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Smoke of new brakes
Stewart Devereux 13 April 2005 21:49:43
	Today had a new set of front discs and pads fitted to my Ford Focus 1.8 TDDI at national Tyres. Got home 40 miles, and smoke coming from both sets of front discs/pads . Took about 5 mins to stop. Discs slightly black. Would this be normal with new pads - what caused it ?or should I worry and take them back and ask for replacements?? Help? -- Regards, Stu Devereux. Fax no. 08701339568 (Outside UK fax 448701339568) E-mail. stewart.devereux@btinternet.com
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MrGrumpy 13 April 2005 21:55:10 [ permanent link ]
	Return it PS did no one tell you about not using/posting real contact details on groups? Prepare for spam, you've been harvested! "Stewart Devereux" <stewart.devereux@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:d3jm3n$q4s$2@sparta.btinternet.com...> Today had a new set of front discs and pads fitted to my Ford Focus 1.8 TDDI> at national Tyres. Got home 40 miles, and smoke coming from both sets of> front discs/pads . Took about 5 mins to stop. Discs slightly black. Would> this be normal with new pads - what caused it ?or should I worry and take> them back and ask for replacements?? Help?> --> Regards,> Stu Devereux.> Fax no. 08701339568> (Outside UK fax 448701339568)> E-mail. stewart.devereux@btinternet.com>
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John Greystrong 13 April 2005 22:13:22 [ permanent link ]
	Stewart Devereux wrote: Today had a new set of front discs and pads fitted to my Ford Focus 1.8 TDDI> at national Tyres. Got home 40 miles, and smoke coming from both sets of> front discs/pads . Took about 5 mins to stop. Discs slightly black. Would> this be normal with new pads - Not at all. what caused it ? They've messed up with the fitting. or should I worry and take> them back and ask for replacements?? Help? I'm not sure I'd really want to drive it actually. John
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Mike G 13 April 2005 22:40:41 [ permanent link ]
	"Stewart Devereux" <stewart.devereux@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:d3jm3n$q4s$2@sparta.btinternet.com...> Today had a new set of front discs and pads fitted to my Ford Focus 1.8 TDDI> at national Tyres. Got home 40 miles, and smoke coming from both sets of> front discs/pads . Took about 5 mins to stop. Discs slightly black. Would> this be normal with new pads - what caused it ?or should I worry and take> them back and ask for replacements?? Help? Take it back. Driving carefully. Sounds like the pads may be cooked. Usually caused by using cheap aftermarket pads. Do you know what make pads were fitted? Unless you know what you're doing, my advice is to always fit genuine pads. In any case it's still down to National Tyres to sort out. Mike.
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Tom Burton 13 April 2005 22:52:59 [ permanent link ]
	. Took about 5 mins to stop. Wow, didn't you over shoot the driveway?
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Guest 14 April 2005 21:57:24 [ permanent link ]
	On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:40:41 +0100, "Mike G" <metier@lycos.co.uk> wrote: Sounds like the pads may be cooked. Usually caused by using cheap>aftermarket pads. Do you know what make pads were fitted?>Unless you know what you're doing, my advice is to always fit genuine pads.>In any case it's still down to National Tyres to sort out.>Mike. Can you elaborate please. Cooked? like how, what? What deficiency do cheapie replacement pads have? What do genuine pads have that t'others do not, etc? Ask there questions 'cos I had a helluva problem with binding disc brakes on a Suzuki. Locked up the wheel!! John Hewitt, Malaga, Spain
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Mike G 16 April 2005 15:02:26 [ permanent link ]
	<jhewitt@arrakis.es> wrote in message news:1113501453.42953c08666d5d1a2a894ba1a8967f50@teranews...> On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:40:41 +0100, "Mike G" <metier@lycos.co.uk>> wrote:> Sounds like the pads may be cooked. Usually caused by using cheap> >aftermarket pads. Do you know what make pads were fitted?> >Unless you know what you're doing, my advice is to always fit genuine pads.> >In any case it's still down to National Tyres to sort out.> >Mike.> Can you elaborate please. Cooked? like how, what? The presence of smoke, suggests the brakes are overheating, and the pads are burning. Burning produces carbon, which on the surface of the pad, results in almost a total loss of brakes. What deficiency do cheapie replacement pads have?> What do genuine pads have that t'others do not, etc? Manufacturers design braking system as a package. Disc material, matching brake pad material for optimum performance etc. Aftermarket pads may be made of a different material. Maybe giving better braking, at the expense of increased disc wear. Working better at higher temperature etc. There's usually nothing wrong with pattern pads from a reputable manufacturer. There's every chance that they'll be as good a the OE ones. OTOH, you could be taking a chance with an obscure cheaper make, that may not be compatible with the disc material, which could 'cook' under heavy braking. Ask there questions 'cos I had a helluva problem with binding disc> brakes on a Suzuki. Locked up the wheel!! More likely to be a mechanical problem IMO. Sticking caliper, snatching pads etc. I doubt the pad material is responsible. Mike.
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Dave Plowman 16 April 2005 16:21:15 [ permanent link ]
	In article <d3jm3n$q4s$2@sparta.btinternet.com>, Stewart Devereux <stewart.devereux@btinternet.com> wrote:> Today had a new set of front discs and pads fitted to my Ford Focus 1.8> TDDI at national Tyres. Got home 40 miles, and smoke coming from both> sets of front discs/pads . Took about 5 mins to stop. Discs slightly> black. Would this be normal with new pads - what caused it ?or should I> worry and take them back and ask for replacements?? Help? No it's not normal. Sounds like the calipers have seized. -- *Why is the third hand on the watch called a second hand? Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound.
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