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Clive 15 March 2005 15:02:28
 Couple of questions.

Loads of sites for GTR stuff, but basically all I want to do is upgrade to
latest version/patch.

I'm in UK - all the patches seem to be in German?

could anyone recommend a site for the patches (in English?) or how to
convert them

Thanks guys

btw I've been playing the Demo for a while and since installing the full
game I've got a GTR widow in the house ;-)­

Clive


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Ad 15 March 2005 15:25:19 [ permanent link ]
 It is already patched out of the box

AD
"Clive" <someone@nospam.com­> wrote in message
news:8hzZd.4623$QN1­.135@text.news.bluey­onder.co.uk...> Couple of questions.>
Loads of sites for GTR stuff, but basically all I want to do is upgrade to> latest version/patch.>
I'm in UK - all the patches seem to be in German?>
could anyone recommend a site for the patches (in English?) or how to> convert them>
Thanks guys>
btw I've been playing the Demo for a while and since installing the full> game I've got a GTR widow in the house ;-)­>
Clive>


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Steve Smith 15 March 2005 15:54:46 [ permanent link ]
 Why is it in German if you just got it in Blighty? The Eng ver is out now.

"Clive" <someone@nospam.com­> wrote in message
news:8hzZd.4623$QN1­.135@text.news.bluey­onder.co.uk...> Couple of questions.>
Loads of sites for GTR stuff, but basically all I want to do is upgrade to> latest version/patch.>
I'm in UK - all the patches seem to be in German?>
could anyone recommend a site for the patches (in English?) or how to> convert them>
Thanks guys>
btw I've been playing the Demo for a while and since installing the full> game I've got a GTR widow in the house ;-)­>
Clive>


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Steve Smith 15 March 2005 15:55:08 [ permanent link ]
 Not if it's the German ver.

"AD" <AD@fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4236c5f2$0$378­13$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp­-reader02.plus.net..­.> It is already patched out of the box>
"Clive" <someone@nospam.com­> wrote in message> news:8hzZd.4623$QN1­.135@text.news.bluey­onder.co.uk...> > Couple of questions.> >
Loads of sites for GTR stuff, but basically all I want to do is upgrade
latest version/patch.> >
I'm in UK - all the patches seem to be in German?> >
could anyone recommend a site for the patches (in English?) or how to> > convert them> >
Thanks guys> >
btw I've been playing the Demo for a while and since installing the full> > game I've got a GTR widow in the house ;-)­> >
Clive> >


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Ad 15 March 2005 17:48:02 [ permanent link ]
 My guess is that he has purchased the English version and due to reading
about the German version and the various patches fully expected to have to
patch his version as well.In looking for these non existent patches he has
come across the German ones.....and thus has posted hoping for the link to
the English ones....those that dont exist coz its patched out the box...like
i said....of course....i could have read his post totally wrong.....its easy
done Steve ;)

AD
"Steve Smith" <blowbackNOSPAM@roc­hester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:w2AZd.138039$n­C5.89004@twister.nyr­oc.rr.com...> Not if it's the German ver.>
"AD" <AD@fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message> news:4236c5f2$0$378­13$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp­-reader02.plus.net..­.> > It is already patched out of the box> >
"Clive" <someone@nospam.com­> wrote in message> > news:8hzZd.4623$QN1­.135@text.news.bluey­onder.co.uk...> > > Couple of questions.> > >
Loads of sites for GTR stuff, but basically all I want to do is
upgrade> to> > > latest version/patch.> > >
I'm in UK - all the patches seem to be in German?> > >
could anyone recommend a site for the patches (in English?) or how to> > > convert them> > >
Thanks guys> > >
btw I've been playing the Demo for a while and since installing the
full> > > game I've got a GTR widow in the house ;-)­> > >
Clive> > >


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Steve Smith 15 March 2005 21:36:22 [ permanent link ]
 You may be right.

"AD" <AD@fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4236e762$0$978­2$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-­reader02.plus.net...­> My guess is that he has purchased the English version and due to reading> about the German version and the various patches fully expected to have to> patch his version as well.In looking for these non existent patches he has> come across the German ones.....and thus has posted hoping for the link to> the English ones....those that dont exist coz its patched out the
box...like> i said....of course....i could have read his post totally wrong.....its
easy> done Steve ;)>
"Steve Smith" <blowbackNOSPAM@roc­hester.rr.com> wrote in message> news:w2AZd.138039$n­C5.89004@twister.nyr­oc.rr.com...> > Not if it's the German ver.> >
"AD" <AD@fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message> > news:4236c5f2$0$378­13$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp­-reader02.plus.net..­.> > > It is already patched out of the box> > >
"Clive" <someone@nospam.com­> wrote in message> > > news:8hzZd.4623$QN1­.135@text.news.bluey­onder.co.uk...> > > > Couple of questions.> > > >
Loads of sites for GTR stuff, but basically all I want to do is> upgrade> > to> > > > latest version/patch.> > > >
I'm in UK - all the patches seem to be in German?> > > >
could anyone recommend a site for the patches (in English?) or how
convert them> > > >
Thanks guys> > > >
btw I've been playing the Demo for a while and since installing the> full> > > > game I've got a GTR widow in the house ;-)­> > > >
Clive> > > >


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Clive 15 March 2005 21:59:01 [ permanent link ]
 
"Steve Smith" <blowbackNOSPAM@roc­hester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:a2AZd.138038$n­C5.20263@twister.nyr­oc.rr.com...> Why is it in German if you just got it in Blighty? The Eng ver is out > now.>
"Clive" <someone@nospam.com­> wrote in message> news:8hzZd.4623$QN1­.135@text.news.bluey­onder.co.uk...>> Couple of questions.>>
Loads of sites for GTR stuff, but basically all I want to do is upgrade >> to>> latest version/patch.>>
I'm in UK - all the patches seem to be in German?>>
could anyone recommend a site for the patches (in English?) or how to>> convert them>>
Thanks guys>>
btw I've been playing the Demo for a while and since installing the full>> game I've got a GTR widow in the house ;-)­>>
Clive>>
It's the English version. Only just noticed it's patched to 1.3

Thanks anyway guys. Logitech Wingman FF doesn't seem to work too well

Clive


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Steve Simpson 16 March 2005 01:09:57 [ permanent link ]
 
One-point-three is the latest ver. Yer LWFF *should* work just fine w. > it.

....unless you're using WinXP....LWFF+WinXP­+ISI engine+FF = slow framerate


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Clive 16 March 2005 01:17:23 [ permanent link ]
 
"Steve Smith" <blowbackNOSPAM@roc­hester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:%nGZd.79723$vK­5.64927@twister.nyro­c.rr.com...> One-point-three is the latest ver. Yer LWFF *should* work just fine w. > it.> What's the prob?

VERY sensitive in straight line, unless I turn down the FF amount

running XP SP2. Don' have a problem with Framerate (around 37).


Clive


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Dave Henrie 16 March 2005 07:25:27 [ permanent link ]
 "Clive" <someone@nospam.com­> wrote in
news:D­hIZd.4969$QN1­.1013@text.news.blue­yonder.co.uk:
"Steve Smith" <blowbackNOSPAM@roc­hester.rr.com> wrote in message > news:%nGZd.79723$vK­5.64927@twister.nyro­c.rr.com... >> One-point-three is the latest ver. Yer LWFF *should* work just fine >> w. it. What's the prob? >
VERY sensitive in straight line, unless I turn down the FF amount >
running XP SP2. Don' have a problem with Framerate (around 37). >
Clive >

I have xpsp2 and have run many isi products with FF and really don't
see any slowdown. I can get over 100fps with small fields and
average around 60 to 70 with a 36 car SCC mod field.(I'm aware that
GTR will impact my system more than that, but again, FF doesn't drag
down my system) Mirrors and Huds rob more fps than any FF)
Next...there are several things to do to ANY ISI based sim to improve
the driving.


First, because you have a Logitech product, make sure you are using
NEGATIVE FF values. THere should be a checkbox to reverse the slider
percentages from positive numbers to negative number.

now the whole enchilada.

Outside the sim. Logitech Profiler...set the steering axis to near 50%.
Slightly lower if you like less twitchy near the midpoint and over 50%
if you want a quicker response near the center, but less as you turn the
wheel to full lock.

Windows Game Controllers...Adjus­t the FF effects to around 95% to 100%
Spring Effect STrength to about the same. as FF. Damper Slider should be
very low..0% or 1 or 2% Centering Spring should be set to off or, if
checked on, set the percentage to a very low number. Right now I use
Centering spring on but only 1%.

Now in the program.
Set the steering axis, again like the Logitech Profiler, to 50%(adjust
to feel) Set the deadzones to ZERO Set Speed Sensitivity to near
zero.(this is a damper for high speed smoothness, but setup should fix
it.) In your car's setup, you have a steering ratio number. This is the
opposite of Papyrus settings. Since about Nascar 4, Papyrus changed the
setting so that the smaller the number, the quicker the steering. So
for PAPYRUS products, 12 is great for road racing, but near
uncontrollable on a Superspeedway, For those situations, you use high
numbers to dull the steering.
But for ISI stuff(and this includs GTR) you do the opposite. Low
percentages produce slow steering and make it difficult to complete
sharp turns(like pulling out of your garage.) the ISI F1 sims often
defaulted to a value of 22% which was very twitchy at high speeds. I
have run as low as 14%, but then I have to make several turns to exit
the garage without hitting the outside pitwall. Generally around 16
to 18% works great.

For best results, always calibrate your wheel in windows and also in
your sim before each new session.(not necessary, but it can't hurt.)

dave henrie

------ Washington State Govenor Gregoire, hundreds of dead King County
Voters can't be wrong!

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Steve Simpson 19 March 2005 11:01:31 [ permanent link ]
 
I have xpsp2 and have run many isi products with FF and really don't> see any slowdown. I can get over 100fps with small fields and> average around 60 to 70 with a 36 car SCC mod field.(I'm aware that> GTR will impact my system more than that, but again, FF doesn't drag> down my system) Mirrors and Huds rob more fps than any FF)> Next...there are several things to do to ANY ISI based sim to improve> the driving.>
First, because you have a Logitech product, make sure you are using> NEGATIVE FF values. THere should be a checkbox to reverse the slider> percentages from positive numbers to negative number.

Incorrect, Dave. The old LWFF is about the only Logitech wheel that doesn't
use negative values for FF in ISI games. It's also the only Logitech wheel
which has major frame rate issues in WinXP with FF enabled in ISI games.


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