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CarGuru > Driving > Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks 3 February 2005 23:26:13
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Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks

Phone-Jockey 3 February 2005 01:18:35
 ted wrote:>
A University of Utah study claims that drivers who use a cell phone will be> 'more impaired than drunken drivers with blood alcohol levels exceeding> 0.08.' The study also says that use will turn a driver who is age 20 into> age 70. Hands-free systems apparently don't help much either as they still> require a driver to 'actively be part of a conversation.'

Just today I observed three vehicles swerving from lanes
and all three drivers were using cell phones. It's getting
ridiculous out there!
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Daniel J. Stern 3 February 2005 03:32:37 [ permanent link ]
 On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, The Blue wrote:
Old people are much more of a danger than cell phones.

Cite?
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Notan 3 February 2005 04:27:48 [ permanent link ]
 The Blue wrote:>
Well the study said cell phones made young driver equivalent of a > senior behind the wheel. That is only while they are on the phone. The > senior is a senior from the start of the trip till finish. So the > senior is a less capable drive for a longer period of time. I have no > problem using my cell phone when I drive. However i use my hand device > and i pay attention to the roads. I think food is much more of > distraction than a cell phone.

Don't kid yourself.

*None of us* are as good as we think we are!

Notan
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Arif Khokar 3 February 2005 04:46:22 [ permanent link ]
 The Blue wrote:

<snip>

Please change the settings in your newsreader so that it will only post
plain text to usenet.
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Daniel J. Stern 3 February 2005 05:08:47 [ permanent link ]
 On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Notan wrote:
Don't kid yourself. *None of us* are as good as we think we are!

None of us _is_ as good as we think we are.

*g*
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Daniel J. Stern 3 February 2005 05:14:15 [ permanent link ]
 On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, The Blue wrote:
Old people are much more of a danger than cell phones.
Cite?
Well the study said cell phones made young driver equivalent of a> senior behind the wheel. That is only while they are on the phone. The> senior is a senior from the start of the trip till finish.

Bzzzt! Reading conclusions into the study that aren't there!

This is not applicable support for your assertion, so I'll repeat my
request that you cite the source of your assertion.
I have no> problem using my cell phone when I drive.

You don't *think* that you do, but in fact, yes, you do. It's
quantifiable.
I think food is much more of distraction than a cell phone.

Fortunately for everyone, your guesses and opinions aren't science.
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Harry K 3 February 2005 06:53:26 [ permanent link ]
 I presume you will copy and frame that post so you will be reminded of
it when (if) you reach of people status. I suspect your opinion will
be quite different then.

Harry K

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Daniel J. Stern 3 February 2005 07:11:54 [ permanent link ]
 On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Harry K wrote:
I presume you will copy and frame that post so you will be reminded of> it when (if) you reach of people status. I suspect your opinion will> be quite different then.

Y'know, Harry, when you post garbled nonsentences without quoted text,
nobody knows what the hell you're talking about, whom you're talking to,
or what point you're trying to make. Also, it makes you look like a dweeb.

$13.98, please drive around.
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Arif Khokar 3 February 2005 07:47:26 [ permanent link ]
 Daniel J. Stern wrote:> On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Harry K wrote:
I presume you will copy and frame that post so you will be reminded
it when (if) you reach of people status. I suspect your opinion
will> > be quite different then.
Y'know, Harry, when you post garbled nonsentences without quoted
text,> nobody knows what the hell you're talking about, whom you're talking
to,> or what point you're trying to make. Also, it makes you look like a
dweeb.

The problem stems from Google Groups beta's interface. At the end of
every post there is a 'Reply' link that does not include quoted text by
default. One has to click on 'show options' and then on the 'Reply'
link that subsequently appears. Then quoted text is included.

Unfortunately, the interface is not properly handling line wrapping of
quoted text which is not evident in the compose window (one has to
preview the post first).

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Daniel J. Stern 3 February 2005 07:59:09 [ permanent link ]
 On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Arif Khokar wrote:
The problem stems from Google Groups beta's interface.

Naw, I don't buy it. It's the driver's job to know how to use all the
controls and read all the displays.
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Fbloogyudsr 3 February 2005 09:03:32 [ permanent link ]
 "Arif Khokar" <guyincognito@teche­mail.com> wrote > The problem stems from Google Groups beta's interface. At the end of> every post there is a 'Reply' link that does not include quoted text by> default. One has to click on 'show options' and then on the 'Reply'> link that subsequently appears. Then quoted text is included.

Now if you'd just a *real* newsreader like OE... ;->

Floyd
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend 3 February 2005 10:32:31 [ permanent link ]
 phone-jockey Feb 2, 1:18 pm
Just today I observed three vehicles swerving from lanes
and all three drivers were using cell phones. It's getting
ridiculous out there!

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And if they lose control and kill three people, they just say it's an
accident and forget it. America is a nation of psychopaths.

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Xeton2001IsAMoron 20 dwpj65 3 February 2005 10:42:55 [ permanent link ]
 Yup; that's why Mass. residents keep electing a murderer to the senate.

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Bernd Felsche 3 February 2005 11:44:20 [ permanent link ]
 Arif Khokar <akhokar1234@wvu.ed­u> writes:>fbloogyudsr­ wrote:>> "Arif Khokar" <guyincognito@teche­mail.com> wrote
The problem stems from Google Groups beta's interface. At the end of>>> every post there is a 'Reply' link that does not include quoted text by>>> default. One has to click on 'show options' and then on the 'Reply'>>> link that subsequently appears. Then quoted text is included.
Now if you'd just a *real* newsreader like OE... ;->
Why use a newsreader instead of telnet to port 119? ;)

That *is* a newsreader. Better than OE, for sure. Certainly less
likely to break the machine that you're using.
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Harry K 3 February 2005 18:53:20 [ permanent link ]
 
Daniel J. Stern wrote:> On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Arif Khokar wrote:>
The problem stems from Google Groups beta's interface.>
Naw, I don't buy it. It's the driver's job to know how to use all the> controls and read all the displays.

Yeah, that is the problem and I have been trying to break myself of the
habit of using the 'quick reply' thingy. Why it is even there I can't
imagine. I am doing better, I usually catch myself now before sending
and redo it.

Harry K

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Guest 3 February 2005 23:08:24 [ permanent link ]
 Per phone-jockey:>Just today I observed three vehicles swerving from lanes>and all three drivers were using cell phones. It's getting>ridiculous out there!

Some weeks ago, my dentist said that some guy almost got him - who appeared to
be doing email on a BlackBerry.
--
PeteCresswell
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Notan 3 February 2005 23:11:09 [ permanent link ]
 "(Pete Cresswell)" wrote:>
Per phone-jockey:> >Just today I observed three vehicles swerving from lanes> >and all three drivers were using cell phones. It's getting> >ridiculous out there!>
Some weeks ago, my dentist said that some guy almost got him - who appeared to> be doing email on a BlackBerry.

Pretty good concentration to determine "email on a Blackberry" while traveling
in
a moving vehicle.

Maybe your dentist should've had his eyes on the road!

Notan
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Daniel J. Stern 3 February 2005 23:26:13 [ permanent link ]
 On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, The Blue wrote:
I assumed this was common knowledge that senior are a hazard on the> road.

"Common knowledge" is frequently not supportable by anything more than
repetition.
they found that when 18- to-25-year-olds were placed in a driving> simulator and talked on a cellular phone, they reacted to brake lights> from a car in front of them as slowly as 65- to 74-year-olds who<> were> not using a cell phone.

That does not support your assertion that elderly drivers are more
dangerous than celphone users.
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