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Traditional Roadside (greasy spoon) Cafe?

Jeremy Hammond 28 April 2005 19:28:44
 I am looking for a Traditional Roadside (greasy spoon) Cafe in
Hampshire. But can't find one. Can anyone recommend one? I want the
atmos of such a place, the Little Chief isn't the same.

Thanks

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AstraVanMan 28 April 2005 20:15:16 permanent link ]
 
I am looking for a Traditional Roadside (greasy spoon) Cafe in> Hampshire. But can't find one. Can anyone recommend one? I want the> atmos of such a place, the Little Chief isn't the same.

Hampshire's a big place. There's one on the A30 between Hartley Wintney and
Hook (I think - might be between Hook and Basingstoke). I went there once.
Couldn't be of any further help though.

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Graham Harrison 29 April 2005 00:39:43 permanent link ]
 
"Jeremy Hammond" <spam_trashcan@uk2.­net> wrote in message
news:1114702124.445­840.251450@o13g2000c­wo.googlegroups.com.­..>I am looking for a Traditional Roadside (greasy spoon) Cafe in> Hampshire. But can't find one. Can anyone recommend one? I want the> atmos of such a place, the Little Chief isn't the same.>
Thanks>

If you're in the northern end of Hampshire and prepared to cross the border
to Berkshire there are 2 on the A4 Colnbrook by-pass near Heathrow.

http://www.transpor­tcafe.co.uk/cafelist­.html might help. Appears there is
one near M3 J5


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Tosspot 29 April 2005 01:10:32 permanent link ]
 Jeremy Hammond wrote:> I am looking for a Traditional Roadside (greasy spoon) Cafe in> Hampshire. But can't find one. Can anyone recommend one? I want the> atmos of such a place, the Little Chief isn't the same.

Devils Punchbowl?
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Sor 29 April 2005 06:19:07 permanent link ]
 <uk.rec.cars.misc , Conor , conor.turton@gmail.­com>
<MPG.1cdb165a8416d6­e49899d2@news.indivi­dual.net>
<Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:49:15 +0100>
I am looking for a Traditional Roadside (greasy spoon) Cafe in> > Hampshire. But can't find one. Can anyone recommend one? I want the> > atmos of such a place, the Little Chief isn't the same.> >
No such places exist anymore. Joe Public found them distasteful,>

Many years ago - mum dad and three kids on holiday (I was one of the
kids) traveling from glasgow to blackpool for the summer holidays
stopped at a greasy spoon .

Dad and two sons went into the greasy spoon and had a good fry up -
while mum and sister refused point blank to step foot in the place and
stayed in the car .

Just a little story from my yoof your comment reminded me of :-)­


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Mark Hewitt 29 April 2005 11:30:02 permanent link ]
 
"Conor" <conor.turton@gmail­.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cdb165a84­16d6e49899d2@news.in­dividual.net...>
No such places exist anymore. Joe Public found them distasteful, the> anti HGV NIMBYS also piled in so local councils throughout the UK are> doing all they can to get them shut down. Quite where we're supposed to> park up now I don't know.

I've no doubt what you are saying is true.. however do the new food safety
regulations have anything to do with it? Not saying there was anything wrong
with what they are doing but some of the regs can be rediculously strict,
I've no doubt a roadside greasy spoon would have trouble meeting the cost of
improvements.


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Nightjar 29 April 2005 11:41:38 permanent link ]
 
"Jeremy Hammond" <spam_trashcan@uk2.­net> wrote in message
news:1114702124.445­840.251450@o13g2000c­wo.googlegroups.com.­..>I am looking for a Traditional Roadside (greasy spoon) Cafe in> Hampshire. But can't find one. Can anyone recommend one? I want the> atmos of such a place, the Little Chief isn't the same.

I've not been inside to check the atmosphere, but, if you are willing to
travel a bit, there is one on the A264 to the west of Crawley in West
Sussex.

Colin Bignell


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Nightjar 29 April 2005 11:49:28 permanent link ]
 
"Conor" <conor.turton@gmail­.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cdb165a84­16d6e49899d2@news.in­dividual.net...> In article <1114702124.445840.­251450@o13g2000cwo.g­ooglegroups.com>,> Jeremy Hammond says...>> I am looking for a Traditional Roadside (greasy spoon) Cafe in>> Hampshire. But can't find one. Can anyone recommend one? I want the>> atmos of such a place, the Little Chief isn't the same.>>
No such places exist anymore. Joe Public found them distasteful, the> anti HGV NIMBYS also piled in so local councils throughout the UK are> doing all they can to get them shut down. Quite where we're supposed to> park up now I don't know.

I never was keen on teaspoons chained to the table, but I suspect that their
demise has a lot to do with the fact that lorries now move faster and
farther than they used to between the wars, which seems to have been when
many were set up. That and the growth of motorways, taking lorries off
traditional routes and providing service areas, means that there just isn't
the business around to keep them going.

Colin Bignell


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Dave Plowman 1 May 2005 15:14:23 permanent link ]
 In article <MPG.1cddb029d60d87­54989a08@news.indivi­dual.net>,
Conor <conor.turton@gmail­.com> wrote:> > > > A 15 hour working day is illegal.> >
No its not.> >
Working 15 hours a day *driving* a truck is illegal.> >
No its not. WORKING time, not DRIVING time.

Ah. So you're including rest periods?
11 hours daily rest which can be reduced to 9 hours 3 times a week. > Don't know where you went to school but 24-9=15 where I went. In > addition then there's the split daily rest where the final rest period > can be no less than 8 hours meaning in effect a 16 hour working day.

Your idea of working tends to differ from mine.

Just how many hours do you actually work a week excluding breaks? I'm not
in favour of what is effectively split shifts, but they're not illegal.

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Conor 1 May 2005 15:44:22 permanent link ]
 In article <4d64321773dave@dav­enoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News)
says...> In article <MPG.1cddb029d60d87­54989a08@news.indivi­dual.net>,> Conor <conor.turton@gmail­.com> wrote:> > > > > A 15 hour working day is illegal.> > >
No its not.> > >
Working 15 hours a day *driving* a truck is illegal.> > >
No its not. WORKING time, not DRIVING time.>
Ah. So you're including rest periods?>
Yup. When referring to the working day in haulage, you refer to the
duty time, i.e the time from when you start until you pull the chart.
11 hours daily rest which can be reduced to 9 hours 3 times a week. > > Don't know where you went to school but 24-9=15 where I went. In > > addition then there's the split daily rest where the final rest period > > can be no less than 8 hours meaning in effect a 16 hour working day.>
Your idea of working tends to differ from mine.>
Its called DUTY time.
Just how many hours do you actually work a week excluding breaks? I'm not> in favour of what is effectively split shifts, but they're not illegal.>
Depends. Part timing at the moment but fulltime could be up to 84
hours.

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Conor

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Dave Plowman 1 May 2005 16:36:17 permanent link ]
 In article <MPG.1cded171656143­1b989a3b@news.indivi­dual.net>,
Conor <conor.turton@gmail­.com> wrote:> > Ah. So you're including rest periods?> >
Yup. When referring to the working day in haulage, you refer to the > duty time, i.e the time from when you start until you pull the chart.

Ah. Right. I'm in the wrong industry then because my break, ie lunch,
isn't paid.
11 hours daily rest which can be reduced to 9 hours 3 times a week.> > > Don't know where you went to school but 24-9=15 where I went. In> > > addition then there's the split daily rest where the final rest> > > period can be no less than 8 hours meaning in effect a 16 hour> > > working day.> >
Your idea of working tends to differ from mine.> >
Its called DUTY time.

Then that would apply to anyone's lunch break. Or others working split
shifts. So perhaps you're not so hard done by as you say? ;-)­
Just how many hours do you actually work a week excluding breaks? I'm> > not in favour of what is effectively split shifts, but they're not> > illegal.> >
Depends. Part timing at the moment but fulltime could be up to 84 hours.

And what is the maximum you're actually allowed to be driving?

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Brimstone 1 May 2005 17:11:04 permanent link ]
 Dave Plowman (News) wrote:> In article <MPG.1cded171656143­1b989a3b@news.indivi­dual.net>,> Conor <conor.turton@gmail­.com> wrote:>>> Ah. So you're including rest periods?>>>
Yup. When referring to the working day in haulage, you refer to the>> duty time, i.e the time from when you start until you pull the chart.>
Ah. Right. I'm in the wrong industry then because my break, ie lunch,> isn't paid.

There a very few industries where it is. However don't overlook the fact
that someone who is employed in a fixed location (office factory etc) can
(if circumstances permit) go home for lunch or do as they like. People
working in transport often have to take their breaks a long way from their
base, especially if away for several days at a time.
11 hours daily rest which can be reduced to 9 hours 3 times a week.>>>> Don't know where you went to school but 24-9=15 where I went. In>>>> addition then there's the split daily rest where the final rest>>>> period can be no less than 8 hours meaning in effect a 16 hour>>>> working day.>>>
Your idea of working tends to differ from mine.>>>
Its called DUTY time.>
Then that would apply to anyone's lunch break. Or others working split> shifts. So perhaps you're not so hard done by as you say? ;-)­

In most industries one's lunch break isn't time considered to be on duty,
nor is time in the middle of a split shift.

Just how many hours do you actually work a week excluding breaks?>>> I'm not in favour of what is effectively split shifts, but they're>>> not illegal.>>>
Depends. Part timing at the moment but fulltime could be up to 84>> hours.>
And what is the maximum you're actually allowed to be driving?


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Dave Plowman 1 May 2005 17:32:43 permanent link ]
 In article <Iz4de.10785$wu2.10­448@newsfe1-gui.ntli­.net>,
Brimstone <brimstone@hotmail.­com> wrote:> > Ah. Right. I'm in the wrong industry then because my break, ie lunch,> > isn't paid.
There a very few industries where it is. However don't overlook the fact> that someone who is employed in a fixed location (office factory etc)> can (if circumstances permit) go home for lunch or do as they like.> People working in transport often have to take their breaks a long way> from their base, especially if away for several days at a time.

Same with me if working on location away from home. But my off duty times
aren't paid for even where it isn't possible to get home. I'd daresay the
same applies to air crew, etc. Train drivers. Long distance bus drivers.
Commercial travellers. Etc etc.

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Knight Of The Road 1 May 2005 20:21:07 permanent link ]
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.­uk> wrote

Thing is I'd not feel happy actually driving a truck all my working >> hours.> All to easy to fall asleep.






If I feel tired I just stop somewhere and go back to bed, and that's not
something everyone can do at work.



--
Vince

Truck Driving In Russia- www.coventon.co.uk


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Dave Plowman 1 May 2005 21:45:07 permanent link ]
 In article <d52vli$3cd$1@nwrdm­z02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-i­nfra.bt.com>,
Knight Of The Road <russiatrucking@hot­mail.com> wrote:>> Thing is I'd not feel happy actually driving a truck all my working>> hours. All to easy to fall asleep.
If I feel tired I just stop somewhere and go back to bed, and that's not > something everyone can do at work.

So this rushing fresh fruit and vegetables to the consumer that Conor goes
on about is just so much twaddle? ;-)­

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Adrian 1 May 2005 22:30:20 permanent link ]
 Conor (conor.turton@gmail­.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :
Its quite possible to do a 12 hour shift and only a couple of hours of> that count as working time under the WTD.

So lemme get this straight - you're employed to drive, for hourly pay, but
for most of a shift you're sat around *not* actually working, but still
being paid?

Cool.
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Knight Of The Road 1 May 2005 22:44:05 permanent link ]
 

"Adrian" <toomany2cvs@gmail.­com> wrote

So lemme get this straight - you're employed to drive, for hourly pay, but> for most of a shift you're sat around *not* actually working, but still> being paid?





If I get weekended in Spain, I'm paid two days at £80 each and two
nights-out at £24 tax-free each and all I do is sit on the beach getting
pissed.


--
Vince

Truck Driving In Russia- www.coventon.co.uk


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Adrian 1 May 2005 23:54:17 permanent link ]
 Knight Of The Road (russiatrucking@hot­mail.com) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :
So lemme get this straight - you're employed to drive, for hourly>> pay, but for most of a shift you're sat around *not* actually working, >> but still being paid?
If I get weekended in Spain, I'm paid two days at £80 each and two > nights-out at £24 tax-free each and all I do is sit on the beach> getting pissed.

Where do I sign up?

And, of course, we're all so sympathetic towards all you poor picked-on
truckers, who are somehow simultaneously societal lepers, yet get paid to
be on holiday on top of your freedom to pick and choose jobs where the boss
practically throws money at you. <grin, Conor, grin>
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Knight Of The Road 2 May 2005 00:35:10 permanent link ]
 

"Adrian" <toomany2cvs@gmail.­com> wrote


Where do I sign up?





Sorry, but before you can drive an articulated lorry, you have to pass the
LGV C+E driving test, and I'm afraid you just wouldn't be up to it.



--
Vince

Truck Driving In Russia- www.coventon.co.uk


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Knight Of The Road 2 May 2005 12:28:22 permanent link ]
 


"AstraVanMan" <Peter@SwerveForesk­inWeb.com> wrote

I dunno, my brother's a quantity surveyor for a brickwork company and> manages to royally screw a lot of construction companies out of 5 or 6> figure sums of money regularly due to time wasted on site due to other> things not being completed (jobs out of their control - i.e. the> responsibility of other subcontractors), which can often be due to major> materials (such as concrete lintels) not being there.






All very true, but I generally deliver to merchants (TP, Jewsons etc) where
they just go to stock. What I can't do on monday gets done on tuesday.

Whenever I have done fridge loads (I used to collect strawberries in Poland
sometimes, and fruit from Spain and Italy), the load has to get from point A
to point B in the minimum possible legal time, which means early starts or
late finishes and maximum hours, none of which really appeals to me.


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Vince

Truck Driving In Russia- www.coventon.co.uk


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Conor 6 May 2005 19:19:19 permanent link ]
 In article <4d643996fddave@dav­enoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News)
says...> In article <MPG.1cded171656143­1b989a3b@news.indivi­dual.net>,> Conor <conor.turton@gmail­.com> wrote:> > > Ah. So you're including rest periods?> > >
Yup. When referring to the working day in haulage, you refer to the > > duty time, i.e the time from when you start until you pull the chart.>
Ah. Right. I'm in the wrong industry then because my break, ie lunch,> isn't paid.>
In haulage, they tend to not pay for either 30 or 45 minutes a day
however you may be required to take more than one 45 minute break and
you would be paid for the second.

Its called DUTY time.>
Then that would apply to anyone's lunch break. Or others working split> shifts. So perhaps you're not so hard done by as you say? ;-)­>
Depends if you consider being at work up to 15 hours a day with an
average working week around 60 hours as reasonable.

Depends. Part timing at the moment but fulltime could be up to 84 hours.>
And what is the maximum you're actually allowed to be driving?>
56 hours in a week, 90 hours in a fortnight.

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Conor

"Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most." O.Osbourne.
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Conor 6 May 2005 19:21:50 permanent link ]
 In article <4d6455dd4ddave@dav­enoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News)
says...
So this rushing fresh fruit and vegetables to the consumer that Conor goes> on about is just so much twaddle? ;-)­>
Nope. It becomes a safety thing though. Sometimes I've parked up for an
hour when I've felt really knackered. When delivering to Asda/Tesco, it
has probably meant a late delivery fine.

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"Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most." O.Osbourne.
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Conor 6 May 2005 19:24:30 permanent link ]
 In article <Xns9649D4A9363D6ad­rianachapmanfreeis@2­04.153.244.170>,
Adrian says...
Where do I sign up?>
And, of course, we're all so sympathetic towards all you poor picked-on > truckers, who are somehow simultaneously societal lepers, yet get paid to > be on holiday on top of your freedom to pick and choose jobs where the boss > practically throws money at you. <grin, Conor, grin>>
Difference is I've been doing it a long time. My mate has just started
the job. He has to take whats offered and for money I wouldn't work
for.

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"Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most." O.Osbourne.
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Conor 6 May 2005 19:25:10 permanent link ]
 In article <d53ehu$ii6$1@nwrdm­z02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-i­nfra.bt.com>, Knight
Of The Road says...
Sorry, but before you can drive an articulated lorry, you have to pass the > LGV C+E driving test, and I'm afraid you just wouldn't be up to it.>
In addition, you and I can pick and choose because we've been doing it
for ages. He'll be landed with the crap we don't want for the first
couple of years.


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Conor

"Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most." O.Osbourne.
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