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Go with the flow = wrong!
Guest 28 January 2005 08:41:17
	The advice "go with the flow" is wrong. The safest and most stress free way to drive on congested interstates is to keep your distance from other vehicles by waiting for a break in the traffic. When a break comes, THEN go at a speed so your distance remains constant from traffic far ahead and behind you.
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Garth Almgren 28 January 2005 09:52:52 [ permanent link ]
	Around 1/27/2005 8:41 PM, squash@peoriadesignweb.com wrote: The safest and most stress free> way to drive on congested interstates is to keep your distance from> other vehicles by waiting for a break in the traffic. Where are you doing this waiting, I wonder? When a break> comes, THEN go at a speed so your distance remains constant from> traffic far ahead and behind you. Hmm... Move at the same speed as traffic around you; in other words, you're saying just go with the flow. Good idea. -- ~/Garth \|"I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie. Almgren \| I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave. ******* \| And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant." (pgp@v6stang.com for secure mail info) --H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend 28 January 2005 09:58:34 [ permanent link ]
	How about OBEY THE LAW?
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Daniel J. Stern 28 January 2005 10:06:46 [ permanent link ]
	On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 squash@peoriadesignweb.com wrote: The advice "go with the flow" is wrong. The safest and most stress free> way to drive on congested interstates is to keep your distance from> other vehicles by waiting for a break in the traffic. When a break> comes, THEN go at a speed so your distance remains constant from traffic> far ahead and behind you. +--------------------------------------+ \ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 / \ \ 1 9 / \ 0 \ 10 / \ \ TROLL-O-METER / \ \ / \ \ / \___\______________________/ \ / \....................../ +----------+ \| PLEASE \| \| DO NOT \| \| FEED THE \| \| TROLLS \| +----------+ \| \| \| \| .\\|.\|\|/..
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Xeton2001IsAMoron 20 dwpj65 28 January 2005 10:14:22 [ permanent link ]
	How about GROW A CLUE?
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Garth Almgren 28 January 2005 11:43:41 [ permanent link ]
	Around 1/27/2005 9:58 PM, Aunt Judy (Pride of Diarrhea) <http://tinyurl.com/65nqz> wrote: How about OBEY THE LAW? Like "KEEP RIGHT EXCEPT TO PASS" or "SPEED LIMIT 25 MPH"? You don't seem to mind breaking /those/ laws. -- ~/Garth "I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it." - Edith Sitwell (Mail pgp@v6stang.com for secure contact information)
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Paul 28 January 2005 17:12:41 [ permanent link ]
	<squash@peoriadesignweb.com> wrote in message news:1106887277.675240.83760@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> The advice "go with the flow" is wrong. The safest and most stress free> way to drive on congested interstates is to keep your distance from> other vehicles by waiting for a break in the traffic. When a break> comes, THEN go at a speed so your distance remains constant from> traffic far ahead and behind you. How about "Keep Right Except To Pass?" Strangely enough, I have found that doing this on some recent trips has actually made the ride go smoother and with less stress....
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Alex Rodriguez 28 January 2005 21:57:04 [ permanent link ]
	In article <1106887277.675240.83760@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, squash@peoriadesignweb.com says...> The advice "go with the flow" is wrong. The safest and most stress free>way to drive on congested interstates is to keep your distance from>other vehicles by waiting for a break in the traffic. When a break>comes, THEN go at a speed so your distance remains constant from>traffic far ahead and behind you. Unfortunately, that is also the best way to get caught doing something wrong. ----------- Alex
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Bill the second 28 January 2005 22:14:54 [ permanent link ]
	"Garth Almgren" <nospam@v6stang.com> wrote in message news:35u2a0F4o20inU1@individual.net...> Around 1/27/2005 8:41 PM, squash@peoriadesignweb.com wrote:> The safest and most stress free>> way to drive on congested interstates is to keep your distance from>> other vehicles by waiting for a break in the traffic.> Where are you doing this waiting, I wonder? Hopefully not stopped on the onramp.
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John David Galt 29 January 2005 00:21:43 [ permanent link ]
	squash@peoriadesignweb.com wrote:> The advice "go with the flow" is wrong. The safest and most stress free> way to drive on congested interstates is to keep your distance from> other vehicles by waiting for a break in the traffic. When a break> comes, THEN go at a speed so your distance remains constant from> traffic far ahead and behind you. 1) "Waiting for a break" where? It better not be in the traffic lanes. 2) Leave a significant gap ahead and people WILL fill it. Trust me. And if you then slow to try to maintain the gap, you're a complete moron _AND_ a public nuisance.
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ChrisCoaster 29 January 2005 04:53:13 [ permanent link ]
	That's the problem John, American driving style, and just about everything else American, reeks of "Mefirstism" IMO that is more dangerous than either Conservatism or Liberalism. Americans think they're in a freakin' RACE when they drive. That's why they do stupid things on the road, like try to fit too much car into no space when lane merging. Or tailgating because they perceive the driver in front of them is going too slow for their tastes. Well, THIS American will get there first, because I drove slow enough to avoid running into the back of that SUV, like that Toyota just did. Because I drove slow enough to properly negotiate an off-ramp, unlike that Buick - which is now laying on it's side on the embankment. Because I regulated my speed enough to reach the intersection just as the lights turned green, and not try to run the previous read, as did that SAAB, who will now be late to work because a cop is performing his duty with him. Because I didn't feel the need to HAVE to be in front of that minivan, which is now involved in a wreck with the Ford who merged in front of it too soon, clipping the van's nose! Moral: Leave earlier and slow the %# down - you'll get there sooner! -CC
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Scott en Aztln 29 January 2005 07:28:41 [ permanent link ]
	On 28 Jan 2005 16:53:13 -0800, "SlothCoaster" <ckozicki@snet.net> wrote: Moral: Leave earlier and slow the %# down - you'll get there sooner! I prefer to put the hammer down and let Sloths like you eat my dust. That not only gets me there sooner, but it's a hell of a lot more fun. -- Sloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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Nate Nagel 30 January 2005 05:15:13 [ permanent link ]
	squash@peoriadesignweb.com wrote: ChrisCoaster wrote:> That's the problem John, American driving style, and just about>>everything else American, reeks of "Mefirstism" IMO that is more>>dangerous than either Conservatism or Liberalism. Americans think>>they're in a freakin' RACE when they drive. That's why they do> stupid> things on the road, like try to fit too much car into no space when>>lane merging. Or tailgating because they perceive the driver in>>front of them is going too slow for their tastes.>> Well, THIS American will get there first, because I drove slow enough>>to avoid running into the back of that SUV, like that Toyota just> did.> Because I drove slow enough to properly negotiate an off-ramp, unlike>>that Buick - which is now laying on it's side on the embankment.>>Because I regulated my speed enough to reach the intersection just as>>the lights turned green, and not try to run the previous read, as did>>that SAAB, who will now be late to work because a cop is performing> duty with him. Because I didn't feel the need to HAVE to be in front>>of that minivan, which is now involved in a wreck with the Ford who>>merged in front of it too soon, clipping the van's nose!>> Moral: Leave earlier and slow the %# down - you'll get there sooner!>>-CC> Amen. Could not have said it better myself!> Sure you could, if you're not a complete idiot - you could have blasted Chris for repeating that old chestnut that if you just slow down you'll be safer. It ain't speed that causes accidents - it's lack of skill, common sense, whatever. It's perfectly possible to drive fast and still be safe. nate -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel
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Guest 30 January 2005 07:06:15 [ permanent link ]
	yes you can drive fast and still be safe, but the odds are against you and it depends on how you defined safe? I have driven coast to coast several times and have seen my fair share of junk in the middle of the interstate, like deer, bicycles, furniture, blow out semi tires. I probably would not be alive today if I was driving "fast" when I saw them too late! For anyone who logs in hundreds of thousand of miles, driving at a controllable speed is the way to survive.
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Scott en Aztln 30 January 2005 09:11:28 [ permanent link ]
	On 29 Jan 2005 19:06:15 -0800, squash@peoriadesignweb.com wrote: yes you can drive fast and still be safe, but the odds are against you>and it depends on how you defined safe? I have driven coast to coast>several times and have seen my fair share of junk in the middle of the>interstate, like deer, bicycles, furniture, blow out semi tires. I>probably would not be alive today if I was driving "fast" when I saw>them too late! For anyone who logs in hundreds of thousand of miles,>driving at a controllable speed is the way to survive. I was driving at 120MPH the other day, and I had no problem remaining in control. I might have tried going even faster, but the engine wasn't fully broken in yet. ;) -- Sloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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Arif Khokar 30 January 2005 09:44:16 [ permanent link ]
	Scott en AztlГЎn wrote: I was driving at 120MPH the other day, and I had no problem remaining> in control. I might have tried going even faster, but the engine> wasn't fully broken in yet. ;) Ah, so you finally broke your previous speed record ;)
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James C. Reeves 31 January 2005 00:50:03 [ permanent link ]
	<squash@peoriadesignweb.com> wrote in message news:1106887277.675240.83760@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> The advice "go with the flow" is wrong. The safest and most stress free> way to drive on congested interstates is to keep your distance from> other vehicles by waiting for a break in the traffic. When a break> comes, THEN go at a speed so your distance remains constant from> traffic far ahead and behind you.> Your post appears to be full of contradictions.
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Scott en Aztln 31 January 2005 03:10:08 [ permanent link ]
	On 30 Jan 2005 12:11:16 -0800, "ChrisCoaster" <ckozicki@snet.net> wrote: If everyone on the road were in a hurry, or at least>> had the sense to drive as if they were even when they're not, traffic>> would move fast and there wouldn't be a problem. What creates conflict>> and problems is the people whose attitude is "relax, I'm not in a hurry>> and you shouldn't be either". They waste everybody's time and so have>> no right to be there.>_____________>Answer this, Einie - What are we in such a hurry for any how? Life is short, and you only get one go-'round. The last thing I want is to waste time stuck behind the likes of you, as those minutes you steal from my life can never be replaced. -- Sloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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Scott en Aztln 31 January 2005 03:11:04 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 05:44:16 GMT, Arif Khokar <akhokar1234@wvu.edu> wrote: I was driving at 120MPH the other day, and I had no problem remaining>> in control. I might have tried going even faster, but the engine>> wasn't fully broken in yet. ;)> Ah, so you finally broke your previous speed record ;) Well, it's not like I've been trying on a daily basis or anything, but yeah. ;) -- Sloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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Scott en Aztln 31 January 2005 03:11:41 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:50:03 -0500, "James C. Reeves" <jcnospam@nospam.com> wrote: <squash@peoriadesignweb.com> wrote in message >news:1106887277.675240.83760@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...>> The advice "go with the flow" is wrong. The safest and most stress free>> way to drive on congested interstates is to keep your distance from>> other vehicles by waiting for a break in the traffic. When a break>> comes, THEN go at a speed so your distance remains constant from>> traffic far ahead and behind you.> Your post appears to be full of contradictions. Troll posts usually are. -- Sloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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Michael 31 January 2005 05:43:11 [ permanent link ]
	Scott en AztlГЎn wrote:> On 28 Jan 2005 16:53:13 -0800, "SlothCoaster" <ckozicki@snet.net>> wrote:> Moral: Leave earlier and slow the %# down - you'll get there sooner!> I prefer to put the hammer down and let Sloths like you eat my dust.> That not only gets me there sooner, but it's a hell of a lot more fun.> > He has a point. I don't see a point why would I want to go "fast" from light to light? To waste gas? Yes, on highways I drive relatively fast for New York City(70s) but on the streets I usually just speed up enough to have enough momentum to roll up to the next light just as it turns green.
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Scott en Aztln 31 January 2005 09:06:34 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:42:40 -0500, Nate Nagel <njnagel@flycast.net> wrote: Life is short, and you only get one go-'round. The last thing I want>> is to waste time stuck behind the likes of you, as those minutes you>> steal from my life can never be replaced.> Exactly. We have the technology to travel safely faster than we are >now, why hobble ourselves and spend hours commuting that could be spent >doing something more fun? Here's hoping that people like Coaster spend one minute in hell for every minute they steal from the lives of other drivers on the road. -- Sloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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John David Galt 31 January 2005 10:25:52 [ permanent link ]
	ChrisCoaster wrote:> Answer this, Einie - What are we in such a hurry for any how? I just> don't subscribe to the philosophy that to make your 8:30 job 20 miles> away that you should leave at 8:20 and bully everyone else on the road> just to get there at 8:33.... There's a place for your point of view, but it isn't on the road.
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Dym 31 January 2005 18:53:02 [ permanent link ]
	On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 21:11:28 -0800, Scott en AztlГЎn <slothkills@NOyahooSPAM.com> wrote: On 29 Jan 2005 19:06:15 -0800, squash@peoriadesignweb.com wrote:> yes you can drive fast and still be safe, but the odds are against you>>and it depends on how you defined safe? I have driven coast to coast>>several times and have seen my fair share of junk in the middle of the>>interstate, like deer, bicycles, furniture, blow out semi tires. I>>probably would not be alive today if I was driving "fast" when I saw>>them too late! For anyone who logs in hundreds of thousand of miles,>>driving at a controllable speed is the way to survive.> I was driving at 120MPH the other day, and I had no problem remaining>in control. I might have tried going even faster, but the engine>wasn't fully broken in yet. ;) And when you hit me in the rear (cause I always keep to the safe & legal Speed limit), if you survive, who will be charged with the collison. DYM
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Scott en Aztln 31 January 2005 19:21:07 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:53:02 GMT, DYM <dymnews@verizon.net> wrote: I was driving at 120MPH the other day, and I had no problem remaining>>in control. I might have tried going even faster, but the engine>>wasn't fully broken in yet. ;)> And when you hit me in the rear (cause I always keep to the safe &>legal Speed limit), if you survive, who will be charged with the>collison. It will never happen. I never out-drive my line of sight. When I was doing 120 MPH, I was in the middle of the Sonoran desert, it was bright and sunny, the road was dry as a bone, and there were no other vehicles in sight from horizon to horizon. Next time I drive through the area, I think I'll try for 140. -- Sloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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Jim Yanik 31 January 2005 20:19:43 [ permanent link ]
	Nate Nagel <njnagel@flycast.net> wrote in news:ef-dnTEqU9hi7WDcRVn- 2w@comcast.com: Scott en Aztlбn wrote:> On 30 Jan 2005 12:11:16 -0800, "ChrisCoaster" <ckozicki@snet.net>>> wrote:>> If everyone on the road were in a hurry, or at least>>>>had the sense to drive as if they were even when they're not, traffic>>>>would move fast and there wouldn't be a problem. What creates conflict>>>>and problems is the people whose attitude is "relax, I'm not in a hurry>>>>and you shouldn't be either". They waste everybody's time and so have>>>>no right to be there.>>> _____________>>>Answer this, Einie - What are we in such a hurry for any how?>> Life is short, and you only get one go-'round. The last thing I want>> is to waste time stuck behind the likes of you, as those minutes you>> steal from my life can never be replaced.>> Exactly. We have the technology to travel safely faster than we are > now, why hobble ourselves and spend hours commuting that could be spent > doing something more fun?> nate> These folks want everybody dragged down to the LCD. (lowest common denominator) Just because someone else is a clueless driver,they want me to suffer for it. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net
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Jim Yanik 31 January 2005 20:24:03 [ permanent link ]
	Michael <newstemp@mailsnare.net> wrote in news2gLd.94488$kq2.9298@twister.nyc.rr.com: Scott en Aztlбn wrote:>> On 28 Jan 2005 16:53:13 -0800, "SlothCoaster" <ckozicki@snet.net>>> wrote:>> Moral: Leave earlier and slow the %# down - you'll get there sooner!>> I prefer to put the hammer down and let Sloths like you eat my dust.>> That not only gets me there sooner, but it's a hell of a lot more fun.>> >> He has a point.> I don't see a point why would I want to go "fast" from light to light? > To waste gas? Yes, on highways I drive relatively fast for New York > City(70s) but on the streets I usually just speed up enough to have > enough momentum to roll up to the next light just as it turns green. Well,there are vehicles behind you that could also get through that light,increasing the flow of traffic. Dawdling brings gridlock that much closer. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net
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Scott en Aztln 2 February 2005 07:35:52 [ permanent link ]
	On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 00:54:49 +0000, Alexander Rogge <a_rogge@yahoo.com> wrote: I was in the right lane approaching a poorly-maintained pick-up truck in >the left lane of a 100 km/h zone. I noticed that the LLB was slouched >down in the seat, right wrist resting on the left side of the wheel. A "limp wrister." The LLB was doing less than 50 km/h and refusing to move over... no >lights on at dusk, either, and the junk in the back was not secured. >The traffic jam was soon over 30 cars long in both lanes. As the LLB >approached the next intersection, it suddenly decided that it needed to >be in the right turn lane. The LLB drifted to the right and almost hit >two cars. When those two drivers refused to be Enablers, the LLB >stopped in the left lane until the right lane was empty. MFFY driving at it's finest. -- Sloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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Scott en Aztln 3 February 2005 08:52:50 [ permanent link ]
	On 2 Feb 2005 19:02:28 -0800, "ChrisCoaster" <ckozicki@snet.net> wrote: DYM,> Do yourself a huge favor and spare your energy and sanity by not>arguing with the likes of this "Scott Azatlan". He possesses more>arrogance and self pride than any human should be allowed to, and>everybody elses opinion is wrong and irrelevant. You might as well be>debating Sean Hannity or Bill O'Really. DYM, As you probably already know, when one party to a debate has to resort to Ad Hominem attacks, it's a sure sign he has nothing substantive to say and has already lost the argument. -- Sloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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James C. Reeves 4 February 2005 07:13:56 [ permanent link ]
	Scott is alright!
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Arif Khokar 4 February 2005 07:18:39 [ permanent link ]
	James C. Reeves wrote: "Scott en AztlГЎn" <slothkills@NOyahooSPAM.com> wrote: Next time I drive through the area, I think I'll try for 140. Make sure your tires are rated for that speed first. Yes, because Corvettes are equipped with S rated tires from the factory. <rolls eyes>
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Scott en Aztln 4 February 2005 18:45:43 [ permanent link ]
	On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 22:13:17 -0500, "James C. Reeves" <jcnospam@nospam.com> wrote: Next time I drive through the area, I think I'll try for 140.> Make sure your tires are rated for that speed first. The tires are Goodyear Eagle F1 Extended Mobility with a Z speed rating. That will cover me up to at least 149 MPH. -- Sloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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