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Cigarette lighter adaptor problem
Bert Coules 16 April 2005 20:00:19
	I've searched around for the answer to this, but can't find it. Many apologies if it's a really basic question. I have an old model Suzuki Swift, T reg. Since the standard fitting is a radio/cassette, I bought a Goodmans portable CD player complete with "car kit": a dummy cassette which transfers the signal to the built-in system, and a PSU which plugs into the cigarette lighter. Unfortunately, after I removed the lighter (the first time I've ever touched it, ironically) and plugged in the adaptor, the radio refused to work: it's completely dead. I replaced the lighter and tried that, but no joy: that seems to be dead also. The car's handbook is completely silent on the subject of the radio's electrical system; am I right in thinking that it probably shares a fuse with the lighter? If so, where is it? The circuit isn't listed in the under-the-dashboard fusebox. Does that mean I have to remove the fascia(s) to get to the rear of the radio? Why, though, would plugging in the adaptor blow the fuse in the first place, if that is what's happened? Are these things generally reckoned to be a bit unreliable? Any thoughts and suggestions will be gratefully received. Bert http://www.bertcoules.co.uk
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Bert Coules 16 April 2005 20:06:23 [ permanent link ]
	I've searched around for the answer to this, but can't find it. Many apologies if it's a really basic question. I have an old model Suzuki Swift, T reg. Since the standard fitting is a radio/cassette, I bought a Goodmans portable CD player complete with "car kit": a dummy cassette which transfers the signal to the built-in system, and a PSU which plugs into the cigarette lighter. Unfortunately, after I removed the lighter (the first time I've ever touched it, ironically) and plugged in the adaptor, the radio refused to work: it's completely dead. I replaced the lighter and tried that, but no joy: that seems to be dead also. The car's handbook is completely silent on the subject of the radio's electrical system; am I right in thinking that it probably shares a fuse with the lighter? If so, where is it? The circuit isn't listed in the under-the-dashboard fusebox. Does that mean I have to remove the fascia(s) to get to the rear of the radio? Why, though, would plugging in the adaptor blow the fuse in the first place, if that is what's happened? Are these things generally reckoned to be a bit unreliable? Any thoughts and suggestions will be gratefully received. Bert http://www.bertcoules.co.uk
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Nik&Andy 16 April 2005 21:47:59 [ permanent link ]
	"Bert Coules" <mail@bertcoules.co.uk> wrote in message news:42613814$0$42295$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...> I've searched around for the answer to this, but can't find it. Many> apologies if it's a really basic question.> I have an old model Suzuki Swift, T reg. Since the standard fitting> is a radio/cassette, I bought a Goodmans portable CD player complete> with "car kit": a dummy cassette which transfers the signal to the> built-in system, and a PSU which plugs into the cigarette lighter.> Unfortunately, after I removed the lighter (the first time I've ever> touched it, ironically) and plugged in the adaptor, the radio refused> to work: it's completely dead. I replaced the lighter and tried that,> but no joy: that seems to be dead also.> The car's handbook is completely silent on the subject of the radio's> electrical system; am I right in thinking that it probably shares a> fuse with the lighter? If so, where is it? The circuit isn't listed> in the under-the-dashboard fusebox. Does that mean I have to remove> the fascia(s) to get to the rear of the radio?> Why, though, would plugging in the adaptor blow the fuse in the first> place, if that is what's happened? Are these things generally> reckoned to be a bit unreliable?> Any thoughts and suggestions will be gratefully received.> Bert> http://www.bertcoules.co.uk> I suspect you have blown a common fuse, more than likely caused by the power adapter having the wrong polarity set, I have seen this before (Cough Done this myself).... If you are going to use the power adapter a lot, I would hard wire it in on the radio circuit and fit it with a noise suppressor also. When I first got my Peugeot 406 off my father the cigar lighter socket didn't work, I replaced the fuse and it blew straight away. Upon further inspection, there was a 1penny piece in the bottom off it... Andy
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Derek 16 April 2005 21:57:15 [ permanent link ]
	"Bert Coules" <mail@bertcoules.co.uk> wrote in message news:42613814$0$42295$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...> I've searched around for the answer to this, but can't find it. Many> apologies if it's a really basic question.> I have an old model Suzuki Swift, T reg. Since the standard fitting> is a radio/cassette, I bought a Goodmans portable CD player complete> with "car kit": a dummy cassette which transfers the signal to the> built-in system, and a PSU which plugs into the cigarette lighter.> Unfortunately, after I removed the lighter (the first time I've ever> touched it, ironically) and plugged in the adaptor, the radio refused> to work: it's completely dead. I replaced the lighter and tried that,> but no joy: that seems to be dead also.> The car's handbook is completely silent on the subject of the radio's> electrical system; am I right in thinking that it probably shares a> fuse with the lighter? If so, where is it? The circuit isn't listed> in the under-the-dashboard fusebox. Does that mean I have to remove> the fascia(s) to get to the rear of the radio?> Why, though, would plugging in the adaptor blow the fuse in the first> place, if that is what's happened? Are these things generally> reckoned to be a bit unreliable?> Any thoughts and suggestions will be gratefully received.> Bert> http://www.bertcoules.co.uk> I'm not certain about the Swift but certain Japanese cars use a cig lighter with a fusible link attached to the lighter looks like a rubber coated wire between the spade terminal and the back of the unit if your car has had an aftermarket radio fitted it is usual to piggyback the feed off the cig lighter in the absence of a suitable wiring harness so either is a possibility. btw I enjoyed the Sherlock Holmes series on radio 4 immensely I hope more are in the offing Derek
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Bert Coules 16 April 2005 23:17:01 [ permanent link ]
	Nik&Andy wrote: I suspect you have blown a common fuse, more than likely caused by power adapter having the wrong polarity set, I have seen this before> (Cough Done this myself).... There's no provision for the user to change the polarity, so if it's wrong it must be a manufacturing fault. Possible, of course, but it seems slightly unlikely. I tried the cigarette lighter and that too isn't working. So a common fuse does seem likely. All I have to do is find it... If you are going to use the power adapter a lot, I would hard wire it in on> the radio circuit and fit it with a noise suppressor also. Annoyingly, I only tried it because it was included in the kit. I'm perfectly happy to use the CD player on battery power. Upon further inspection, there was a 1 penny piece in the bottom off it... Not in mine, alas. Thanks for the thoughts. Bert http://www.bertcoules.co.uk
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Bert Coules 16 April 2005 23:21:43 [ permanent link ]
	Derek, Thanks for the thoughts. Tomorrow I'll see if I can work out how to get the fascias off and have a good grub around. btw I enjoyed the Sherlock Holmes series on radio 4 immensely I> hope more are in the offing. Thanks very much. It looks as if the Beeb might commission a third series, but it's all a bit up in the air at the moment. When I know for sure, I'll put the details on my website. Bert http://www.bertcoules.co.uk
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Bert Coules 18 April 2005 16:54:20 [ permanent link ]
	I've solved the problem. The blown fuse was one marked ACC; easily replaced, at the expense of adopting a ludicrously undignified posture, doubtless to the amusement (or horror) of passers-by; why is the fuse box in such a ridiculous and inaccessible position? What might ACC stand for? As far as I could trace, the only things on that circuit are the radio and the cigarette-lighter. I still don't know just why the lighter-adaptor should have blown the fuse, but the short-term solution is obvious: I'll use the CD player's internal batteries. Incidentally, the cassette/CD adaptor works very nicely and seems to be an ideal low-budget solution to playing disks while retaining the existing radio/cassette player. Thanks to everyone who offered thoughts and advice. Bert http://www.bertcoules.co.uk
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Trevor Smith 18 April 2005 16:59:41 [ permanent link ]
	"Bert Coules" <mail@bertcoules.co.uk> wrote in message news:4263ae13$0$42288$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...> I've solved the problem. The blown fuse was one marked ACC; easily> replaced, at the expense of adopting a ludicrously undignified> posture, doubtless to the amusement (or horror) of passers-by; why is> the fuse box in such a ridiculous and inaccessible position?> What might ACC stand for? As far as I could trace, the only things on> that circuit are the radio and the cigarette-lighter.> It stands for Accessory
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Bert Coules 18 April 2005 17:04:16 [ permanent link ]
	Trevor Smith wrote: It stands for Accessory. Which of course makes perfect sense. Thanks. Bert http://www.bertcoules.co.uk
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