that the man entered the intersection 0.6 seconds after the light> turned red, but got off because the city of Costa Mesa did not give

days' notice prior to beginning to issue the RLC tickets.

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Scott en Aztlбn wrote:> > In a (frustratingly vague) report on the KTLA Morning News, we're> told> > a driver beat a $321 red light camera ticket. It's a little unclear,> > but the most reasonable interpretation of Patricia del Rio's report> is> > that the man entered the intersection 0.6 seconds after the light> > turned red, but got off because the city of Costa Mesa did not give> 30> > days' notice prior to beginning to issue the RLC tickets.>

That's stupid. Why does the city have to give any prior notice. I> would have thought that the yellow light would be sufficient notice for> the red.>

"Furious George" <bugme_69@hotmail.c­om> wrote in message>news:110925­8210.585271.31350@o1­3g2000cwo.googlegrou­ps.com...>

Scott en AztlГЎn wrote:>> In a (frustratingly vague) report on the KTLA Morning News, we're>told>> a driver beat a $321 red light camera ticket. It's a little unclear,>> but the most reasonable interpretation of Patricia del Rio's report>is>> that the man entered the intersection 0.6 seconds after the light>> turned red, but got off because the city of Costa Mesa did not give>30>> days' notice prior to beginning to issue the RLC tickets.>

That's stupid. Why does the city have to give any prior notice. I>would have thought that the yellow light would be sufficient notice for>the red.>

Then you would be wrong, as the yellow light time is shortened when the RLC>is installed.

So you must give notice of the RLC camera being installed so>that the local drivers will know that they have LESS warning of an impending>red light. That way, all the local drivers can LOCK ALL FOUR WHEELS as soon>as the light turns yellow and cause an epidemic of rear-end collisions at>the RLC intersection. See, it's safer to have people die in accidents>caused by red light cameras than it is to stop red light runners by timing>lights properly. Now you know. You're welcome. -Dave>

Is this the case in Costa Mesa?>

Be honest now - no fair just saying it because you dislike RLCs.>

If you don't know, simply admit you don't know.>

If you do know, please tell us how you know.>

Then you would be wrong, as the yellow light time is shortened when the RLC>is installed. So you must give notice of the RLC camera being installed so>that the local drivers will know that they have LESS warning of an impending>red light. That way, all the local drivers can LOCK ALL FOUR WHEELS as soon>as the light turns yellow and cause an epidemic of rear-end collisions at>the RLC intersection. See, it's safer to have people die in accidents>caused by red light cameras than it is to stop red light runners by timing>lights properly. Now you know. You're welcome. -Dave

Is this the case in Costa Mesa?>

Be honest now - no fair just saying it because you dislike RLCs.

If you don't know, simply admit you don't know.>

If you do know, please tell us how you know.

Is Costa Mesa making money off of the red light cameras? If the lights are>timed properly, red light cameras lose money, as they cost more to operate>than the revenue that they generate. So you tell me . . . are the Costa>Mesa RLC intersection traffic signals timed correctly? If the red light>cameras are still operating, then the answer is most likely NO. Otherwise,>they would have been taken down. -Dave>

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:34:33 -0700, Cartlon Shew <cashew@lapaz.com>>­wrote:>

To Dave:>

Haven't you learned by now? Subtlety is lost on the people in this>group. ;)>

To Carlton: Dave was being SARCASTIC. In the future, please step away>from the keyboard the next time your humor detector gors on the blink,>OK?

Because the stated purpose of red light cameras is to discourage red> light running - not catching people.

Red light cameras discourage people from red light running by catching>red light runners.

that the man entered the intersection 0.6 seconds after the light> turned red, but got off because the city of Costa Mesa did not give

days' notice prior to beginning to issue the RLC tickets.

So let me get this straight . . . if a RLC is the direct cause of even one>rear-end collision with injuries, YOU ARE OK WITH THAT??? Just clarifying,>here.

Thank you for this information. From now on, I will be careful when> taking photographs. If my pictures of my friends capture, even> inadvertently, evidence of red-light running, I could cause a rear-end> collision with injuries.>

Yes. If a RLC reduces the number of T-Bone collisions with more severe> injuries by 10 while increasing the number of rear-end collisions with> less severe injuries by one, I AM OK WITH THAT!!!

Red light cameras discourage people from red light running by catching> red light runners.>

At the cost of greatly increasing rear-end collisions and injuries at the> intersections where they are installed. -Dave

So let me get this straight . . . if a RLC is the direct cause of even one>rear-end collision with injuries, YOU ARE OK WITH THAT??? Just clarifying,>here.

To cause a rear-end collision, the RLC doesn't have to do anything except to>EXIST.