Would a old transport cafe not be a more suitable location as they>> would be out of sight and out of town - with the result the police>> might adopt a less aggressive approach to them .>

Yes indeed - could only have come from the ravaged brain of a druggie!>

So rather like country pubs with car parks?

There is a distinct difference. Many people, like me, do not drink to>> get drunk. Also, you can visit a country pub, and have an enjoyable>> drink and/or meal without any use of alcohol.>

By contrast the whole point of taking cannabis is to get high. I>> don't think I've ever heard the argument that people take cannabis>> because they enjoy the taste!>

There is a distinct difference. Many people, like me, do not drink to>> get drunk.>

Also, you can visit a country pub, and have an enjoyable>> drink and/or meal without any use of alcohol. By contrast the whole>> point of taking cannabis is to get high.>

I don't think I've ever heard the argument that people take cannabis>> because they enjoy the taste!>

It wouldn't be alright at all because often the only means of getting>> to the country pub is by car and if, while there, you take drugs to>> get high then you would not be fit to drive home.>

I'm not sure that I follow your there at all. What are you>> suggesting? That people only drink beer or wine to get drunk? If so>> then I would say that you are talking out of your backside.>

Who am I thinking for then?>

Yes indeed - could only have come from the ravaged brain of a>> druggie!>

So rather like country pubs with car parks?>

Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one. I drink because I>> like the taste and because I am thirsty - I do not drink for any after>> effect. Believe it or not.> ...>> Well, that's your opinion but I dispute it on the grounds that I have>> covered many times before. The sole point of cannabis and other illegal>> drugs is to get high. Alcohol can be used in moderation purely for its> taste>> and without any need for intoxication. *That* is the difference and that> is>> my argument. You may well disagree with my and that is your prerogative.>

Then the difference is merely cultural. How would it be if the country > > pub sold reefers?>

It wouldn't be alright at all because often the only means of getting> > to the country pub is by car and if, while there, you take drugs to> > get high then you would not be fit to drive home.>

However, there's no reason why sensible people couldn't visit a country> > cannabis cafe and have a nominated driver who doesn't partake. Same as> > sensible people do when visiting a nice country pub.>

Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one. I drink>> because I like the taste and because I am thirsty - I do not drink>> for any after effect. Believe it or not.>

Alcohol can be used in moderation purely for its taste>> and without any need for intoxication.>>

What do you think of binge drinkers ? .>

Well, so you argue and I am unable to dispute it. I still maintain, >> however,>> that there is a dramatic difference between having a glass of wine with a>> meal because you enjoy the taste of the wine, and using cannabis, not>> because you like the taste, but purely because you want to get high.>>

Can you equate cannabis taker with 'sensible'?>>

Yes indeed - could only have come from the ravaged brain of a druggie!>

You mention the word "high" quite a few times - would you care to give> > your definition of what high is ? .>

Compared to who ? .>

I think they are sad and pathetic quite frankly!>>

I use the word 'high' because it is a term that is generally used to >> denote>> the form of intoxication derived from drug use rather than alcohol use >> (yes>> I know that will argue that alcohol is a drug as well). I have never >> taken a>> controlled drug in my life and so have no personal idea of how to >> describe>> the effect (and yes, I realise you will state now state that I am poorly>> placed to criticise something that I have not tried - but I don't need to>> practise paedophilia to know that it is wrong).>>

I think they are sad and pathetic quite frankly!>

With a none cannabis taker?>>

What do you think of people who use cannabis in moderation in the same> > way you use alcohol in moderation .>

Can you be a bit more specific .>

If you wish. Using cannabis is against the law. By using it you risk>> prosecution. That is not a sensible thing to do. Ergo there is no>> such thing as a sensible cannabis user.>

Yes indeed - could only have come from the ravaged brain of a druggie!>

Then the difference is merely cultural. How would it be if the country >> pub sold reefers?>

I would say that the main difference between alcohol and cannabis is that >> it has been drummed into you that drug use is bad and, therefore, any >> argument that comes from somebody who supports drug use must also be bad. >> Lets face it - those of us who are regulars on uk.rec.cars.misc do know >> that you have a long history of being unable to think for yourself.>

You mention the word "high" quite a few times - would you care to give>> your definition of what high is ? .>

Basically your arguement boils down to; "Alcohol should be legal because >> lots of people like it, but cannabis shouldn't be legal because I don't >> like it and I don't like the idea of people taking a drug purely for its >> narcotic effect".>>

That's a pretty poor argument, really.>

It wouldn't be alright at all because often the only means of getting>> to the country pub is by car and if, while there, you take drugs to>> get high then you would not be fit to drive home.>>

I think they are sad and pathetic quite frankly!>

Obviously I'm poorly place to argue the whys and wherefores of your >> personal alcohol consumption, but I would say it's irrelevant to the >> argument, because you can not generalise from self and apply your drinking >> principles to the whole of society.>>

Alcohol my well have a history of being a social drug and of encouraging >> connoisseurs, but that is unrelated to the physiological effects of the >> drug and its long-term health implications.>>

Basically your arguement boils down to; "Alcohol should be legal because >> lots of people like it, but cannabis shouldn't be legal because I don't >> like it and I don't like the idea of people taking a drug purely for its >> narcotic effect".>>

That's a pretty poor argument, really.>