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Re: The Sloths are Taking Over
Brent P 23 January 2005 02:43:25
	In article <10v47k7gvov0jdb@corp.supernews.com>, Guy Macon wrote: As for sloths, who cares when there are three lanes going each > way, with a fourth left-turn lane and a fifth right turn lane> at every intersection? Just drive around any sloth you see, and > watch as the speeders pass you, all with no conflict by design. Extra lanes only minimally reduce the effect of sloth because sloth drivers have a nasty habbit of driving next to each other instead of keeping right. There wouldn't be a problem if they kept right.
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Guy Macon 23 January 2005 05:30:04 [ permanent link ]
	Scott en AztlГЎn wrote:> Guy Macon wrote:> As for sloths, who cares when there are three lanes going each >>>>way, with a fourth left-turn lane and a fifth right turn lane>>>>at every intersection? Just drive around any sloth you see>>> Easier said than done when the Sloths are driving three-abreast down>>>Culver Drive at 35 MPH, forming a Rolling Roadblock...>> My point exactly. In North Orange County this doesn't happen> Of course it does. I used to work in Garbage Grove, and I ran into 5>lanes of Sloths on Beach Boulevard every morning. Beach Boulevard is a>so-called "Smart Street" - what good is a Smart Street when it's full>of Dumb Drivers? Let me guess; were these "sloths" going at the median speed? You could have used a parallel street one or two blocks to the left or right. Also, if you think that Beach Blvd. is slower than the parking lots they call streets in Irvine, you haven't been paying attention.
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Guy Macon 23 January 2005 05:32:16 [ permanent link ]
	Brent P wrote:> In article <10v47k7gvov0jdb@corp.supernews.com>, Guy Macon wrote:> As for sloths, who cares when there are three lanes going each >> way, with a fourth left-turn lane and a fifth right turn lane>> at every intersection? Just drive around any sloth you see, and >> watch as the speeders pass you, all with no conflict by design.> Extra lanes only minimally reduce the effect of sloth because sloth >drivers have a nasty habbit of driving next to each other instead of >keeping right. There wouldn't be a problem if they kept right. Extra lanes have a huge effect. It's a lot harder to get three slow drivers across than it is to get two. And of course in areas of the country that have two-lane roads with no passing, it only takes one.
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Brent P 23 January 2005 06:00:41 [ permanent link ]
	In article <10v5vlbon88mb5@corp.supernews.com>, Guy Macon wrote:> Brent P wrote:>> In article <10v47k7gvov0jdb@corp.supernews.com>, Guy Macon wrote:>> As for sloths, who cares when there are three lanes going each >>> way, with a fourth left-turn lane and a fifth right turn lane>>> at every intersection? Just drive around any sloth you see, and >>> watch as the speeders pass you, all with no conflict by design.>> Extra lanes only minimally reduce the effect of sloth because sloth >>drivers have a nasty habbit of driving next to each other instead of >>keeping right. There wouldn't be a problem if they kept right.> Extra lanes have a huge effect. It's a lot harder to get three > slow drivers across than it is to get two. And of course in areas> of the country that have two-lane roads with no passing, it only> takes one. One would think it would be harder. But it doesn't seem to be anywhere near as more difficult as one would think. Really late at night, when there are only 2 or 3 other vehicles on the same road as I, they will be right next to each other. Sloth attracts sloth. They have an ability to come together to form a rolling road block.
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Arif Khokar 23 January 2005 06:45:35 [ permanent link ]
	Brent P wrote: One would think it would be harder. But it doesn't seem to be anywhere > near as more difficult as one would think.> Really late at night, when there are only 2 or 3 other vehicles on > the same road as I, they will be right next to each other. Sloth attracts > sloth. They have an ability to come together to form a rolling road > block. I can't say for certain, but it seems that lane discipline is better when there are only 2 lanes available (per side).
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Scott en Aztln 23 January 2005 09:01:57 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:30:04 +0000, Guy Macon <_see.web.page_@_www.guymacon.com_> wrote: Let me guess; were these "sloths" going at the median speed? Actually, their speed was closer to that of the medians. You could have used a parallel street one or two blocks to the>left or right. You've never been to Irvine, have you? The next parallel surface street to Irvine Boulevard that actually goes through to Bake Parkway is about 5 miles away. Portola dead-ends at the toll road entrance; Trabuco ends at the entrance to the former MCAS El Toro. The next parallel through street is Irvine Center Drive. http://tinyurl.com/4es83 Also, if you think that Beach Blvd. is slower >than the parking lots they call streets in Irvine, you haven't>been paying attention. You must be thinking of a different Irvine than the one I'm talking about, or perhaps a different Beach Boulevard. The Beach Boulevard I'm familiar with is so jammed with traffic that you can barely make it off the off-ramp of the westbound 22 freeway during the morning rush hour. Even on the weekends when I go over to DVDPlanet it's jam packed. It sucks! -- Sloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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Brent P 23 January 2005 12:49:40 [ permanent link ]
	In article <1co6v0l3jkai0i4oeslv50imn1gap69mnc@4ax.com>, AZGuy wrote: Why were you worried about crossing a solid white line, assuming you> mean a standard width one (same width as normal skip lines) 1) he was using an exit lane to pass. 2) I think in some states, a solid white line is not to be crossed. In IL it's cross with caution.
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Scott en Aztln 23 January 2005 19:48:12 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:35:26 -0700, AZGuy <SPAMOUT@cox.net> wrote: Why were you worried about crossing a solid white line, assuming you>mean a standard width one (same width as normal skip lines) Tecnically it's a no-no, although generally they are painted in places where the danger involved in crossing it is minimal. I guess if they really don't want you to cross, they paint the lines yelow. -- Sloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/
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Skip Elliott Bowman 23 January 2005 22:09:41 [ permanent link ]
	"Scott en Aztlбn" <slothkills@NOyahooSPAM.com> wrote in message news:vjh7v0h1rm78ggaj8vnlujme8sp0cm51mb@4ax.com...> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:35:26 -0700, AZGuy <SPAMOUT@cox.net> wrote:> Why were you worried about crossing a solid white line, assuming you>>mean a standard width one (same width as normal skip lines)> Tecnically it's a no-no, although generally they are painted in places> where the danger involved in crossing it is minimal. I guess if they> really don't want you to cross, they paint the lines yelow. Actually, if they really don't want you to cross, they put up concrete barriers...
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Matthew Russotto 24 January 2005 20:03:11 [ permanent link ]
	In article <47KdnXKFMot0RGzcRVn-uA@comcast.com>, Brent P <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote:>In article <jfj3v0pgqet8uaef0vhm5d3cs0fi9pjh1u@4ax.com>, Scott en Aztlбn wrote:> the roads were wide open>> (except for a few arrogant pedalcyclists, who undoubtedly used these>> roads for the same reason I was). > Things have changed drastically. Now large sections of former farmland>> are being developed into housing, and the roads are jam-packed with>> Sloth who drive a maximum of 45 MPH on these 65 MPH roads - and, of>> course, there is a 1/4 mile long conga line of vehicles stuck behind>> these assholes. > Proof that a few ordinary sloth drivers are worse than any bicyclist could >be even if he was trying. Nope. The bicyclist would be doing 10mph and the conga line would be that much longer.
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Brent P 25 January 2005 06:22:42 [ permanent link ]
	In article <Xns95E8C62BB1C7Fjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.83>, Jim Yanik wrote:> tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote in> news:YbednaK6zLgc7WjcRVn-gA@comcast.com: > In article <XqCdnYq9-ZCigWjcRVn-tw@speakeasy.net>, Matthew Russotto>> wrote: >>> In article <47KdnXKFMot0RGzcRVn-uA@comcast.com>,>>> Brent P <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote:>>>>In article <jfj3v0pgqet8uaef0vhm5d3cs0fi9pjh1u@4ax.com>, Scott en>>>>AztlГЎn wrote: >>>> the roads were wide open>>>>> (except for a few arrogant pedalcyclists, who undoubtedly used>>>>> these roads for the same reason I was). >>>> Things have changed drastically. Now large sections of former>>>>> farmland are being developed into housing, and the roads are>>>>> jam-packed with Sloth who drive a maximum of 45 MPH on these 65 MPH>>>>> roads - and, of course, there is a 1/4 mile long conga line of>>>>> vehicles stuck behind these assholes. >>>> Proof that a few ordinary sloth drivers are worse than any bicyclist>>>>could be even if he was trying. >>> Nope. The bicyclist would be doing 10mph and the conga line would be>>> that much longer.>> Only a driver so unskilled as to be unable to pass the bicyclist>> blocked the road. Except that conditions often preclude passing,no matter how "skilled" you > are(or think you are). I rutinely find it easier to pass bicyclists than sloth drivers. Sure, sometimes I need to plan ahead to pass a bicyclist easily, but that's no big deal. Sloth drivers create significantly more delay IME.
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Bernard farquart 25 January 2005 08:16:01 [ permanent link ]
	"Brent P" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:-LmdnboQeofvMGjcRVn-1Q@comcast.com... I rutinely find it easier to pass bicyclists than sloth drivers. Sure,> sometimes I need to plan ahead to pass a bicyclist easily, but that's no> big deal. Sloth drivers create significantly more delay IME.> Yeah, bicycles are much narrower, and since they are moving slower, take less time to pass. Bernard
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Brent P 26 January 2005 00:03:52 [ permanent link ]
	In article <studneiy6_u-82vcRVn-oQ@speakeasy.net>, Matthew Russotto wrote:> In article <YbednaK6zLgc7WjcRVn-gA@comcast.com>,> Brent P <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote:>>In article <XqCdnYq9-ZCigWjcRVn-tw@speakeasy.net>, Matthew Russotto wrote:>>> In article <47KdnXKFMot0RGzcRVn-uA@comcast.com>,>>> Brent P <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote:>>>>In article <jfj3v0pgqet8uaef0vhm5d3cs0fi9pjh1u@4ax.com>, Scott en AztlГЎn wrote:>>>> the roads were wide open>>>>> (except for a few arrogant pedalcyclists, who undoubtedly used these>>>>> roads for the same reason I was). >>>> Things have changed drastically. Now large sections of former farmland>>>>> are being developed into housing, and the roads are jam-packed with>>>>> Sloth who drive a maximum of 45 MPH on these 65 MPH roads - and, of>>>>> course, there is a 1/4 mile long conga line of vehicles stuck behind>>>>> these assholes. >>>> Proof that a few ordinary sloth drivers are worse than any bicyclist could >>>>be even if he was trying. >>> Nope. The bicyclist would be doing 10mph and the conga line would be>>> that much longer.>> Only a driver so unskilled as to be unable to pass the bicyclist blocked >>the road. > If you're going to blame the driver by definition, there's nothing> more to say. Do you also blame the car BEHIND the head of the conga> line? So do you blame the driver who is scared of merging and screws up the traffic stream or the driver of the semi in the right lane that he is affraid of?
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Matthew Russotto 26 January 2005 01:34:16 [ permanent link ]
	In article <0MGdnQJE_fG1O2vcRVn-uQ@comcast.com>, Brent P <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote:>In article <studneiy6_u-82vcRVn-oQ@speakeasy.net>, Matthew Russotto wrote:>> If you're going to blame the driver by definition, there's nothing>> more to say. Do you also blame the car BEHIND the head of the conga>> line?> So do you blame the driver who is scared of merging and screws up the >traffic stream or the driver of the semi in the right lane that he is >affraid of? I blame the nearest bicyclist, of course.
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Guy Macon 26 January 2005 02:25:41 [ permanent link ]
	Matthew Russotto wrote:> Brent P wrote:> Matthew Russotto wrote:>> If you're going to blame the driver by definition, there's nothing>>> more to say. Do you also blame the car BEHIND the head of the conga>>> line?>> So do you blame the driver who is scared of merging and screws up the >>traffic stream or the driver of the semi in the right lane that he is >>affraid of? > I blame the nearest bicyclist, of course. I thought we agreed to blame all bicyclists.
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