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CarGuru > Open discussion > OT: Trying to reinstall my MS SW FF Pro wheel. Problems. 28 February 2005 17:56:27

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OT: Trying to reinstall my MS SW FF Pro wheel. Problems.

Pw 24 February 2005 10:14:56
 Hi,

I am trying to get back into NR2003 and am interested in the new EA
NASCAR sim.

I am running Windows 2000 Pro with Service Pack 4.

I plugged it back into a USB port and it got detected. I was asked to
insert the Sidewinder CD. I can't find it. Any way, I don't recall
needing it with Win2K SP4 (in fact, there are no drivers to be found
for it at the MS site).

So, just to make it happy, I found the two DLLs it was asking for
already installed on my system and pointed the install program to
them.

Well, now the controller appears to show up as a joystick and there
isn't the controller interface that I remember I used to use (FF
settings, etc....).

I tried to uninstall the device in the Game Controllers interface, but
it tells me I must use the Device Manager. Well, it isn't listed in
the Device Manager! It is listed as controller id 1 as a MS SW Force
Feedback Pro Wheel.

Maybe one DLL that I found was for the old SW FF Joystick I used to
use, and one was for the wheel?

Any way, does any one know how to get this wheel working?

And, will this wheel work in NSR?? If not, I may just end up getting
the MOMO FF Wheel.

Thanks!


-pw
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Pw 24 February 2005 20:41:21 permanent link ]
 
pw <***paulwilliamson@­***spamcop.net> wrote in message news:<7krq1119hchfo­lnn2oqrgc0u9g86lugl2­b@4ax.com>...>> Hi,>>
I am trying to get back into NR2003 and am interested in the new EA>> NASCAR sim.>>
I am running Windows 2000 Pro with Service Pack 4.>>
I plugged it back into a USB port and it got detected. I was asked to>> insert the Sidewinder CD. I can't find it. Any way, I don't recall>> needing it with Win2K SP4 (in fact, there are no drivers to be found>> for it at the MS site).>>
So, just to make it happy, I found the two DLLs it was asking for>> already installed on my system and pointed the install program to>> them.>>
Well, now the controller appears to show up as a joystick and there>> isn't the controller interface that I remember I used to use (FF>> settings, etc....).>>
I tried to uninstall the device in the Game Controllers interface, but>> it tells me I must use the Device Manager. Well, it isn't listed in>> the Device Manager! It is listed as controller id 1 as a MS SW Force>> Feedback Pro Wheel.>>
Maybe one DLL that I found was for the old SW FF Joystick I used to>> use, and one was for the wheel?>>
Any way, does any one know how to get this wheel working? >>
And, will this wheel work in NSR?? If not, I may just end up getting>> the MOMO FF Wheel.>>
Thanks!>>
-pw>> remove astericks (*) from e-mail address>> (use paulwilliamson at spamcop dot net)>
Hi Paul,>
Have you tried installing the Sidewinder Vers 4 software? It comes up>with a warning that it won't work when you try to install, but if you>ignore the warning and install anyway it should work fine I believe.>
Good luck!>
Ade.


Thanks! I can't find my CD and nothing at Microsoft's site. I seem
to remember a Sidewinder page but I did a Google and nothing is
showing up.

Guess it's time for a new wheel!

Thanks guys.


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Pw 24 February 2005 20:45:01 permanent link ]
 
Have you tried installing the Sidewinder Vers 4 software? It comes up>with a warning that it won't work when you try to install, but if you>ignore the warning and install anyway it should work fine I believe.>
Good luck!>
Ade.

Do you mean the Sidewinder Game Device Software for Windows 95 and 98?

That is all I can find at Microsoft's site.

Thanks


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Pw 25 February 2005 03:31:37 permanent link ]
 
PW I saw at windrivers.com I think it was, the installer.. for the latest >drivers (from the CD) you do have to install it. I even have it somewhere >zipped but on a drive no longer in a machine at the momement It wans that >big maybe 13 megs?>
IMHO that MS, is a Very good wheel, so if your going to get a new one >because you dont have the CD, Ill buy that one one from you :)­ I have my >buddy who wants one, and I have cd he can use.>

Thanks! I will check out windrivers.com. I will keep trying. I had
it working in Win2000 with NASCAR 2003 a couple of months ago! I
don't know what the heck Windows problem is. Perhaps because it's no
longer in the same USB port (?).

-paul

pw enlightened us with:>>> Have you tried installing the Sidewinder Vers 4 software? It comes up>>> with a warning that it won't work when you try to install, but if you>>> ignore the warning and install anyway it should work fine I believe.>>>
Good luck!>>>
Ade.>>
Do you mean the Sidewinder Game Device Software for Windows 95 and 98?>>
That is all I can find at Microsoft's site.>>
Thanks>>
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Pw 25 February 2005 03:33:51 permanent link ]
 
PW I saw at windrivers.com I think it was, the installer..

$30 a year? I will look elsewhere. I doubt I'd ever use that site
again.


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Pw 25 February 2005 09:50:48 permanent link ]
 
pw <***paulwilliamson@­***spamcop.net> wrote in message news:<7krq1119hchfo­lnn2oqrgc0u9g86lugl2­b@4ax.com>...>> Hi,>>
I am trying to get back into NR2003 and am interested in the new EA>> NASCAR sim.>>
I am running Windows 2000 Pro with Service Pack 4.>>
I plugged it back into a USB port and it got detected. I was asked to>> insert the Sidewinder CD. I can't find it. Any way, I don't recall>> needing it with Win2K SP4 (in fact, there are no drivers to be found>> for it at the MS site).>>
So, just to make it happy, I found the two DLLs it was asking for>> already installed on my system and pointed the install program to>> them.>>
Well, now the controller appears to show up as a joystick and there>> isn't the controller interface that I remember I used to use (FF>> settings, etc....).>>
I tried to uninstall the device in the Game Controllers interface, but>> it tells me I must use the Device Manager. Well, it isn't listed in>> the Device Manager! It is listed as controller id 1 as a MS SW Force>> Feedback Pro Wheel.>>
Maybe one DLL that I found was for the old SW FF Joystick I used to>> use, and one was for the wheel?>>
Any way, does any one know how to get this wheel working? >>
And, will this wheel work in NSR?? If not, I may just end up getting>> the MOMO FF Wheel.>>
Thanks!>>
-pw>> remove astericks (*) from e-mail address>> (use paulwilliamson at spamcop dot net)>
Hi Paul,>
Have you tried installing the Sidewinder Vers 4 software? It comes up>with a warning that it won't work when you try to install, but if you>ignore the warning and install anyway it should work fine I believe.>
Good luck!>
Ade.

Sidewinder Version 4 software does not exist, only 3.2 (which is for
95, 98, and Me).

Thanks.


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TechAde 25 February 2005 20:56:38 permanent link ]
 pw <***paulwilliamson@­***spamcop.net> wrote > Sidewinder Version 4 software does not exist, only 3.2 (which is for> 95, 98, and Me).>
Thanks.>
-pw

Yes it does, it came on CD with the USB versions of the wheel, but
it's not available for download.

Let me know if you can't find it and I'll see about zipping it up from
the CD and putting it online somewhere for you.

Ade.
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Plowboy 25 February 2005 21:47:48 permanent link ]
 Sorry at one TIme I knew a username and PW... let me see if I can get the
the install copied off off the cd to "not my" webspace... or something.
contact me via stingre (yes spelled right) from yahoo.
pw enlightened us with:>> PW I saw at windrivers.com I think it was, the installer..>
$30 a year? I will look elsewhere. I doubt I'd ever use that site> again.>
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Larry 25 February 2005 23:02:39 permanent link ]
 Microsoft, for some bizarre reason never explained by them for 5 years now,
never made version 4.0 downloadable.

And, in fact, there are _multiple_ verisons of 4.0. Each SideWinder USB
device came with it's own version of 4.0.

Nice hardware. Antiquited software and boneheaded support.

-Larry

"pw" <***paulwilliamson@­***spamcop.net> wrote in message
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Do you mean the Sidewinder Game Device Software for Windows 95 and 98?>
That is all I can find at Microsoft's site.>
Thanks>
-pw> remove astericks (*) from e-mail address> (use paulwilliamson at spamcop dot net)>
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Plowboy 25 February 2005 23:57:22 permanent link ]
 Larry are you sure (at least about the wheels)?

I am not positive but I have the non ff, and OK, it is different yes. but I
also have 2 black rubber ff wheels (version 1's), (actually lost one in a
move) and one Red rubber (aka version 2) these all 3 FF wheels seemed to
have the same SW.

I would be happy to burn the CD for PW, if he figures out how to contact me.
So again you PW adress a note to the one in thread, or stingre32 as the name
and send it to me at Hotmail. surely that is easy enough?

later gator

Larry enlightened us with:> Microsoft, for some bizarre reason never explained by them for 5> years now, never made version 4.0 downloadable.>
And, in fact, there are _multiple_ verisons of 4.0. Each SideWinder> USB device came with it's own version of 4.0.>
Nice hardware. Antiquited software and boneheaded support.>
-Larry>
"pw" <***paulwilliamson@­***spamcop.net> wrote in message> news:c01s115rsgn592­m6jq3pu8g3f4h37ph2ob­@4ax.com...>
Do you mean the Sidewinder Game Device Software for Windows 95 and>> 98? That is all I can find at Microsoft's site.>>
Thanks>>
-pw>> remove astericks (*) from e-mail address>> (use paulwilliamson at spamcop dot net)>>
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Larry 26 February 2005 02:45:37 permanent link ]
 The MSFFW 4.0 CD (without the MTM2 Installer) is 22.7MB Zipped.

-Larry

"Plowboy" <DoNotreply@nowhere­.com> wrote in message
news:BqLTd.11873$7z­6.6510@lakeread04...­> Larry are you sure (at least about the wheels)?>
I am not positive but I have the non ff, and OK, it is different yes. but > I also have 2 black rubber ff wheels (version 1's), (actually lost one in > a move) and one Red rubber (aka version 2) these all 3 FF wheels seemed to > have the same SW.>
I would be happy to burn the CD for PW, if he figures out how to contact > me. So again you PW adress a note to the one in thread, or stingre32 as > the name and send it to me at Hotmail. surely that is easy enough?>
later gator>
Larry enlightened us with:>> Microsoft, for some bizarre reason never explained by them for 5>> years now, never made version 4.0 downloadable.>>
And, in fact, there are _multiple_ verisons of 4.0. Each SideWinder>> USB device came with it's own version of 4.0.>>
Nice hardware. Antiquited software and boneheaded support.>>
-Larry>>
"pw" <***paulwilliamson@­***spamcop.net> wrote in message>> news:c01s115rsgn592­m6jq3pu8g3f4h37ph2ob­@4ax.com...>>
Do you mean the Sidewinder Game Device Software for Windows 95 and>>> 98? That is all I can find at Microsoft's site.>>>
Thanks>>>
-pw>>> remove astericks (*) from e-mail address>>> (use paulwilliamson at spamcop dot net)>>>
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Pw 26 February 2005 09:08:10 permanent link ]
 
pw <***paulwilliamson@­***spamcop.net> wrote >> Sidewinder Version 4 software does not exist, only 3.2 (which is for>> 95, 98, and Me).>>
Thanks.>>
-pw>
Yes it does, it came on CD with the USB versions of the wheel, but>it's not available for download.>
Let me know if you can't find it and I'll see about zipping it up from>the CD and putting it online somewhere for you.>
Ade.

Ade. - I am grateful to people like yourself and Plowboy.

I looked every where for that CD!!! Even in the box! I have no idea
where it could be, and how the heck I got it working in Win2K!

Thank you!

-paul
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Bob 26 February 2005 17:39:20 permanent link ]
 pw wrote:
...
I plugged it back into a USB port and it got detected. I was asked to> insert the Sidewinder CD. I can't find it. Any way, I don't recall> needing it with Win2K SP4 (in fact, there are no drivers to be found> for it at the MS site).

The reinstalled Win XP (motherboard and cpu upgrade) and didnt bother
with the Sidewinder CD or Sidewinder 4.0 or more likely I just forgot.
My MSFF (MS SW Force Feedback Wheel) is in my controller menu and
working fine. I use the separate axis for throttle and brake. I works
great in F1C, NR2003, NSR, and rFactor.

..Bob
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Pw 27 February 2005 08:38:03 permanent link ]
 
pw wrote:>...>
I plugged it back into a USB port and it got detected. I was asked to>> insert the Sidewinder CD. I can't find it. Any way, I don't recall>> needing it with Win2K SP4 (in fact, there are no drivers to be found>> for it at the MS site).>
The reinstalled Win XP (motherboard and cpu upgrade) and didnt bother >with the Sidewinder CD or Sidewinder 4.0 or more likely I just forgot. >My MSFF (MS SW Force Feedback Wheel) is in my controller menu and >working fine. I use the separate axis for throttle and brake. I works >great in F1C, NR2003, NSR, and rFactor.>
..Bob

I will try NR2003 and see if it works again. Thanks!


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Plowboy 28 February 2005 17:56:27 permanent link ]
 You got more mail again today PW. sorry I flubbed that zip up. I was gone
all day sunday.
pw enlightened us with:>> pw <***paulwilliamson@­***spamcop.net> wrote>>> Sidewinder Version 4 software does not exist, only 3.2 (which is for>>> 95, 98, and Me).>>>
Thanks.>>>
-pw>>
Yes it does, it came on CD with the USB versions of the wheel, but>> it's not available for download.>>
Let me know if you can't find it and I'll see about zipping it up>> from the CD and putting it online somewhere for you.>>
Ade.>
Ade. - I am grateful to people like yourself and Plowboy.>
I looked every where for that CD!!! Even in the box! I have no idea> where it could be, and how the heck I got it working in Win2K!>
Thank you!>
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