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CarGuru > Open discussion > Switiching from Red Momo to Black Momo 21 March 2005 06:41:15

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Switiching from Red Momo to Black Momo

Joao Gonzalez 19 March 2005 14:32:46
 Hi,

My trusty Red Momo (Momo Force) is on its last legs, FF is twitchy and the
pedals are getting extra soft with the brake POT acting up.

As its hard to get replacement springs and POTS where I live and the FF will
probably break anyway, I bought a Black Momo (Momo Racing) yesterday.

My first impressions are not so great so I was wonderig if anyone has gone
through the same switch and can share some experiences.

The pedals have a much larger travel which should be a good thing. The FF
feel is much different, feels weaker somehow, can't really place my finger
on it.

My laptimes with it (I use it for N2003 Cup/TA and GTR) are slower (I guess
that's normal for the first few days) but it seems my consistency has
suffered much with it. I tend to spin often, probably because I'm
overdriving it.

In N2003 I use the Logitech Profiler with the specific tweaks for Papy games
that have been posted here so often. I assume they don't need changing?

Any thoughts/comments/s­uggestions much appreciated.

João Gonzalez


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Schooner 19 March 2005 16:15:53 permanent link ]
 www.digikey.com carries replacement kits for the Logitech wheels or at least
use to.

"Joao Gonzalez" <joaogonzalez@_remo­ve_sapo.pt> wrote in message
news:423c0bb4$0$189­6$a729d347@news.tele­pac.pt...> Hi,>
My trusty Red Momo (Momo Force) is on its last legs, FF is twitchy and the > pedals are getting extra soft with the brake POT acting up.>
As its hard to get replacement springs and POTS where I live and the FF > will probably break anyway, I bought a Black Momo (Momo Racing) yesterday.>
My first impressions are not so great so I was wonderig if anyone has gone > through the same switch and can share some experiences.>
The pedals have a much larger travel which should be a good thing. The FF > feel is much different, feels weaker somehow, can't really place my finger > on it.>
My laptimes with it (I use it for N2003 Cup/TA and GTR) are slower (I > guess that's normal for the first few days) but it seems my consistency > has suffered much with it. I tend to spin often, probably because I'm > overdriving it.>
In N2003 I use the Logitech Profiler with the specific tweaks for Papy > games that have been posted here so often. I assume they don't need > changing?>
Any thoughts/comments/s­uggestions much appreciated.>
João Gonzalez>


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Steve Simpson 19 March 2005 17:26:52 permanent link ]
 I switched about 6 months ago and I was slower for the first 3-4 days too
but then I started to get PBs mainly due to the better pedals I would say.
Maybe the wheel also needs a bit of time to break-in and loosen up a little.
The FF felt fairly similar I thought between the 2 wheels though the black
momo seems a bit more plasticy but not too bad.


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Joao Gonzalez 19 March 2005 22:39:23 permanent link ]
 
"Schooner" <schooner@accesswav­e.ca> wrote in message
news:ZJU_d.46097$ZO­2.11320@edtnps84...>­ www.digikey.com carries replacement kits for the Logitech wheels or at > least use to.>
"Joao Gonzalez" <joaogonzalez@_remo­ve_sapo.pt> wrote in message > news:423c0bb4$0$189­6$a729d347@news.tele­pac.pt...>> Hi,>>
My trusty Red Momo (Momo Force) is on its last legs, FF is twitchy and >> the pedals are getting extra soft with the brake POT acting up.>>
As its hard to get replacement springs and POTS where I live and the FF >> will probably break anyway, I bought a Black Momo (Momo Racing) >> yesterday.>>
My first impressions are not so great so I was wonderig if anyone has >> gone through the same switch and can share some experiences.>>
The pedals have a much larger travel which should be a good thing. The FF >> feel is much different, feels weaker somehow, can't really place my >> finger on it.>>
My laptimes with it (I use it for N2003 Cup/TA and GTR) are slower (I >> guess that's normal for the first few days) but it seems my consistency >> has suffered much with it. I tend to spin often, probably because I'm >> overdriving it.>>
In N2003 I use the Logitech Profiler with the specific tweaks for Papy >> games that have been posted here so often. I assume they don't need >> changing?>>
Any thoughts/comments/s­uggestions much appreciated.>>
João Gonzalez>>

They don't have them anymore but thanks anyway Schooner


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Joao Gonzalez 19 March 2005 22:42:44 permanent link ]
 
"Steve Simpson" <guest@anon.com> wrote in message
news:d1h995$hrd$1@d­omitilla.aioe.org...­>I switched about 6 months ago and I was slower for the first 3-4 days too> but then I started to get PBs mainly due to the better pedals I would say.> Maybe the wheel also needs a bit of time to break-in and loosen up a > little.> The FF felt fairly similar I thought between the 2 wheels though the black> momo seems a bit more plasticy but not too bad.>

Thanks, that's a relief to know...

I've been doing some more laps and its getting better. Appart from the pedal
travel, the main difference is steering response. Its much more responsive.
In N2003 you have to increase steering ratio for the same setup. Even in a
twisting track like Tris Rivieres you get the feeling that steering lock is
too high.






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Alan Le 21 March 2005 02:26:01 permanent link ]
 
I've been doing some more laps and its getting better. Appart from the
pedal> travel, the main difference is steering response. Its much more
responsive.> In N2003 you have to increase steering ratio for the same setup. Even in a> twisting track like Tris Rivieres you get the feeling that steering lock
too high.

IIRC, the MOMO Racing only has 240 degrees of rotation compared to the
Force's 270 degrees, so you're effectively getting a lower ratio just by
switching. It's only 15 degrees less each side, but it could be the reason.

Alan


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Steve Simpson 21 March 2005 06:41:15 permanent link ]
 
IIRC, the MOMO Racing only has 240 degrees of rotation compared to the> Force's 270 degrees, so you're effectively getting a lower ratio just by> switching. It's only 15 degrees less each side, but it could be the > reason.

Yeah, true, but I found that the optical system in the Racing made up for
the slightly lower rotation with it's slightly better precision.


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