraq war. 2004-11-28
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
See http://mindprod.com­/iraq.html photos of Bush's war crimes
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ZenIsWhen 25 February 2005 08:29:38 permanent link ]
 "Universal Soldier" <dood@wheres.my.car­> wrote in message
news:18492221.e99Fd­VmcM8@cox.cox.net...­> I'm a strong supporter of the free speech, but I think that insulting> anti-Bush car stickers are illegal, because they are meant to enrage other> motorists, regardless of their political views, thereby increasing the> chances of road rage. There must be laws about public endangerment and> disturbance of peace that can be applied here.

??????
Then Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulteer, James Kennedy, Newt Gingrich and other
such Riech wing idiots should, also, be deemed illegal - because it seems
like all they want to do is enrage others.




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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend 25 February 2005 08:42:34 permanent link ]
 
Universal Soldier wrote:> I'm a strong supporter of the free speech, but I think that insulting> anti-Bush car stickers are illegal, because they are meant to enrage
other> motorists, regardless of their political views, thereby increasing
chances of road rage. There must be laws about public endangerment
disturbance of peace that can be applied here.

Hey dood. That is the worst troll post i ever seed.

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Bernard farquart 25 February 2005 10:18:16 permanent link ]
 
"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.co­m> wrote in message
news:1109306554.313­574.326700@z14g2000c­wz.googlegroups.com.­..>
Hey dood. That is the worst troll post i ever seed.>

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Oh my god, the irony!

Bernard


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©Hri§Tçræm® 25 February 2005 15:10:21 permanent link ]
 
I'm a strong supporter of the free speech, but I think that insulting> anti-Bush car stickers are illegal, because they are meant to enrage other> motorists, regardless of their political views, thereby increasing the> chances of road rage. There must be laws about public endangerment and> disturbance of peace that can be applied here.>
Republicans have no control over their own minds. They become enraged by
simply reading something they don't like. Then they commit crimes and blame
the words for their criminalities. This makes them the most dangerous of all
peoples of the world.

They need to be rounded up and sterilized, placed in concentration camps, or
some other protective environment before they commit crimes on a massive scale.
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©Hri§Tçræm® 25 February 2005 15:13:55 permanent link ]
 
Universal Soldier <dood@wheres.my.car­> wrote:>
I'm a strong supporter of the free speech, but I think that insulting> >anti-Bush car stickers are illegal, because they are meant to enrage other> >motorists, regardless of their political views, thereby increasing the> >chances of road rage. There must be laws about public endangerment and> >disturbance of peace that can be applied here.>
Do what I do. Get in the lane ahead of them, then hork a > big snotwad out your sunroof. With a little practice, you > can see their angry facial reactions in your rearview mirror > after the blob hits their windshield. >
Thanks for admitting in public that you have broken the following laws:

Spitting in public
Littering
Reckless endangerment
Assault with intent to commit bodily harm
Battery

Republicans are dangerous. Please be careful democrats!
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©hri§tÇræm®
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Xeton2001IsAMoron 20 dwpj65 26 February 2005 01:09:18 permanent link ]
 "i ever seed?" Did you even make it past 3rd grade, retard?

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ZenIsWhen 26 February 2005 01:55:23 permanent link ]
 <©hri§tÇræm®> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c88a84ad6­f582c798a76e@text.gi­ganews.com...> > Universal Soldier <dood@wheres.my.car­> wrote:> >
I'm a strong supporter of the free speech, but I think that insulting> > >anti-Bush car stickers are illegal, because they are meant to enrage
other> > >motorists, regardless of their political views, thereby increasing the> > >chances of road rage. There must be laws about public endangerment and> > >disturbance of peace that can be applied here.> >
Do what I do. Get in the lane ahead of them, then hork a> > big snotwad out your sunroof. With a little practice, you> > can see their angry facial reactions in your rearview mirror> > after the blob hits their windshield.> >
Thanks for admitting in public that you have broken the following laws:>
Spitting in public> Littering> Reckless endangerment> Assault with intent to commit bodily harm> Battery

Not to mention evolution - moving to a much lower species
Republicans are dangerous. Please be careful democrats!> --> ©hri§tÇræm®


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James C. Reeves 26 February 2005 05:17:33 permanent link ]
 
<Xeton2001IsAMoron.­20.dwpj65@spamgourme­t.com> wrote in message
news:1109365758.403­033.256800@f14g2000c­wb.googlegroups.com.­..> "i ever seed?" Did you even make it past 3rd grade, retard?>

No, Judy's car runs on tars too. The rest of us use tires.


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Dtj 26 February 2005 10:21:19 permanent link ]
 On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:29:50 -0500, "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net­> wrote:
Universal Soldier wrote:>> I'm a strong supporter of the free speech, but I think that insulting>> anti-Bush car stickers are illegal, because they are meant to enrage>> other motorists, regardless of their political views, thereby>> increasing the chances of road rage. There must be laws about public>> endangerment and disturbance of peace that can be applied here.>
It's called free speech.>It's guaranteed by the US Constitution.>It's spelled out in the "Bill of Rights">
It's the foundation of our liberties.....and you want to give up the right >of dissent?>
You are a sheep. A lemming.>
You would give up what many Americans died for.

You can't yell fire in a crowded theater, either. There are limits to
free speech. Whether this should or should not be limited is a valid
question. The answer is not so obvious.
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George Grapman 26 February 2005 10:23:58 permanent link ]
 DTJ wrote:> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:29:50 -0500, "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net­> wrote:>
Universal Soldier wrote:>>
I'm a strong supporter of the free speech, but I think that insulting>>>anti-Bu­sh car stickers are illegal, because they are meant to enrage>>>other motorists, regardless of their political views, thereby>>>increasin­g the chances of road rage. There must be laws about public>>>endangerme­nt and disturbance of peace that can be applied here.>>
It's called free speech.>>It's guaranteed by the US Constitution.>>It's­ spelled out in the "Bill of Rights">>
It's the foundation of our liberties.....and you want to give up the right >>of dissent?>>
You are a sheep. A lemming.>>
You would give up what many Americans died for. >
You can't yell fire in a crowded theater, either. There are limits to> free speech. Whether this should or should not be limited is a valid> question. The answer is not so obvious.

Interesting that the original poster only sees a problem with
anti-Bush messages.

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John 26 February 2005 21:49:44 permanent link ]
 Let's have a law against anyone in a crowded theater driving a car
sporting a bumper sticker that yells "Fire."

While we're on the subject of free speech, by the way, do you think
maybe the US government should extend the protections of the Bill of
Rights to Muslim men, also?

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David W. Poole 28 February 2005 03:04:17 permanent link ]
 On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 17:21:59 GMT, Rightard Whitey
<eelder1@tampabay.r­r.com> was understood to have stated the following:
Where can I get one of these stickers. It is my first amendment right to >insult humanzees like Bush.

try http://www.IAmAReta­rdedDimocrat.edu


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Paul 28 February 2005 04:06:47 permanent link ]
 
<©hri§tÇræm®> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c88a77456­dac03b98a76d@text.gi­ganews.com...
Republicans have no control over their own minds.> They become enraged by simply reading> something they don't like. Then they> commit crimes and blame the words for their> criminalities. This makes them the most dangerous of all> peoples of the world.>
They need to be rounded up and sterilized, placed> in concentration camps, or some other protective> environment before they commit crimes on a massive scale.

Spoken like a true fascist.

SIEG PLONK!





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Unisex 28 February 2005 06:40:41 permanent link ]
 FOUR MORE YEARS. <evil laugh>


cliff84373@yahoo.co­.uk wrote:
In the interest of edification only and the education of those who> might live in Republican states, here's a list of some typical> anti-bush bumper stickers:>
Buck Fush!> The French were Right!> Proud to live in a Blue State> Pro-America/Anti-Bu­sh> Trust Him Twice? Shame on us!> No one Died When Clinton Lied> Truth? Yes! / Bush? No!> Bush-Cheney: Weapons of Mass Deception> GW Lies - GIs Die> Bush lied, Americans signed - Bush lied, Americans died.> George W. Bush - How many times will he LIE today?> Bush + Rush=Double the Lies> Bush is a LIAR> Do Bush's Lies make you feel safer? Which ones?> NO WMDs. NO Al-Qaeda Line. Bush's Lies Kill Innocents> What Else is Bush Hiding?> George W. Bush: Ignorant, a Liar, or Just Incompetent?> Investigate BUSH> Bush-speak is truth pollution> George W. Bush: Liar in Chief> Bush Lied, People Died/Jobs Dried/Cronies Ride/Environment Fried> Democracy - Not Theocracy> George W. Bush is Big Brother> Real Conservatives Don't Start Wars> America Deserves Better than Bush> Bush is an idiot and you know it> Dubya is for Dubious> November 2, 2004 - WE ALL LOST> Bush will never by my President.> We're All Wearing the Blue Dress Now> "DISSENT is the highest form of PATRIOTISM"- Thomas Jefferson> Pro-Constitution/An­ti-Bush> More Trees - Less Bush> Truman: The Buck Stops Here/Bush: The Buck Starts Here!> My Grandkids can't afford for me to vote Republican> Outsource Bush> Bush: Taking America to Halliburton in a Handbasket> http://irregulartim­es.com/exprogressive­.html

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David W. Poole 28 February 2005 08:49:40 permanent link ]
 On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:17:33 -0500, "James C. Reeves"
<jcnospam@nospam.co­m> was understood to have stated the following:
<Xeton2001IsAMoron­.20.dwpj65@spamgourm­et.com> wrote in message >news:1109365758.40­3033.256800@f14g2000­cwb.googlegroups.com­...>> "i ever seed?" Did you even make it past 3rd grade, retard?>>
No, Judy's car runs on tars too. The rest of us use tires.

Well, see, Judy buying tars kinda has me curious. As any well-informed
reader of the many quality gover-media skeptic sites out there, Judy
should realize that tars are made by jooz. And as great as Judy's
dislike for jooz is, I would think Judy would prefer to purchase tires
instead of tars. However, most of the tar centers do give out free "My
other vehicle is the NC-1701" bumper stickers if you happened to be
driving a beater.

However, the sites that have the highway fatality rates she likes to
quote from achieve their figures based on "beaters driven on tars"
miles, which may explain her preference for claiming to drive at such
ridiculously slow speeds.

Of course, her preference could also be explained by a burned-out
and/or over-taxed brain.


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Larry Bud 28 February 2005 17:04:46 permanent link ]
 
You can't yell fire in a crowded theater, either. There are limits
free speech. Whether this should or should not be limited is a valid> question. The answer is not so obvious.

Just because there are laws violating free speech such as the "fire"
law doesn't mean limits of free speech are right.

One makes "fire" illegal for supposed safety issues. However, the
proper way to legislate this while upholding the freedom of speech is
to create a law that says IF you yell something that causes panic and
harm to other, you're screwed.

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Dtj 5 March 2005 19:23:06 permanent link ]
 On 28 Feb 2005 05:04:46 -0800, "Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo­.com>
wrote:
You can't yell fire in a crowded theater, either. There are limits>to>> free speech. Whether this should or should not be limited is a valid>> question. The answer is not so obvious.>
Just because there are laws violating free speech such as the "fire">law doesn't mean limits of free speech are right.>
One makes "fire" illegal for supposed safety issues. However, the>proper way to legislate this while upholding the freedom of speech is>to create a law that says IF you yell something that causes panic and>harm to other, you're screwed.

Nice theory, Except we have these things called lawyers.
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