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CarGuru > Open discussion > GTP Installation 30 March 2005 01:26:24

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GTP Installation

Timmy Ferrell 7 March 2005 00:17:04
 If anyone is planning on installing GTP, you may want to do an install over
a clean version on N 2003. I tried to install it with the other mods and it
didn;'t react well at all.
Timmy


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Dave Henrie 7 March 2005 00:27:33 permanent link ]
 "Timmy Ferrell" <tferrell@cinci.rr.­com> wrote in
news:4zJWd.10226$3t­3.9789@fe2.columbus.­rr.com:
If anyone is planning on installing GTP, you may want to do an install> over a clean version on N 2003. I tried to install it with the other> mods and it didn;'t react well at all.> Timmy >

I, being a lazy sot and not liking to be told what to do, did the
opposite. I installed over my working nr2k3 with tptcc, Ferrari 330 and
PWF and Busch mods and guess what...? It works and so far the tptcc mod
works too. (I haven't tested the others)
I would recomend tho...that you all follow Redline's advice and do a
clean install. Better safe than sorry eh?

dave henrie
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Bluestringer 7 March 2005 00:32:27 permanent link ]
 
"Dave Henrie" <daveBITEMEhenrie@c­omcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns96117F91160­0Cdavehenriecomcastn­et@216.196.97.136...­> "Timmy Ferrell" <tferrell@cinci.rr.­com> wrote in> news:4zJWd.10226$3t­3.9789@fe2.columbus.­rr.com:>
If anyone is planning on installing GTP, you may want to do an install> > over a clean version on N 2003. I tried to install it with the other> > mods and it didn;'t react well at all.> > Timmy> >


Did you do second install into another folder? I would like to keep my
other mods as is. Can I have 2 installs of N2003?

bluestringer


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Dave Henrie 7 March 2005 00:43:27 permanent link ]
 "bluestringer" <srvrules@strato.co­m> wrote in news:BLJWd.18798$%Y­4.6684
@bignews6.bellsouth­.net:
Did you do second install into another folder? I would like to keep my> other mods as is. Can I have 2 installs of N2003?>
bluestringer

Sure you can and THAT is the recomended method. Acording to the readme,
GTP likes a nice clean version of Nr2k3 to play with.

dh
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McEwena 7 March 2005 02:44:53 permanent link ]
 If not it gest one by buggering up your existing tarnished version.
GTP adnTPTCC now both hang after a 100 or so yards in the car...

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David G Fisher 7 March 2005 04:05:40 permanent link ]
 
"mcewena" <art.mcewen@moh.gov­.on.ca> wrote in message
news:1110149093.048­034.134920@l41g2000c­wc.googlegroups.com.­..> If not it gest one by buggering up your existing tarnished version.> GTP adnTPTCC now both hang after a 100 or so yards in the car...

I installed to my existing N2003 install, and now both GTP and N2003 shut
down after about a minute of driving.

I was lazy.
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David G Fisher



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David G Fisher 7 March 2005 06:35:37 permanent link ]
 
"David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
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"mcewena" <art.mcewen@moh.gov­.on.ca> wrote in message> news:1110149093.048­034.134920@l41g2000c­wc.googlegroups.com.­..> > If not it gest one by buggering up your existing tarnished version.> > GTP adnTPTCC now both hang after a 100 or so yards in the car...>
I installed to my existing N2003 install, and now both GTP and N2003 shut> down after about a minute of driving.>
I was lazy.> -- > David G Fisher

I re-installed N2003, and then did a second install to another folder just
for GTP. Still closes down before I finish a lap. Love the mod, but it's
been a huge pain in the a**. :-)­


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David G Fisher 7 March 2005 07:31:10 permanent link ]
 
"David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
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"David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message> news:9oadnf68Gr1TB7­bfRVn-jw@comcast.com­...> >
"mcewena" <art.mcewen@moh.gov­.on.ca> wrote in message> > news:1110149093.048­034.134920@l41g2000c­wc.googlegroups.com.­..> > > If not it gest one by buggering up your existing tarnished version.> > > GTP adnTPTCC now both hang after a 100 or so yards in the car...> >
I installed to my existing N2003 install, and now both GTP and N2003
shut> > down after about a minute of driving.> >
I was lazy.> > -- > > David G Fisher>
I re-installed N2003, and then did a second install to another folder just> for GTP. Still closes down before I finish a lap. Love the mod, but it's> been a huge pain in the a**. :-)­>
-- > David G Fisher

3d audio was on by default again. My fault for not checking it. Works fine
now.

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Larry 8 March 2005 22:51:06 permanent link ]
 I'll do without then.

I'm not wiping out my NR2003 install just for GTP. It takes too damned long
to build back up.

-Larry

"Timmy Ferrell" <tferrell@cinci.rr.­com> wrote in message
news:4zJWd.10226$3t­3.9789@fe2.columbus.­rr.com...> If anyone is planning on installing GTP, you may want to do an install
over> a clean version on N 2003. I tried to install it with the other mods and
didn;'t react well at all.> Timmy>


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Larry 8 March 2005 22:52:08 permanent link ]
 That I don't mind doing at all.

-Larry

"Dave Henrie" <daveBITEMEhenrie@c­omcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns96118217BCC­A6davehenriecomcastn­et@216.196.97.136...­> "bluestringer" <srvrules@strato.co­m> wrote in news:BLJWd.18798$%Y­4.6684> @bignews6.bellsouth­.net:>
Did you do second install into another folder? I would like to keep my> > other mods as is. Can I have 2 installs of N2003?> >
bluestringer>
Sure you can and THAT is the recomended method. Acording to the readme,> GTP likes a nice clean version of Nr2k3 to play with.>
dh


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Michael Staab 9 March 2005 03:03:35 permanent link ]
 Hi,

"Larry" wrote
I'll do without then.>
I'm not wiping out my NR2003 install just for GTP. It takes too damned > long> to build back up.

You don't have to. Just reinstall N2K3 using the setup.exe on the CD and DO
NOT INSTALL to the default directory (or whereever your original N2K3 is),
but to, for example C:P­apyrus\NASCAR 2003 GTP, patch this install and use it
for the GTP install. Works without any problems here, I have in fact 4
different N2K3 installs on my HD.

Greetings,

Michael


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Elrikk 9 March 2005 21:34:45 permanent link ]
 
"Darryl Johnson" <Darryl.Johnson@Sym­patico.ca> wrote in message
news:3lDXd.23775$JH­1.1024909@news20.bel­lglobal.com...> Larry wrote in news:FumXd.53743$7z­6.1955@lakeread04:>
I'll do without then.> >
I'm not wiping out my NR2003 install just for GTP. It takes too> damned long> > to build back up.> >
-Larry> >
"Timmy Ferrell" <tferrell@cinci.rr.­com> wrote in message> > news:4zJWd.10226$3t­3.9789@fe2.columbus.­rr.com...> >> If anyone is planning on installing GTP, you may want to do an> install> > over> >> a clean version on N 2003. I tried to install it with the other> mods and> > it> >> didn;'t react well at all.> >> Timmy> >>
Although I did a FULL backup of my N2K3 directory tree before trying> this, I just ignored the suggestion to use a fresh install, and I> installed the new GTP into my current N2K3 directory. The ONLY issue> I have found (so far) is that my NASCAR spotter now has a lovely> British accent. I only have the CTS and GNS mods installed any more,> so it may be that it was some of the other mods that caused the> problems resulting in the warning for the fresh install.>
While I do appreciate the fact that the creators of GTP very likely> had good reason to insist on a fresh install, I had seen a couple of> people claim to have done the install into their old N2K3 folders> without incident, and that's just like waving a red flag in front of> a bull: I HAD to try it. (As I saw, I did take precautions.)>
-- > Darryl

I did exactly the same thing . . . copied the whole nr2003 tree to another
drive and installed over the original one. No problems. :o)

Elrikk




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Larry 12 March 2005 05:22:01 permanent link ]
 Installed fine here.

Did a fresh secondary install of NR2003, updated, and installed GTP 1.1. No
issues.

Pay attention to what you're doing though. There are ample places along the
way to make yourself feel stupid :)­

I do laugh at the total lack of imagination these guys had though. Car A,
B, C and D ? Paleeease! At LEAST they could have come up with ficticious
names like:

Car-X (Think About it)
Humzda
Porscht
Cadiludicrous STS

And what's up with the Neutered version of Watkins Glen?

I sure hope they got a $50 rebate from the State Department Of Animal
Control for this Neuter-Job.

At least we can have any car color we want, as long as it's Green, Black or
Silver LOL

-Larry

"Timmy Ferrell" <tferrell@cinci.rr.­com> wrote in message
news:4zJWd.10226$3t­3.9789@fe2.columbus.­rr.com...> If anyone is planning on installing GTP, you may want to do an install > over a clean version on N 2003. I tried to install it with the other mods > and it didn;'t react well at all.> Timmy>


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Larry 12 March 2005 05:22:41 permanent link ]
 It actually _asked_ me to do this the first time I ran it.

-Larry

"Russell" <rwkeating-remove@c­omcast.net> wrote in message
news:oKudnSv9n4iEbL­HfRVn-qA@comcast.com­...> David G Fisher wrote:>> "David G Fisher" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message>> news:9oadnf68Gr1TB7­bfRVn-jw@comcast.com­...>>
"mcewena" <art.mcewen@moh.gov­.on.ca> wrote in message>>>news:1110­149093.048034.134920­@l41g2000cwc.googleg­roups.com...>>>
If not it gest one by buggering up your existing tarnished version.>>>>GTP adnTPTCC now both hang after a 100 or so yards in the car...>>>
I installed to my existing N2003 install, and now both GTP and N2003 shut>>>down after about a minute of driving.>>>
I was lazy.>>>-- >>>David G Fisher>>
I re-installed N2003, and then did a second install to another folder >> just>> for GTP. Still closes down before I finish a lap. Love the mod, but it's>> been a huge pain in the a**. :-)­>>
Make a new user profile. It said that in the readme (or someplace.) I > forgot to do it and it crashed as I drove out of the pits. Made a new > profile and it works fine. Hope that fixes it for you.>
Russell


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marc fredo via GamesKB.com 24 March 2005 08:12:39 permanent link ]
 I have tried hard for figure this mod out. Every step was taken not only
by me, but my business tech director as well. When we attempt the startup,
IT REBOOTS my ENTIRE system... Can anyone formulate a step by step to make
it easy to understand...Maybe someone like redline??? Why go through the
trouble to put something this exciting together, and then do such a poor
job of helping us enjoy it?

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marc fredo via GamesKB.com 24 March 2005 08:13:39 permanent link ]
 I have tried hard for figure this mod out. Every step was taken not only
by me, but my business tech director as well. When we attempt the startup,
IT REBOOTS my ENTIRE system... Can anyone formulate a step by step to make
it easy to understand...Maybe someone like redline??? Why go through the
trouble to put something this exciting together, and then do such a poor
job of helping us enjoy it?

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Dave Henrie 25 March 2005 05:44:55 permanent link ]
 "marc fredo via GamesKB.com" <forum@GamesKB.com>­ wrote in
news:f5bf2a866bfa46­23ba38b0fa643f8fb5@G­amesKB.com:
I have tried hard for figure this mod out. Every step was taken not> only by me, but my business tech director as well. When we attempt> the startup, IT REBOOTS my ENTIRE system... Can anyone formulate a> step by step to make it easy to understand...Maybe someone like> redline??? Why go through the trouble to put something this exciting> together, and then do such a poor job of helping us enjoy it?>


A: Install a new clean version of Nr2k3.
B: Install the patch for Nr2k3
C: Test the new patched version
D: install the mod, let it choose the pathway
E: Run Config.exe
F: All that probably won't work, so install the patch again, this time
inside the nr2k3 folder. You now will have two versions of the gtp mod,
the one inside nr2k3 should be the one that works. Run that config program
again, and then use the gtp launcher shortcut to start the program. Choose
a chassis, and choose day or night cars. Then fiddle with the various
options. Once you get it working, you can 'probably' delete the first
version of gtp.
Notice I am saying NOTHING about Vroc...that is even MORE confusing.

dave henrie
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Darryl Johnson 25 March 2005 20:11:29 permanent link ]
 Dave Henrie wrote in news:Xns9623B4ADEA6­3Bdavehenriecomcastn­et@
216.196.97.136:
"marc fredo via GamesKB.com" <forum@GamesKB.com>­ wrote in> news:f5bf2a866bfa46­23ba38b0fa643f8fb5@G­amesKB.com: >
I have tried hard for figure this mod out. Every step was taken
only by me, but my business tech director as well. When we
attempt>> the startup, IT REBOOTS my ENTIRE system... Can anyone formulate a>> step by step to make it easy to understand...Maybe someone like>> redline??? Why go through the trouble to put something this
exciting>> together, and then do such a poor job of helping us enjoy it?>>
A: Install a new clean version of Nr2k3. > B: Install the patch for Nr2k3> C: Test the new patched version> D: install the mod, let it choose the pathway> E: Run Config.exe> F: All that probably won't work, so install the patch again,
this time > inside the nr2k3 folder. You now will have two versions of the gtp
mod, > the one inside nr2k3 should be the one that works. Run that config
program > again, and then use the gtp launcher shortcut to start the program.
Choose > a chassis, and choose day or night cars. Then fiddle with the
various > options. Once you get it working, you can 'probably' delete the
first > version of gtp.> Notice I am saying NOTHING about Vroc...that is even MORE
confusing.>
dave henrie

Odd that the EULA for N2K3 says only one copy may be installed, and
then the FIRST-legitimised GTP requires a second install of N2K3.
Hmmmm.

So if FIRST says it OK, you can ignore the EULA, but if they don't
say it's OK, you have to respect the EULA. I thought it worked like
trade marks: you either deneded them or you let them lapse. There is
no halfway. Sometimes I wish I _was_ a lawyer. I'd love to have an
informed opinion on a lot of this stuff.

--
Darryl
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marc fredo via GamesKB.com 26 March 2005 04:06:38 permanent link ]
 Thank You Dave, I shall try those steps once I get home. If there are any
more bugs, I'll post another help message...Fingers crossed!

Thanks,

Marc Fredo

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marc fredo via GamesKB.com 26 March 2005 11:19:32 permanent link ]
 I was too optimistic Dave, it still crashes and reboots ANY 2nd
installation of 2k3. I discovered that when I followed your instruction to
"Test the patched version." It starts at the GTP launch, I choose a
profile, click Start, see the sierra animation, then just Boom! Back to the
reboot. Any thoughts???

Thanks,

Marc Fredo

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Guido Mielekamp 26 March 2005 12:06:03 permanent link ]
 Turn of automatic reboot first, and look what happens then. I had to add my
old player file in nascar to play gtp.
It can take some time to get everything running, but it's worth the trouble
;)
"marc fredo via GamesKB.com" <forum@GamesKB.com>­ schreef in bericht
news:986d72695cde48­37a9069fbc63dc16fe@G­amesKB.com...>I was too optimistic Dave, it still crashes and reboots ANY 2nd> installation of 2k3. I discovered that when I followed your instruction > to> "Test the patched version." It starts at the GTP launch, I choose a> profile, click Start, see the sierra animation, then just Boom! Back to > the> reboot. Any thoughts???>
Thanks,>
Marc Fredo>
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marc fredo via GamesKB.com 29 March 2005 00:25:18 permanent link ]
 From the range of experiences in this thread, it's obvious that there are
many, many issues, and questions about the proper installation and running
of this mod. Considering the level of excitement and anticipation many of
us had while waiting for it's release (and re-release), one would think the
creators of GTP would take an active role in supporting their creation, and
enhancing it's reputation. Can anyone say that this confusion, and
difficulty enhances anything positive? Why is there no active support role?

For 9 seasons, I've hosted a weekly racing show in the 9th largest U.S.
market, Atlanta, Georgia. Over the years, I give away plugs for anything
related to our racing addiction (helps if I get that allowance in writing
first!). If only this was only to be another like tptcc & OWR, the pit's
T/A, etc...
Those were easy however. This one's become a joke. From the looks of it,
I'm not the only one that feels this way. The last thing I can do is
recommend this hassle to other folks, especially if it harms other programs
on their systems, and especially, especially if I can get blamed for it!

Hopefully we can all get to the point of enjoying it as much as we
anticipated. From the little I have seen so far, shows great
promise...Right before it crashes to a reboot...over and over, and over....

Does anyone know why the support has up and scattered to the four winds?
What don't they want us to know?

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Dave Henrie 29 March 2005 09:27:51 permanent link ]
 "marc fredo via GamesKB.com" <forum@GamesKB.com>­ wrote in
news:47aa833a4a3b40­c28d2e5d9f58af62ea@G­amesKB.com:
Does anyone know why the support has up and scattered to the four winds?> What don't they want us to know?>

A project they have been working on for over a year got crippled. Would
YOU be energetic supporting something that barely resembles your original
effort?

dave henrie
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marc fredo via GamesKB.com 30 March 2005 01:26:24 permanent link ]
 Exactly. That's my point. We all know of their problems, but better to a)
Not release something clearly flawed, or,
b) Release it, detail the problems, and work with folks instead of
complaining with excuses about how their project was torn up. Hey, back
when this thing did work for 5 minutes, it was easy to see that it's a
tremendous project(why else would we all be complaining), but it's also
easy to see the obvious copyright infringments. We all screw up, but
better to make one's screw up right, than to whine about it.

Marc

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