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what are todays version of lada?

Beerismygas 17 April 2005 18:20:37
 are there any budget manufacturers left? or has their market virtually
dissapeared in the years following the fall of communism? was this
because people in russia/eastern europe prefered second hand VWs or
renaults to new cars of eastern make?
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Ttt 17 April 2005 18:26:22 permanent link ]
 
"beerismygas" <beerismygas@yahoo.­com> wrote in message
news:d8f90366.05041­70620.656ae8bd@posti­ng.google.com...> are there any budget manufacturers left? or has their market virtually> dissapeared in the years following the fall of communism? was this> because people in russia/eastern europe prefered second hand VWs or> renaults to new cars of eastern make?


Korean - Kia, etc.


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Paul Giverin 17 April 2005 18:33:45 permanent link ]
 In message <d8f90366.050417062­0.656ae8bd@posting.g­oogle.com>,
beerismygas <beerismygas@yahoo.­com> writes>are there any budget manufacturers left?

I think the last one went into receivership last week :)­


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SimonJ 17 April 2005 18:48:06 permanent link ]
 Rover.


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Uno Hoo! 17 April 2005 18:48:24 permanent link ]
 
"beerismygas" <beerismygas@yahoo.­com> wrote in message
news:d8f90366.05041­70620.656ae8bd@posti­ng.google.com...> are there any budget manufacturers left? or has their market virtually> dissapeared in the years following the fall of communism? was this> because people in russia/eastern europe prefered second hand VWs or> renaults to new cars of eastern make?

I don't think Lada went out of business - they simply stopped importing them
because they didn't comply with emissions regulations and it would have been
too expensive to make them comply. In my poorer days I had two Ladas over a
period of nine years - hardly the height of technology but they went and
they served me well. Damned sight more reliable than the Vx Omega I had a
couple of cars ago!

Kev



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Woof 17 April 2005 19:49:13 permanent link ]
 On 17 Apr 2005 07:20:37 -0700, beerismygas@yahoo.c­om (beerismygas)
wrote:
are there any budget manufacturers left? or has their market virtually>dissapear­ed in the years following the fall of communism? was this>because people in russia/eastern europe prefered second hand VWs or>renaults to new cars of eastern make?

Skoda is now VW. Lada (and FSO) are still around. Theye pulled out
of the UK, but I know people abroad who just bought a new LPG Lada
Niva as a cheap runaround.

Even Zastava (Yugo) has risen from the ashes of the Baltic war!
http://www.zastava-­yugo.de
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Johannes 17 April 2005 20:23:18 permanent link ]
 

Woof wrote:>
On 17 Apr 2005 07:20:37 -0700, beerismygas@yahoo.c­om (beerismygas)> wrote:>
are there any budget manufacturers left? or has their market virtually> >dissapeared in the years following the fall of communism? was this> >because people in russia/eastern europe prefered second hand VWs or> >renaults to new cars of eastern make?>
Skoda is now VW. Lada (and FSO) are still around. Theye pulled out> of the UK, but I know people abroad who just bought a new LPG Lada> Niva as a cheap runaround.

Quite. GM now has a stake in Lada Niva. In fact I fail to remember
that any car maker has just imploded; a troubled car maker is usually
absorbed or collaborating with some other manufacturer.
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Stephen Hull 17 April 2005 22:11:49 permanent link ]
 In message <d8f90366.050417062­0.656ae8bd@posting.g­oogle.com>
beerismygas@yahoo.c­om (beerismygas) wrote:
are there any budget manufacturers left? or has their market virtually>dissapear­ed in the years following the fall of communism? was this>because people in russia/eastern europe prefered second hand VWs or>renaults to new cars of eastern make?

According to http://www.lada.co.­uk/ofinterest.htm the end of Lada was:

On Thursday, July 3rd 1997 MVI, the present Lada importers announced
that "No more new cars would be imported, but Lada owners, thought to
number about 100,000 will still get parts and service through UK
dealers. The difficulty in obtaining an American-made part to enable
Lada's to comply with EEC Emission Standards has meant that Russian
manufacturer AvtoVaz could no longer supply cars to the motor-vehicle
imports based at Carnaby near Bridlington". Auto distributors have now
taken over the franchise.

THE FUTURE!

Lada production continues in Russia at a rate of 1 car per 21 seconds
supplying the home market and Europe. New models in the pipeline with
AvtoVaz looking for support from Western giants like General Motors and
Fiat, the future doesn't look too bleak. The cars and their drivers
will be around for many years to come.



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Adam H 17 April 2005 23:56:01 permanent link ]
 
are there any budget manufacturers left? or has their market virtually> dissapeared in the years following the fall of communism? was this> because people in russia/eastern europe prefered second hand VWs or> renaults to new cars of eastern make?

No! Try looking in the freeads or ebay for cars made by proton or Perodua.
The downside to these cars is usually the handling and badges - the upside
is the reliability as they are based on older Daihatsu and Mitsubishi
models.

No-one said they were status transport but if relability and economy is what
you are after, you could do a lot worse....

Adam H


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Pete Smith 18 April 2005 00:29:28 permanent link ]
 In article <qp0561hijq560lnsrh­irquac507r0a2n4l@4ax­.com>, .@. says...> On 17 Apr 2005 07:20:37 -0700, beerismygas@yahoo.c­om (beerismygas)> wrote:>
are there any budget manufacturers left? or has their market virtually> >dissapeared in the years following the fall of communism? was this> >because people in russia/eastern europe prefered second hand VWs or> >renaults to new cars of eastern make?>
Skoda is now VW. Lada (and FSO) are still around. Theye pulled out> of the UK, but I know people abroad who just bought a new LPG Lada> Niva as a cheap runaround.>
Even Zastava (Yugo) has risen from the ashes of the Baltic war!> http://www.zastava-­yugo.de>

Holy crap! The "Yugo Koral" seems to be the same first car I had, "new" 20
years ago, 15 years out of date then, but with a spoiler on the front.

Remarkable.

They even seem to be selling the predecessor to the 41 (the old 5 or 311!)

Pete.

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Chris Bolus 19 April 2005 00:05:46 permanent link ]
 On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:23:18 GMT, Johannes
<johs@spamblock2siz­efitter.com> wrote:
Woof wrote:>>
On 17 Apr 2005 07:20:37 -0700, beerismygas@yahoo.c­om (beerismygas)>> wrote:>>
are there any budget manufacturers left? or has their market virtually>> >dissapeared in the years following the fall of communism? was this>> >because people in russia/eastern europe prefered second hand VWs or>> >renaults to new cars of eastern make?>>
Skoda is now VW. Lada (and FSO) are still around. Theye pulled out>> of the UK, but I know people abroad who just bought a new LPG Lada>> Niva as a cheap runaround.>
Quite. GM now has a stake in Lada Niva. In fact I fail to remember>that any car maker has just imploded; a troubled car maker is usually>absorbed or collaborating with some other manufacturer.

Except Rover of course...
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Adrian 19 April 2005 00:10:26 permanent link ]
 Chris Bolus (chris@FARINAb0lus.­com) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :
In fact I fail to remember that any car maker has just imploded; a >> troubled car maker is usually absorbed or collaborating with some other >> manufacturer.
Except Rover of course...

Mmmm. Who was the last one to actively disappear?

I can't think of one, either. Not a "biggie".

I'm sure we've not seen the last of the MG badge (again), and I wouldn't be
at all surprised if the Rover badge reappears somewhere down the line,
either.
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Nik&Andy 19 April 2005 12:37:53 permanent link ]
 "Adrian" <toomany2cvs@gmail.­com> wrote in message
news:Xns963CD7655F3­F5adrianachapmanfree­is@204.153.244.170..­.> Chris Bolus (chris@FARINAb0lus.­com) gurgled happily, sounding much like> they were saying :>
In fact I fail to remember that any car maker has just imploded; a>>> troubled car maker is usually absorbed or collaborating with some other>>> manufacturer.>
Except Rover of course...>
Mmmm. Who was the last one to actively disappear?>
I can't think of one, either. Not a "biggie".>
I'm sure we've not seen the last of the MG badge (again), and I wouldn't > be> at all surprised if the Rover badge reappears somewhere down the line,> either.

That's business, it's cheaper to let a manufacturer go down the pan and then
buy there name cheap than absorb them into your own company, problems and
all.

Andy


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Adrian 19 April 2005 12:54:11 permanent link ]
 Nik&Andy (nicola@adenleyremo­vethis.f9.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying :
In fact I fail to remember that any car maker has just imploded; a>>>> troubled car maker is usually absorbed or collaborating with some>>>> other manufacturer.
Except Rover of course...
Mmmm. Who was the last one to actively disappear?>>
I can't think of one, either. Not a "biggie".

Anybody?
I'm sure we've not seen the last of the MG badge (again), and I>> wouldn't be at all surprised if the Rover badge reappears somewhere down >> the line, either.
That's business, it's cheaper to let a manufacturer go down the pan> and then buy there name cheap than absorb them into your own company,> problems and all.

In Rover's case, no doubt, because of all the baggage. But why, then, did
BMW not do that? Why did Mercedes not do that with Chrysler? Or so many
other "rescue" mergers and acquisitions?
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