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Re: NSR

Guest 23 January 2005 07:33:40
 
JP wrote:> I *really* like the feel of the car so far. Feels much like a heavy
stock> car, instead of some kind of car, floating above the track surface
ala 03.> Bunch of little stuff I don't car for.>
But again, until it's seen what online is like, it doesn't much
matter.

How you can possibly entertain the thought of ditching the superlative
Nascar 2003 in favour of another pathetic attempt by EA at a Nascar
simulation is beyond me.

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Jp 23 January 2005 07:55:04 permanent link ]
 
<cr0n1k@hotmail.com­> wrote in message
news:1106451220.177­657.289120@c13g2000c­wb.googlegroups.com.­..>
JP wrote:> > I *really* like the feel of the car so far. Feels much like a heavy> stock> > car, instead of some kind of car, floating above the track surface> ala 03.> > Bunch of little stuff I don't car for.> >
But again, until it's seen what online is like, it doesn't much> matter.>
How you can possibly entertain the thought of ditching the superlative> Nascar 2003 in favour of another pathetic attempt by EA at a Nascar> simulation is beyond me.


<shrug> Interesting that it bothers you so much, considering you don't
work for Papy, etc.

Anyway, maybe I will, maybe not. Waaay to early to tell. Already like
some things better (because, gasp, they're done better), others I don't.
But unless the mp area is good, I couldn't care less about the good parts of
it.










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Michael R Sisson 23 January 2005 08:29:36 permanent link ]
 In article <1106451220.177657.­289120@c13g2000cwb.g­ooglegroups.com>,
cr0n1k@hotmail.com says...>
How you can possibly entertain the thought of ditching the superlative> Nascar 2003 in favour of another pathetic attempt by EA at a Nascar> simulation is beyond me.>

Keep your attentions focused on .action, low-grade.


MRSisson
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Jts 23 January 2005 17:08:47 permanent link ]
 Bill Bollinger wrote:> Long debate, but I agree with JP on this. NR2003's physics are too boring > for me. This one is fresh. It will boil down to quality of Multiplayer for > me too. If it is 80% as good as Papy most people will move to EA.

I hope it will be better than Papy, but based on the demo, its not even
close. Man, the demo really sucked IMO, especially graphics-wise. The
ugliest race game I've seen in sometime.
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Jp 23 January 2005 18:00:23 permanent link ]
 
"JTS" <JTS@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:sZudnR2zo6bYP2­7cRVn-gw@giganews.co­m...> Bill Bollinger wrote:> > Long debate, but I agree with JP on this. NR2003's physics are too
boring> > for me. This one is fresh. It will boil down to quality of Multiplayer
me too. If it is 80% as good as Papy most people will move to EA.>
I hope it will be better than Papy, but based on the demo, its not even> close. Man, the demo really sucked IMO, especially graphics-wise. The> ugliest race game I've seen in sometime.


Adjust your settings. Looks great, and my intitial impression was the
same as yours.


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Buck411 24 January 2005 22:37:39 permanent link ]
 Check your settings...



"JTS" <JTS@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:sZudnR2zo6bYP2­7cRVn-gw@giganews.co­m...> Bill Bollinger wrote:>> Long debate, but I agree with JP on this. NR2003's physics are too >> boring for me. This one is fresh. It will boil down to quality of >> Multiplayer for me too. If it is 80% as good as Papy most people will >> move to EA.>
I hope it will be better than Papy, but based on the demo, its not even > close. Man, the demo really sucked IMO, especially graphics-wise. The > ugliest race game I've seen in sometime.


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Tony Rickard 25 January 2005 02:18:03 permanent link ]
 "Jan Verschueren" wrote:
Par for the course as far as ISI based simulations go. The single player> driving experencience has always, hands down, eclipsed any Papy effort
since> GTR for F1 2002. Kaemmer hasn't matched it in any publicly available code> yet.

Perhaps I just chose the wrong tracks but I always found the AI in ISI sims
to be very dodgy. Too fast in some parts and hopelessly slow in others.

Add to that the zillions of tweaks to vehicle settings and controller
settings people have gone to get a resonable feel.

Admittedly you do say ISI based but I think the single player experience is
extremely subjective and that "always, hands down" should have an IMHO in
there somewhere.

I do hope Kaemmer does come up with the goods. The GPL engine has largely
gone to waste for road racing sim fans as the mods of NR2003 have been
tainted by the stock car base.

I read with interest Mark Beckman's comment on the GPL model being a fluke
and that for pure immersion for some is still the engine of choice, despite
the known issues, hence the mods in development. It falls in line with my
view that creating the fantasy of racing on a computer isn't just about
punching in real life physics figures but has a high degree of fudge.

All IMHO of course :)­

Cheers
Tony


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Charles Brennan 19 February 2005 10:14:36 permanent link ]
 No Pocono..no paintshop.....


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Larry 19 February 2005 12:19:53 permanent link ]
 The owners of Pocono are a weird bunch... Papy had the same issues with
them.

-Larry

"Charles Brennan" <chaspacop@verizon.­net> wrote in message
news:gPARd.25109$ya­6.7075@trndny01...> No Pocono..no paintshop.....>


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Timmy Ferrell 19 February 2005 12:35:27 permanent link ]
 
"Charles Brennan" <chaspacop@verizon.­net> wrote in message
news:gPARd.25109$ya­6.7075@trndny01...> No Pocono..no paintshop.....>
www.bhmotorsports.c­om has a version of Pocono. I believe it is from Nascar
Thunder but it works fine.


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Timmy Ferrell 19 February 2005 12:46:53 permanent link ]
 
"Charles Brennan" <chaspacop@verizon.­net> wrote in message
news:gPARd.25109$ya­6.7075@trndny01...> No Pocono..no paintshop.....
Kentcuky is not included either.


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Milo Johnson 21 February 2005 20:00:37 permanent link ]
 Can't seem to find pocono at BH motorsports!
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks MILO
"Timmy Ferrell" <tferrell@cinci.rr.­com> wrote in message
news:jTCRd.34339$XY­5.19607@fe2.columbus­.rr.com...>
"Charles Brennan" <chaspacop@verizon.­net> wrote in message > news:gPARd.25109$ya­6.7075@trndny01...>>­ No Pocono..no paintshop.....>>
www.bhmotorsports.c­om has a version of Pocono. I believe it is from Nascar > Thunder but it works fine.>


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Trinity 3 March 2005 04:50:14 permanent link ]
 Excitements already over I see. Next!
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Guest 3 March 2005 09:31:57 permanent link ]
 
Trinity wrote:> Excitements already over I see. Next!


How wrong you are, it has only just begun.

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Trinity 3 March 2005 10:41:13 permanent link ]
 On 2 Mar 2005 21:31:57 -0800, flightlessvacuum@ly­cos.com wrote:
Trinity wrote:>> Excitements already over I see. Next!>
How wrong you are, it has only just begun.

Huh? Someone hijacked my thread. I started this as a new thread titled
the same as this one and it ends up in here.

Anyway, how many new posts do you see about NSR? It's dead already.
NSR is nothing but NT 2004 with more bling-bling.
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Darus 3 March 2005 12:21:31 permanent link ]
 I wouldn't put too much stock in ANYTHING that "Flightless" adds to the
newsgroup.

Trinity wrote:> On 2 Mar 2005 21:31:57 -0800, flightlessvacuum@ly­cos.com wrote:>
Trinity wrote:> >> Excitements already over I see. Next!> >
How wrong you are, it has only just begun.>
Huh? Someone hijacked my thread. I started this as a new thread
titled> the same as this one and it ends up in here.>
Anyway, how many new posts do you see about NSR? It's dead already.> NSR is nothing but NT 2004 with more bling-bling.

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Trinity 3 March 2005 14:31:22 permanent link ]
 On 3 Mar 2005 00:21:31 -0800, "Darus" <ruskey@comcast.net­> wrote:
I wouldn't put too much stock in ANYTHING that "Flightless" adds to the>newsgroup.

Yea, I've seen his vapid posts before. I'm really curious how a new
post I made ended up in this thread though.

I've seen Linux people do weird things to posts before, like sending
out a cancel bot on my posts to a particular thread just because they
didn't like what I was saying.

Seriously, I made a new post that should have started a new thread
called NSR and it ends up in this RE:NSR thread. Strange.
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Trinity 3 March 2005 14:38:00 permanent link ]
 This thread shows in Free Agent as starting on 1/22/2005 as RE:NSR
I made a new post 3/2/2005 called NSR but it is appended to this
RE:NSR thread. Is that how you see it?
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TDRacin® 3 March 2005 15:31:44 permanent link ]
 That's how newsgroups work.


"Trinity" <three@here.invalid­> wrote in message
news:c4qd2196kh2lhu­ejhoqirj9p3qs3cstg23­@4ax.com...> This thread shows in Free Agent as starting on 1/22/2005 as RE:NSR> I made a new post 3/2/2005 called NSR but it is appended to this> RE:NSR thread. Is that how you see it?


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Steve Blankenship 3 March 2005 17:06:47 permanent link ]
 "Trinity" <three@here.invalid­> wrote in message
news:c4qd2196kh2lhu­ejhoqirj9p3qs3cstg23­@4ax.com...> This thread shows in Free Agent as starting on 1/22/2005 as RE:NSR> I made a new post 3/2/2005 called NSR but it is appended to this> RE:NSR thread. Is that how you see it?

Your dates? FWIW, the original show up here - maybe you just need to
upgrade to OE... ;-)­

SB


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Gil 3 March 2005 20:14:21 permanent link ]
 Enough of this already. I haven't seen any reduction in the online
community using N2003 so far. Keep in mind that EA doesn't really care
how many people play NSR online, only how many copies they SELL.

Since Papy is gone, it's the current Papy users that will determine the
direction that online racing takes.

Haven't seen any real change yet, and the serious (more than 2 nights
per week) drivers I have spoken with haven't seen any reason to switch
yet.

Gil

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Trinity 4 March 2005 03:20:22 permanent link ]
 On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 06:31:44 -0500, "TDRacin®"
<TDRacinnospamflash­mail.com> wrote:
That's how newsgroups work.

No it isn't. If I start a new post it starts a new thread and not
appends itself to an old thread. Maybe I pressed some key in Agent
that made it behave that way. It's happened before. :-)­
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Trinity 4 March 2005 03:23:28 permanent link ]
 On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 08:06:47 -0500, "Steve Blankenship"
<steveNOSPAMblanken­ship@comcast.net> wrote:

Your dates? FWIW, the original show up here - maybe you just need to>upgrade to OE... ;-)­>

I've been using Free Agent since 1993 and I ain't changing now. Maybe
I'll downgrade to X-News instead.
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TDRacin® 4 March 2005 07:04:24 permanent link ]
 uhhh, yeah it is. Try it. Don't tell me it isn't.


"Trinity" <three@here.invalid­> wrote in message
news:0r6f21l8qp5693­2fsqv9oa3krlrp227bfa­@4ax.com...> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 06:31:44 -0500, "TDRacin®"> <TDRacinnospamflash­mail.com> wrote:>
That's how newsgroups work.>
No it isn't. If I start a new post it starts a new thread and not> appends itself to an old thread. Maybe I pressed some key in Agent> that made it behave that way. It's happened before. :-)­


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Matthias Puch 4 March 2005 16:14:24 permanent link ]
 Trinity <three@here.invalid­> wrote:
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 06:31:44 -0500, "TDRacin®"><TDRaci­nnospamflashmail.com­> wrote:>
That's how newsgroups work.>
No it isn't. If I start a new post it starts a new thread and not>appends itself to an old thread. Maybe I pressed some key in Agent

Your post is a new thread. Check the full headers; if there is no
references: header available, as is the case in your post, the posting
starts a new thread. At least this is what the usenet standard says;
so most standard compliant newsreader *do* present you posting as a
start of a new thread.
that made it behave that way. It's happened before. :-)­

It's a Agent configuration thing. Somewhere in the options, it lets you
decide wether to arrange the threads by Subjects or if it should take
the only reasonable approach, namely threading by references.
Going the "thread by subject"-approach can and obviously will lead to
new threads being presented as a subthread of an already present thread
with the same subject. As has been demonstrated.
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