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Dave Plowman 23 April 2005 13:47:08
	Thought this might give a smile on a grey morning... My beloved E39 is no more !> It was with the dealer this morning to have a hose changed on the rad,> just looked old and perished.> HE has just called to say that there is a problem - apparently the car> started itself, in gear, drove across the yard and went on fire ???> It looks as if the fire started below the pollen filter on the right> hand side as you look rearward from the nose of the car.> I really have never heard of anything like this on an E39 before and> there has never been any electrical problems/faults/modifications with> the car. Dealers, eh? -- I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound.
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Adrian 23 April 2005 14:00:45 [ permanent link ]
	Dave Plowman (News) (dave@davenoise.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : HE has just called to say that there is a problem - apparently the car>> started itself, in gear, drove across the yard and went on fire ??? Yeh, right...
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JackH 23 April 2005 16:35:42 [ permanent link ]
	"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message news:4d600b6b3cdave@davenoise.co.uk...> Thought this might give a smile on a grey morning... My beloved E39 is no more ! It was with the dealer this morning to have a hose changed on the rad,> > just looked old and perished. HE has just called to say that there is a problem - apparently the car> > started itself, in gear, drove across the yard and went on fire ??? It looks as if the fire started below the pollen filter on the right> > hand side as you look rearward from the nose of the car. I really have never heard of anything like this on an E39 before and> > there has never been any electrical problems/faults/modifications with> > the car. Dealers, eh? Jesus... I trust you've advised them to do the dealer up the wrong 'un, without any Vaseline. -- JackH
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Andy Hewitt 23 April 2005 17:04:19 [ permanent link ]
	Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: Thought this might give a smile on a grey morning...> My beloved E39 is no more !> > It was with the dealer this morning to have a hose changed on the rad,> > just looked old and perished.> > HE has just called to say that there is a problem - apparently the car> > started itself, in gear, drove across the yard and went on fire ???> > It looks as if the fire started below the pollen filter on the right> > hand side as you look rearward from the nose of the car.> > I really have never heard of anything like this on an E39 before and> > there has never been any electrical problems/faults/modifications with> > the car.> Dealers, eh? Hmmm, in fairness, I have actually witnessed a car starting up all by iteslf with an electrical fault. -- Andy Hewitt ** FAF#1, (Ex-OSOS#5) - FJ1200 ABS Honda Civic: Windows free zone (Mac G5 Dual Processor) http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/thehewitts2/index.htm (updated Feb 21 2005)
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Chris Street 23 April 2005 17:06:07 [ permanent link ]
	On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:47:08 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Thought this might give a smile on a grey morning...> My beloved E39 is no more !>> It was with the dealer this morning to have a hose changed on the rad,>> just looked old and perished.>> HE has just called to say that there is a problem - apparently the car>> started itself, in gear, drove across the yard and went on fire ???>> It looks as if the fire started below the pollen filter on the right>> hand side as you look rearward from the nose of the car.>> I really have never heard of anything like this on an E39 before and>> there has never been any electrical problems/faults/modifications with>> the car. My desktop bulls**t meter just exploded. Please let us all know which dealer this is so we can avoid it until after the Second Coming is done with. Dealers, eh?
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Dave Plowman 23 April 2005 17:48:18 [ permanent link ]
	In article <1gvh5m5.1swkthlkp6ydN%hairy.biker@spamcop.net>, Andy Hewitt <hairy.biker@spamcop.net> wrote:> > Dealers, eh? Hmmm, in fairness, I have actually witnessed a car starting up all by> iteslf with an electrical fault. That would be more than one electrical fault, though, Andy? And then there's the question of the car selecting drive and releasing the handbrake... -- *Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine. Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound.
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Andy Hewitt 23 April 2005 19:16:32 [ permanent link ]
	Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: In article <1gvh5m5.1swkthlkp6ydN%hairy.biker@spamcop.net>,> Andy Hewitt <hairy.biker@spamcop.net> wrote:> > > Dealers, eh?> Hmmm, in fairness, I have actually witnessed a car starting up all by> > iteslf with an electrical fault.> That would be more than one electrical fault, though, Andy? And then> there's the question of the car selecting drive and releasing the> handbrake... Without know all the facts, it's hard to comment really, all I'm saying is, don't elliminate that it is impossible. I have also seen a car jump into drive and take itself through our workshop too. Maybe it's because I do work at a main dealer, but I do get pissed off with seeing people taking every opportunity to rubbish them. Accidents happen, and this kind of thing can happen to anyone, dealer or not. OK, the excuse may be crap, if it is an excuse. With a lot of modern cars being controlled by a single master computer now, it is certainly not inconceivable that this might happen. You could certainly have a major electrical fault that would start the engine up, and if it has an electronic gearbox it could also be set to drive. Indeed, had the main control box shorted and started to catch fire, it is quite possible that multiple circuits would have been affected. The fire could have been the trigger for the rest of it. -- Andy Hewitt ** FAF#1, (Ex-OSOS#5) - FJ1200 ABS Honda Civic: Windows free zone (Mac G5 Dual Processor) http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/thehewitts2/index.htm (updated Feb 21 2005)
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Huw 24 April 2005 22:06:54 [ permanent link ]
	"Andy Hewitt" <hairy.biker@spamcop.net> wrote in message news:1gvhbgf.1dwa40d1l7urdjN%hairy.biker@spamcop.net...> Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:> In article <1gvh5m5.1swkthlkp6ydN%hairy.biker@spamcop.net>,>> Andy Hewitt <hairy.biker@spamcop.net> wrote:>> > > Dealers, eh?>> Hmmm, in fairness, I have actually witnessed a car starting up all by>> > iteslf with an electrical fault.>> That would be more than one electrical fault, though, Andy? And then>> there's the question of the car selecting drive and releasing the>> handbrake...> Without know all the facts, it's hard to comment really, all I'm saying> is, don't elliminate that it is impossible. I have also seen a car jump> into drive and take itself through our workshop too.> Maybe it's because I do work at a main dealer, but I do get pissed off> with seeing people taking every opportunity to rubbish them. Accidents> happen, and this kind of thing can happen to anyone, dealer or not. OK,> the excuse may be crap, if it is an excuse.> With a lot of modern cars being controlled by a single master computer> now, it is certainly not inconceivable that this might happen. You could> certainly have a major electrical fault that would start the engine up,> and if it has an electronic gearbox it could also be set to drive.> Indeed, had the main control box shorted and started to catch fire, it> is quite possible that multiple circuits would have been affected. The> fire could have been the trigger for the rest of it.> I'll go along with that. I have seen vehicles start themselves in the middle of the night. In fact it is not really uncommon, as I have heard of several others and know of several vehicles that have caught fire unattended and secure with the ignition switch certainly off. Huw
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Andy Hewitt 24 April 2005 23:51:55 [ permanent link ]
	"Huw" <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: <Snipped Text> I'll go along with that. I have seen vehicles start themselves in the middle> of the night. In fact it is not really uncommon, as I have heard of several> others and know of several vehicles that have caught fire unattended and> secure with the ignition switch certainly off. Thanks Huw. Indeed, many modern handbrakes are pretty crap now too, so moving along is also possible. -- Andy Hewitt ** FAF#1, (Ex-OSOS#5) - FJ1200 ABS Honda Civic: Windows free zone (Mac G5 Dual Processor) http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/thehewitts2/index.htm (updated Feb 21 2005)
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Carl Bowman 25 April 2005 01:53:49 [ permanent link ]
	"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message news:4d600b6b3cdave@davenoise.co.uk...> Thought this might give a smile on a grey morning...> My beloved E39 is no more !> > It was with the dealer this morning to have a hose changed on the rad,> > just looked old and perished.> > HE has just called to say that there is a problem - apparently the car> > started itself, in gear, drove across the yard and went on fire ??? Did the vicar walk in just as this happened?
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Ian Johnston 25 April 2005 12:29:04 [ permanent link ]
	On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:47:08 UTC, "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote: : > HE has just called to say that there is a problem - apparently the car : > started itself, in gear, drove across the yard and went on fire ??? A problem indeed, but not the owner's ... Ian --
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