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Re: LASER + PHOTO RADAR License plate cover
Dg 24 January 2005 22:08:24
	Can someone tell me if there is anything that defeats the red light cameras or speed cameras. I am getting fed up with these stupid camera tickets that are absolutely unfair. I got one the other day for driving 4mph above the speed limit. What do they call this safety or ripping off? I need help.
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Lawrence Glickman 24 January 2005 22:31:25 [ permanent link ]
	On 24 Jan 2005 10:08:24 -0800, "DG" <david_green1998@yahoo.com> wrote: Can someone tell me if there is anything that defeats the red light>cameras or speed cameras. A 5.56 millimeter bullet ? I am getting fed up with these stupid camera>tickets that are absolutely unfair. I got one the other day for>driving 4mph above the speed limit. What do they call this safety or>ripping off? I need help. Ripping off. Cover your plates with something that will screw it up. Lg
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Daniel J. Stern 24 January 2005 23:58:27 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, DG wrote: Can someone tell me if there is anything that defeats the red light> cameras or speed cameras. The driver's brain.
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Alex Rodriguez 25 January 2005 00:20:35 [ permanent link ]
	In article <1106590104.926858.231330@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, david_green1998@yahoo.com says... Can someone tell me if there is anything that defeats the red light>cameras or speed cameras. I am getting fed up with these stupid camera>tickets that are absolutely unfair. I got one the other day for>driving 4mph above the speed limit. What do they call this safety or>ripping off? I need help. there are various license plate covers that purport to work, but they are probably illegal. ------------ Alex
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Hls 25 January 2005 00:37:17 [ permanent link ]
	"DG" <david_green1998@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1106590104.926858.231330@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... I need help. You sure do. Slow down. That will stop it.
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Jim Yanik 25 January 2005 04:27:19 [ permanent link ]
	"DG" <david_green1998@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1106590104.926858.231330@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com: Can someone tell me if there is anything that defeats the red light> cameras or speed cameras. I am getting fed up with these stupid camera> tickets that are absolutely unfair. I got one the other day for> driving 4mph above the speed limit. What do they call this safety or> ripping off? I need help.> photoblocker;a spray that is clear until flashed by the camera flash,then it reflects totally and obscures any reading of the plate.No cover to be spotted by a LEO. Illegal in most states,though. www.photoblocker.com Or you could splatter mud over the plate. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net
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JazzMan 25 January 2005 07:01:50 [ permanent link ]
	Daniel J. Stern wrote:> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, DG wrote:> Can someone tell me if there is anything that defeats the red light> > cameras or speed cameras.> The driver's brain. Or, a well-placed ought six should do it. That, or a large structural steel bumper with lots of reinforcement. Hehehe... JazzMan -- ******************************************************** Please reply to jsavage"at"airmail.net. Curse those darned bulk e-mailers! ****************************************************** "Rats and roaches live by competition under the laws of supply and demand. It is the privilege of human beings to live under the laws of justice and mercy." - Wendell Berry ********************************************************
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Scott en Aztln 25 January 2005 07:45:38 [ permanent link ]
	On 24 Jan 2005 10:08:24 -0800, "DG" <david_green1998@yahoo.com> wrote: Can someone tell me if there is anything that defeats the red light>cameras or speed cameras. A pellet gun. Buying a new car and driving through before your plates arrive in the mail (works great for tollbooths, too). -- Sloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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Y_p_w 25 January 2005 08:43:34 [ permanent link ]
	Scott en AztlГЎn wrote: On 24 Jan 2005 10:08:24 -0800, "DG" <david_green1998@yahoo.com> wrote:> Can someone tell me if there is anything that defeats the red light>>cameras or speed cameras. > A pellet gun.> Buying a new car and driving through before your plates arrive in the> mail (works great for tollbooths, too). Not around here. California Highway Patrol are always checking for carpool cheats on our toll bridges, and I'm sure the toll booth operators have a way of alerting them.
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Ed 25 January 2005 21:42:32 [ permanent link ]
	also, if you have GPS, you could download the locations of all the light cameras, and run an alarm setup when you are near one as a reminder. I like the mud idea too. Those cameras are indeed highway robbery...literally...
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Alex Rodriguez 25 January 2005 23:48:13 [ permanent link ]
	In article <Pine.GSO.4.58.0501241458010.7341@alumni.engin.umich.edu>, dastern@127.0.0.1 says...> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, DG wrote:> Can someone tell me if there is anything that defeats the red light>> cameras or speed cameras.> The driver's brain. Unfortunately that is not true. It usually takes legislation to defeat the red light camera. ------------ Alex
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TeGGer® 26 January 2005 05:00:07 [ permanent link ]
	I love Edsels <henry@ford.com> wrote in news:l6pdv0podefqe2oa5skakoctdaqrnbpopd@4ax.com: On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:20:35 -0500, Alex Rodriguez <adr5@columbia.edu>> wrote:> there are various license plate covers that purport to work, but they>>are probably illegal. > here in Seattle I see plate covers all over, even though they're> illegal. the cops don't seem to care. The same here. People are buying and installing blue and yellow ones. Guess what? They're illegal. Sure the cops don't care. It's a "secondary offense": you only get charged if they pull you over for something else, like it used to be here (until very recently) for seat belt violations. The driver license offices here sell clear ones ($13 each!), which are legal. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Doug Warner 26 January 2005 07:01:21 [ permanent link ]
	Alex Rodriguez <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote: Unfortunately that is not true. It usually takes legislation to defeat >the red light camera. >------------>Alex Are they bulletproof? To reply, please remove one letter from each side of "@" Spammers are VERMIN. Please kill them all.
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Alex Rodriguez 26 January 2005 21:54:03 [ permanent link ]
	In article <tu1ev05vcsocv5ao52ebg24r5h1rr7o6do@4ax.com>, dwarner22@ccharter.net says...> Alex Rodriguez <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote:> Unfortunately that is not true. It usually takes legislation to defeat >>the red light camera. >>------------>>Alex> Are they bulletproof? No, but that doesn't help after they have your picture. ------------ Alex
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Matthew Russotto 27 January 2005 19:49:25 [ permanent link ]
	In article <Xns95EADEB864235jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85>, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote:> Besides,opening them up to light ought to overexpose the film. Most red light cameras/speed cameras are digital. Pre-emptively destroying them would seem to be the best idea, provided you don't get caught.
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Alex Rodriguez 27 January 2005 20:53:01 [ permanent link ]
	In article <Xns95EADEB864235jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85>, jyanik@abuse.gov. says... Besides,opening them up to light ought to overexpose the film. I'm pretty sure these have all gone digital, so you can't overexpose the film. ------------ Alex
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Riteous Right Reverend Mahmoud Bin Changstein 27 January 2005 22:44:30 [ permanent link ]
	Just fight the ticket in court. Your local DA will probably dismiss the charge when push comes to shove. First line of defense is to have the camera in question impounded for calibration. This will remove the income producing device temporarily at least. Since most folks just mail in the fines and never question the machine its removal will cause some consternation with the authorities. If the machine proves to be as little as .1 mph off it may be assumed to be behaving improperly. Chances are the DA would rather dismiss your one charge than have to drop several hundred. On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:42:32 -0500, "ed" <overwhelmed999@yahhchoo.com> wrote: also, if you have GPS, you could download the locations of all the light>cameras, and run an alarm setup when you are near one as a reminder. I like>the mud idea too. Those cameras are indeed highway robbery...literally...>
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Jim Yanik 28 January 2005 01:27:29 [ permanent link ]
	russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) wrote in news:jLSdnURvovAYkGTcRVn-vg@speakeasy.net: In article <Xns95EADEB864235jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85>,> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote:>> Besides,opening them up to light ought to overexpose the film.> Most red light cameras/speed cameras are digital.> Pre-emptively destroying them would seem to be the best idea, provided> you don't get caught.> Digital pix can be altered.How do they prove the pix were not altered? -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net
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Guest 28 January 2005 18:27:37 [ permanent link ]
	On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:44:30 GMT, Riteous Right Reverend Mahmoud Bin Changstein <killer@!large.con> wrote: Just fight the ticket in court. Your local DA will probably dismiss>the charge when push comes to shove. First line of defense is to have>the camera in question impounded for calibration. This will remove the Now this impounding, I remember a speeding ticket case I was at, the calibration on the radar gun was some tuning fork test, they did every day. Aren't photo cops tested each day, or have an internal test that could null your request for a calibration? income producing device temporarily at least. Since most folks just>mail in the fines and never question the machine its removal will>cause some consternation with the authorities. If the machine proves>to be as little as .1 mph off it may be assumed to be behaving>improperly. Chances are the DA would rather dismiss your one charge>than have to drop several hundred.> On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:42:32 -0500, "ed" <overwhelmed999@yahhchoo.com>>wrote:> also, if you have GPS, you could download the locations of all the light>>cameras, and run an alarm setup when you are near one as a reminder. I like>>the mud idea too. Those cameras are indeed highway robbery...literally...>> Thanks, Tom @ www.CarFleaMarket.com
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Jim Yanik 29 January 2005 07:24:01 [ permanent link ]
	russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) wrote in news:a_ednVxggu9GCmfcRVn-oA@speakeasy.net: In article <Xns95EC85221AF95jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85>,> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote:>>Doug Warner <dwarner22@ccharter.net> wrote in >>news:da8jv0dnqbrcba1qn30hs9hvvh3stuj6s3@4ax.com:>> russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) wrote:>>> Pre-emptively destroying them would seem to be the best idea, provided>>>>you don't get caught.>>> That would be certain, at least after the first "hit" Walk up>>> underneath one, put a couple of bullets through the bottom, and there>>> will be tiny cameras all over the place, watching the next time.>> That's why a RIFLE with a scope would be preferable,besides the extra >>kinetic energy.Do it from a distance.> There's always the "do it at night" idea too. Night vision equipment> isn't yet cheap enough to have a night-vision camera for each traffic> camera.> Nonsense.I have a cheap CCD board-camera that works fine at night with IR illumination. Image intensification is not necessary in most street locations. Wal-Mart and other stores use them,too,for parking lot surveillance. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net
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Doug Warner 29 January 2005 10:12:08 [ permanent link ]
	Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote: How about POLICE actually stopping them and writing them REAL tickets with >real points on their license?? (and others see them doing it) Forget the ticket. Just move the runner's car off into a side street or parking lot and slash all four tires. The delay and expense will be punishment enough. To reply, please remove one letter from each side of "@" Spammers are VERMIN. Please kill them all.
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Scott en Aztln 5 February 2005 21:33:51 [ permanent link ]
	On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:26:30 +0000 (UTC), "pottsy" <pottsy@pottsy.com> wrote: The authorities in the UK have got around a couple of the snags here.> The cameras don't use film, they're digital, so never run out of film and >the captured info is transmitted back to a central server and the fine >posted out. Heh heh - if that transmission takes place via a wireless link, how long before somebody figures out the frequency they use and sets up jammers as a public service? -- Sloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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Scott en Aztln 6 February 2005 23:45:59 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:51:40 -0600, JazzMan <No_Spam@airmail.net> wrote: I think that the main contention that many people have with>red light camera systems isn't the camera, it's the fact that>universally the light timing is set up on the intersection to>maximize the chance of catching someone running a red light.>Turning the yellow time down to the absolute legal minimum>duration does not serve any safety purpose whatsoever. In many cases, the yellow light time is set BELOW the legal minimum. This is especially prevalent when a private contractor installs the cameras in exchange for a cut of the profits. -- Sloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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Rojo2G 7 February 2005 05:36:52 [ permanent link ]
	maximize the chance of catching someone running a red light. I don't remember exactly where I saw this, but I have a vague memory of a film or something you can put over your liscence plate that looks clear but will not allow a camera to record the number. It could be some sort of polarized plastic. Rojo
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Ed 9 February 2005 16:01:15 [ permanent link ]
	It's man vs machine gentleman. I have one question though, if the license plate is sufficient evidence to mail the owner a ticket, then why take a picture of our face? oh wait let me guess...so possible terrorists can be weeded out... seriously, why take a picture of the driver?
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Scott en Aztln 9 February 2005 19:21:58 [ permanent link ]
	On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 07:01:15 -0500, "ed" <overwhelmed999@yahhchoo.com> wrote: It's man vs machine gentleman.> I have one question though, if the license plate is sufficient evidence to>mail the owner a ticket, then why take a picture of our face? oh wait let>me guess...so possible terrorists can be weeded out...> seriously, why take a picture of the driver? Because the owners always claim that they weren't the ones driving the car through the red light. So now they take a picture of the driver so they can prove in court who committed the violation. -- Sloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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